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You keep coming back to this argument, and it keeps being a stupid one. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 22/04/2011 10:33:14 PM
Just because steampunk is an evolution of cyberpunk doesn't mean it's a subset of it. If you insist on holding that risible logic, then congratulations: Rock is now just a subset of Jazz, which is a strange kind of military march, and so on... Eventually you'll have rock being a specific subsidiary of plainchant. You keep insisting on viewing steampunk as this offshoot of cyberpunk (even though you have offered no proof beyond etymology), as though cyberpunk somehow is a completely original genre, descending whole and pure into the minds of authors like Gibson.

Instead of attempting to shove literary trends into bizarre and artificial hierarchies, maybe you should concern yourself with observing the evolution of the various forms which comprise them.
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
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The Sprawl Trilogy and Thoughts Thereof (or What Ever Happened to Cyberpunk?) - 19/04/2011 10:50:26 PM 2580 Views
Why I prefer cyberpunk in near future settings to (most) of the steampunk sub-genre. - 19/04/2011 10:55:57 PM 1415 Views
The difference is that steampunk, by and large, is very aware of its implausibility. - 20/04/2011 01:32:57 AM 975 Views
You keep giving steampunk backhanded compliments like that and you'll start to confuse me. - 20/04/2011 02:12:53 AM 1038 Views
Being entertaining is not a backhanded compliment. - 20/04/2011 02:34:15 AM 1101 Views
the ability to wear a costume at a convention is hardly a ringing endorsement of a genre - 22/04/2011 01:49:40 AM 1132 Views
Your impression is close to being my comments verbatim. - 22/04/2011 02:50:18 AM 1108 Views
I tried to avoid that word, but I'll leave comparisons there and discuss pure cyberpunk henceforth. - 22/04/2011 03:58:29 PM 1139 Views
You keep coming back to this argument, and it keeps being a stupid one. - 22/04/2011 10:33:14 PM 1048 Views
IMO, cyberpunk has become somewhat dated. - 20/04/2011 04:46:55 AM 1216 Views
Actually, I can live with that, though terms like "dated" invite trouble. - 20/04/2011 07:01:50 AM 1061 Views
Re: Actually, I can live with that, though terms like "dated" invite trouble. - 22/04/2011 04:12:20 AM 1130 Views
No, I took your point. - 22/04/2011 03:43:18 PM 1222 Views
so...is bladerunner cyberpunk - 20/04/2011 09:48:15 PM 914 Views
It's usually seen as the archetypal cyberpunk film, yeah. - 21/04/2011 10:50:44 AM 1252 Views
so cyber is the time and punk is the attitude? - 21/04/2011 12:57:01 PM 1041 Views
I don't think the portmanteau is that precisely defined. - 21/04/2011 08:31:34 PM 1160 Views
I am amazed that no one has referenced this TVTropes page yet... - 23/04/2011 07:45:14 PM 1425 Views
Playing with fire; I should've known TVTropes would exhaustively cover the derivatives. - 24/04/2011 03:11:56 AM 1342 Views
It's always hard to pigeonhole things, especially as they become more specific - 24/04/2011 06:27:28 PM 1002 Views
Precisely. - 26/04/2011 03:04:54 AM 1354 Views
The "dated" idea is interesting. - 23/04/2011 08:08:26 PM 1073 Views
PS the Takeshi Kovacs books are great, and you should all go read them *NM* - 23/04/2011 08:09:54 PM 457 Views
I'll add it to the list then, thanks. *MN* - 24/04/2011 03:19:09 AM 938 Views

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