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In defense of italics... smaug Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 11:58:35 PM
If we're talking about the strength of prose, I think that we can thrown Dan Brown in the same pool as about 75-80% of fantasy and sci-fi authors.


Jordan at least had the good sense not to use italics whenever he wants to make sure you noticed that something interesting is happening OMG!!!!111 the Illuminati may be taking over *cough*


Gaston Leroux might be the worst abuser of that particular type style.

Le presbytère n'a rien perdu de son charme ni le jardin de son éclat!!!

And it's only slightly distracting. That being said, I have never read any Dan Brown and therefore cannot comment.
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Why is it that so many people hate Dan Brown? Tom - 14/09/2009 09:24:31 PM 2541 Views
His prose is bad. Very bad. Rebekah - 14/09/2009 09:28:28 PM 1411 Views
It's not any worse than Robert Jordan's prose. I'd say it's better, in fact. Tom - 14/09/2009 09:30:17 PM 1251 Views
Re: It's not any worse than Robert Jordan's prose. I'd say it's better, in fact. Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:32:44 PM 1399 Views
In defense of italics... smaug - 14/09/2009 11:58:35 PM 1335 Views
Re: In defense of italics... Camilla - 15/09/2009 08:02:56 AM 1333 Views
I just rechecked... smaug - 15/09/2009 11:17:23 AM 1252 Views
Thereby... Wibble - 15/09/2009 10:31:44 PM 1263 Views
I have a problem with comparing those italics. Rebekah - 15/09/2009 10:33:53 PM 1263 Views
Oh probably Wibble - 15/09/2009 10:40:15 PM 1273 Views
Hehe Rebekah - 15/09/2009 10:42:23 PM 1372 Views
In defense of nothing in particular... smaug - 15/09/2009 11:16:09 PM 1337 Views
Ah. Leroux did publish it as a serial in magazine first so that makes sense. *NM* Rebekah - 15/09/2009 11:19:40 PM 612 Views
Re: Thereby... Camilla - 16/09/2009 10:40:18 AM 1419 Views
I love that line, and nothing you say will change that. Legolas - 15/09/2009 11:15:29 PM 1263 Views
That line is great smaug - 15/09/2009 11:21:03 PM 1302 Views
Jordan didn't have the good sense TO FINISH ANY FUCKING PLOT THREAD Tom - 15/09/2009 04:46:06 AM 1257 Views
Wow, the vehemence. Craig - 15/09/2009 05:55:38 AM 1322 Views
Riddle me this, Batman - if he weren't dying, would he have even done that? *NM* Tom - 15/09/2009 01:53:57 PM 714 Views
Yes. Werthead - 15/09/2009 03:38:34 PM 1254 Views
burn *NM* LadyLorraine - 15/09/2009 04:24:49 PM 592 Views
Relevant post as always Celia *NM* Walker_Boh - 15/09/2009 11:36:34 PM 664 Views
So you say... Tom - 16/09/2009 02:17:47 AM 1252 Views
No, he didn't. Werthead - 16/09/2009 04:44:31 AM 1326 Views
Re: Jordan didn't have the good sense TO FINISH ANY FUCKING PLOT THREAD Camilla - 15/09/2009 08:05:26 AM 1284 Views
His attitude to history isn't really any different from that of most writers Tom - 15/09/2009 01:54:55 PM 1272 Views
Except Camilla - 15/09/2009 04:56:23 PM 1263 Views
And ALSO except Tom - 17/09/2009 02:59:03 PM 1358 Views
Re: And ALSO except Camilla - 17/09/2009 05:27:40 PM 1265 Views
I vehemently disagree with this! Rebekah - 14/09/2009 09:33:05 PM 1544 Views
How many chapters of Aes Sedai dresses and horse names did we go through in his books? Tom - 15/09/2009 04:45:04 AM 1309 Views
I'd have a slow moving plot to fast moving nonsense any day. fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 05:36:20 AM 1372 Views
With Jordan, that movement was glacial Tom - 15/09/2009 01:58:08 PM 1247 Views
so...your problem with jordan is that you're impatient? LadyLorraine - 15/09/2009 04:26:07 PM 1207 Views
How many of us can say we're not antsy to know what happened? nossy - 15/09/2009 05:03:24 PM 1258 Views
So plot progression is all that matters? What about the other stuff I mentioned? *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 04:50:06 PM 612 Views
Jordan's characters are just as two-dimensional as Brown's Tom - 16/09/2009 02:17:19 AM 1224 Views
Bull... fionwe1987 - 16/09/2009 03:15:49 AM 1241 Views
No, I think you're just blinded by liking WoT Tom - 17/09/2009 03:00:28 PM 1225 Views
No, you seem to be blinded by disliking him, more like. Legolas - 17/09/2009 06:25:21 PM 1234 Views
It's not hyperbole. Tom - 17/09/2009 08:13:47 PM 1253 Views
Yes, it is, and you're really going to have to back your stance up with arguments. Legolas - 17/09/2009 09:21:56 PM 1290 Views
No it isn't, and I won't. I'm bored with this debate. *NM* Tom - 18/09/2009 02:57:00 PM 632 Views
Yeah like that's not the case with you and Dan Brown. fionwe1987 - 17/09/2009 06:56:37 PM 1285 Views
I don't think Dan Brown is a stellar writer. Tom - 17/09/2009 08:11:41 PM 1248 Views
Heh. It was "favourite" fantasy series not "best". Rebekah - 17/09/2009 08:19:02 PM 1214 Views
Then why defend him? fionwe1987 - 18/09/2009 12:14:35 AM 1212 Views
No Camilla - 18/09/2009 10:09:02 AM 1375 Views
Examples. Werthead - 17/09/2009 01:53:21 AM 1464 Views
LOL Rebekah - 17/09/2009 03:16:23 PM 1288 Views
Because he is shit? Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:38:59 PM 1523 Views
Camilla, you've read shit before and liked it. Tom - 15/09/2009 04:43:24 AM 1310 Views
Re: Camilla, you've read shit before and liked it. Camilla - 15/09/2009 08:04:18 AM 1243 Views
Yes, I was talking about the book. Tom - 15/09/2009 01:58:54 PM 1236 Views
Re: Yes, I was talking about the book. Camilla - 15/09/2009 04:56:53 PM 1184 Views
Also Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:41:25 PM 1287 Views
Hate is a strong word. PhotoJim - 14/09/2009 09:44:02 PM 1347 Views
Nicely put. *NM* Rebekah - 14/09/2009 09:46:03 PM 614 Views
*NM* Tashmere - 15/09/2009 04:16:35 AM 628 Views
He still didn't dick around with us as long as Robert Jordan did. *NM* Tom - 15/09/2009 04:41:01 AM 642 Views
I'm not disagreeing with you on that one. *NM* PhotoJim - 15/09/2009 12:12:52 PM 663 Views
Elitism and frustration he sells so much and better authors don't? Legolas - 14/09/2009 09:51:39 PM 1224 Views
I think so. Tom - 15/09/2009 04:40:20 AM 1312 Views
you thought meyers was entertaining???? LadyLorraine - 15/09/2009 04:28:48 PM 1223 Views
You thought it wasn't entertaining? Darth_Katie - 15/09/2009 07:42:06 PM 1204 Views
I would phrase that 'better' authors Wibble - 15/09/2009 10:29:54 PM 1220 Views
Okay, fair enough. Legolas - 15/09/2009 11:16:56 PM 1183 Views
Given that I know nothing about Dan Brown nossy - 14/09/2009 09:54:15 PM 1333 Views
Pfft! ~locks your reply~ Rebekah - 14/09/2009 10:00:23 PM 1251 Views
ooo, lock me baby! nossy - 14/09/2009 10:12:48 PM 1315 Views
A couple of the above points, and Suspension of Disbelief. Craig - 14/09/2009 10:23:26 PM 1313 Views
Good point about the "Ridiculous Things", that bugged me too. Legolas - 14/09/2009 10:35:32 PM 1365 Views
there is a difference between a book, which is a respectable medium, and a hollywood movie. jh - 14/09/2009 10:41:06 PM 1233 Views
There is really only a difference if you're looking for some higher learnin' nossy - 14/09/2009 10:52:39 PM 1308 Views
That statement makes no sense. *NM* jh - 14/09/2009 10:55:53 PM 526 Views
She must have been reading too much Dan Brown. Rebekah - 14/09/2009 10:58:51 PM 1219 Views
Yes it does nossy - 14/09/2009 11:00:41 PM 1202 Views
Only to the strangest of elitists. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/09/2009 12:49:53 AM 652 Views
Go read screenplays for fun, populist. *NM* jh - 15/09/2009 10:20:01 AM 658 Views
Ghavrel - 15/09/2009 06:25:26 PM 1224 Views
Oh, I am sorry. jh - 16/09/2009 11:11:07 AM 1132 Views
Well... Craig - 14/09/2009 11:16:00 PM 1204 Views
I accept your points, but also your final statement Tom - 15/09/2009 04:38:46 AM 1217 Views
More to the point then... people don't really need a good reason to hate something in particular. Craig - 15/09/2009 06:00:33 AM 1305 Views
You didn't even like him as Mugatu in Zoolander? *NM* Tom - 15/09/2009 01:47:57 PM 613 Views
Now, now. Craig - 15/09/2009 07:03:48 PM 1214 Views
Suspension of disbelief is a relative thing random thoughts - 15/09/2009 11:25:32 PM 1309 Views
Damn near everything is a relative thing. Craig - 16/09/2009 05:25:48 AM 1259 Views
I'm indifferent to him Larry - 15/09/2009 01:14:37 AM 1265 Views
If you're indifferent, you are apparently in a minority. Tom - 15/09/2009 04:36:28 AM 1228 Views
To put Brown's mediocrity in perspective, read Da Vinci and then Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco. *NM* RandAllThor - 15/09/2009 01:32:11 AM 638 Views
Eh, I enjoyed DaVinci better. You can all crucify me now. Craig - 15/09/2009 01:49:28 AM 1198 Views
Re: Eh, I enjoyed DaVinci better. You can all crucify me now. RandAllThor - 15/09/2009 01:54:17 AM 1333 Views
Re: Rose Craig - 15/09/2009 02:16:53 AM 1214 Views
As someone who appreciated Foucault's Pendulum I don't argue his mediocrity. Tom - 15/09/2009 04:30:31 AM 1112 Views
I agree with your last sentence strongly. Joker - 26/09/2009 08:18:42 PM 1461 Views
I don't hate him, and I've never read any of his books Brian - 15/09/2009 01:45:37 AM 1213 Views
He was over hyped to me. Tashmere - 15/09/2009 04:15:32 AM 1236 Views
Da Vinci, not "Da Vinchi". The latter would be pronounced like "Da Vinki" in English. *NM* Tom - 15/09/2009 04:32:40 AM 607 Views
I will fix it for for you. I just didn't care enough to look up the spelling on it. Tashmere - 15/09/2009 02:49:08 PM 1329 Views
I agree it was way overhyped. everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:12:39 AM 1165 Views
Heh, I actually had the opposite. Craig - 16/09/2009 05:26:55 AM 1250 Views
The thing I hate the most is actually the fans who suddenly "know" stuff.... Sophy - 15/09/2009 07:49:22 AM 1368 Views
Yes! *NM* Camilla - 15/09/2009 08:06:35 AM 606 Views
I try to avoid stupid people like that altogether Tom - 15/09/2009 01:49:53 PM 1162 Views
And move to a deserted island? Sophy - 15/09/2009 02:33:01 PM 1451 Views
Those people are everywhere, but you don't have to talk to them Tom - 17/09/2009 03:02:24 PM 1302 Views
Lol. I agree wholeheartedly. everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:17:51 AM 1310 Views
My take on why Dan Brown is so disliked. MightyYT - 15/09/2009 08:51:04 AM 1335 Views
As I've said before, I don't disagree that he's a mediocre writer Tom - 15/09/2009 01:52:23 PM 1230 Views
He 'true' book claims 5 million women were killed during the witch hunt AgentOrange - 15/09/2009 11:55:40 AM 1209 Views
I would hardly say I hate him Mark - 15/09/2009 02:33:13 PM 1268 Views
I think it's more the totally inexplicable nature of his success Werthead - 15/09/2009 03:48:28 PM 1362 Views
Eragon and Twilight indicate all that is evil to me in the world LadyLorraine - 15/09/2009 04:33:29 PM 1342 Views
I hardly think it's that inexplicable. Legolas - 15/09/2009 04:33:39 PM 1219 Views
Honestly, his works play on a very basic fact of human psychology., everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:23:56 AM 1338 Views
Misplaced superiority. Jacob - 15/09/2009 05:10:34 PM 1286 Views
Well, regarding goodkind... jh - 15/09/2009 05:23:34 PM 1275 Views
I couldn't say... Jacob - 15/09/2009 05:57:12 PM 1298 Views
well, you stuck with the poor quality books longer than me. *NM* jh - 16/09/2009 12:39:23 AM 610 Views
It's pure literary snobbery Wibble - 15/09/2009 11:08:44 PM 1306 Views
I agree with you 100%. Tom - 16/09/2009 02:20:11 AM 1169 Views
Very nice summary. everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:32:38 AM 1345 Views
That's more than a little unfair. Craig - 16/09/2009 05:29:59 AM 1233 Views
Dan Brown is a snob. Sophy - 16/09/2009 06:32:21 AM 1400 Views
Where does the rule come from that you can't read good books while travelling? It is nonsense! Camilla - 18/09/2009 10:16:56 AM 1457 Views
because all of the cool kids hate him random thoughts - 15/09/2009 11:17:29 PM 1107 Views
He has an enormous schwanzstucker. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/09/2009 01:18:37 AM 843 Views
I figured that'd set most guys against him. *NM* rebelaessedai - 16/09/2009 01:51:56 AM 634 Views
I don't get it either. everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:01:04 AM 1203 Views
I think you'll appreciate this Tom Geoff - 16/09/2009 03:03:24 PM 1455 Views
Hmm. The sneerathon seems like a good idea. jh - 16/09/2009 03:52:15 PM 1229 Views
That was lovely, thank you! Tom - 17/09/2009 03:04:46 PM 1214 Views
My pleasure Geoff - 17/09/2009 03:58:31 PM 1356 Views
I don't. I think he's just average, though occasionally fun for an easy read/skim *NM* IndigoAjah - 17/09/2009 12:39:05 AM 640 Views
Plenty of them probably don't. They just don't have the guts to say what they truly think. *NM* Vodalus - 17/09/2009 10:10:39 PM 591 Views
And yet there's still no "Why do so many people hate Faile?" post on the WoT board... *NM* TaskmasterJack - 18/09/2009 04:05:26 PM 847 Views
How do you know? *NM* jh - 18/09/2009 04:57:15 PM 629 Views
I pop in there on occasion. TaskmasterJack - 18/09/2009 05:09:59 PM 1589 Views
Oh, it's a job. jh - 18/09/2009 07:35:32 PM 1352 Views
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