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That's a very interesting article. Though it does sound like he'd never be happy. Legolas Send a noteboard - 18/11/2010 08:06:09 PM
Which makes sense, I guess, there's never such a thing as a perfect unassailable translation - at least not of a work of any complexity. Still, he sounds a bit like an armchair critic.

I liked the point about being unsure what is best, having a good writer for a translator or a less good one. Though it seems like the conundrum only exists because of an insufficiently defined concept of what a "good writer" is, and if one asks the more obvious question of whether you prefer a good translator or a less good one, the answer is in fact easy. And then of course some good writers are bad translators, and the other way around.

I rather doubt if this Herbert's translation was genuinely so much better than the later ones. It's possible, of course, but I don't think one should necessarily interpret Flaubert's reaction that way. It's not as if he could compare it to anything, and no doubt part of the reason why he insisted on Herbert's translation is that she could easily consult him, or he could tell her to change things. Those are advantages alright, but no doubt the others had other advantages. I guess he does say as much at the end, though, that Herbert's translation would merely show us a new way of falling short.
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Julian Barnes on translation - 18/11/2010 05:49:37 PM 1065 Views
That's a very interesting article. Though it does sound like he'd never be happy. - 18/11/2010 08:06:09 PM 726 Views
That was a long article. - 19/11/2010 07:05:12 PM 641 Views
Re: That was a long article. - 19/11/2010 09:59:24 PM 634 Views
Yeah, I think English translations on average are better than those in smaller languages. - 19/11/2010 10:16:44 PM 756 Views
Wow - 20/11/2010 10:45:08 AM 797 Views
Traddutore, traditore - 20/11/2010 12:36:10 PM 741 Views
On balance, I'm glad I read the Steegmuller translation when I read the novel. - 20/11/2010 05:14:42 PM 584 Views
Vas-tu faire s’enculée, Camille! - 20/11/2010 05:26:08 PM 664 Views
If you don't mind a few grammatical corrections of your swearing... - 20/11/2010 05:42:57 PM 678 Views
It was a quick and dirty rendering - 20/11/2010 05:53:13 PM 606 Views
Apparently so, with the use of "enculer" - 20/11/2010 07:12:24 PM 630 Views
Actually, yes, it is The Temptation of St. Anthony - 20/11/2010 08:43:08 PM 700 Views
And I didn't order from France. It's a US-based company that I bought it from. *NM* - 20/11/2010 05:54:55 PM 263 Views
Oh, that'd cut down on delivery costs a fair bit, then. *NM* - 20/11/2010 06:01:46 PM 269 Views
Yes, it did. - 20/11/2010 08:45:13 PM 598 Views
I love Pleiade editions - 21/11/2010 12:14:14 AM 617 Views
How tall are they, out of curiosity? - 21/11/2010 12:50:57 AM 744 Views
Not tall - 21/11/2010 09:59:55 AM 630 Views
I got my books today. - 23/11/2010 05:38:20 AM 838 Views
Re: I got my books today. - 23/11/2010 10:33:10 AM 652 Views
Regardless, if Pleiade is the best France has to offer, their book industry is awful. - 23/11/2010 07:17:13 PM 901 Views
Let me guess... - 23/11/2010 07:46:41 PM 604 Views
No. I don't think he's been released in a Pleiade edition. - 23/11/2010 07:49:05 PM 629 Views
Re: Oh Authorial intent. - 21/11/2010 02:07:27 AM 736 Views
Like hell it's about authorial intent. - 21/11/2010 05:40:22 AM 658 Views
Re: I didn't even read it, I guessed based on the author's initials. - 21/11/2010 01:37:40 PM 857 Views
So I take it you missed the whole part about Nabokov's translation of Eugene Onegin. - 21/11/2010 03:28:14 PM 606 Views
Re: Yes, I missed all of that. Such a conclusion clearly follows from my previous response. *NM* - 21/11/2010 03:57:16 PM 358 Views
Actually it does. Your responses are just cheap tricks, not discussions. *NM* - 21/11/2010 04:44:21 PM 269 Views
Re: Cheap tricks? - 21/11/2010 10:45:39 PM 712 Views
Barnes' article has little to do with authorial intent - 21/11/2010 11:37:25 PM 641 Views
Why didn't you translate je ne sais quoi? - 21/11/2010 11:46:23 PM 695 Views
Because I didn't feel like it? - 22/11/2010 01:14:31 AM 665 Views
Well, I think you started the snarky replies. - 21/11/2010 11:42:33 PM 617 Views

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