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True Larry Send a noteboard - 12/12/2011 06:29:10 PM
Some knee-jerk reactions that don't really refute what we're saying, a few ad hominems, some interesting input from people who aren't dismissing us out of hand...the same as when I posted my "In Defense of Other Fiction" but with far less outcry since it's a repeat discussion on a topic we've commented on multiple times.


That plus some aren't Tolkienistas here, which might have diluted the outcry. Sad part is whether we be nice or blunt about urging others to read more than just more of the same, there's little chance of that happening here on a large scale.
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Aren't the Tolkien comparisons getting a little...old? Dark Knight - 09/12/2011 09:51:39 PM 2766 Views
The comparison bothers me, but not because Tolkien isn't relevant. lord-of-shadow - 09/12/2011 10:05:22 PM 1637 Views
I agree with this. Nate - 09/12/2011 10:21:34 PM 1661 Views
Re: I agree with this. DomA - 10/12/2011 07:09:33 PM 1609 Views
Exactly *NM* ironclad - 12/12/2011 12:09:19 PM 805 Views
Only when shit works are being compared to him Larry - 09/12/2011 10:22:26 PM 1541 Views
Larry, Macharius - 10/12/2011 01:13:18 AM 1556 Views
Snide dismissal that will be passed off as for his own entertainment. Ghavrel - 10/12/2011 04:55:43 AM 1458 Views
We get a lot of that around here. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 10/12/2011 05:18:01 AM 600 Views
makes me wonder... LadyLorraine - 10/12/2011 04:37:33 PM 1445 Views
Re: makes me wonder... James - 11/12/2011 03:03:15 AM 1424 Views
Well-deserved condescension. Tom - 11/12/2011 03:54:27 AM 1587 Views
You're sure about that? A Deathwatch Guard - 11/12/2011 04:20:26 AM 1814 Views
Re: You're sure about that? James - 11/12/2011 05:25:08 AM 1540 Views
Re: You're sure about that? A Deathwatch Guard - 11/12/2011 06:03:02 AM 1408 Views
i think you shouldn't judge a whole world's school programs on your school LadyLorraine - 11/12/2011 06:42:30 AM 1448 Views
Yeah, I'm limited in my knowledge, lol A Deathwatch Guard - 11/12/2011 08:03:26 AM 1466 Views
My school was...not great. James - 11/12/2011 04:02:36 PM 1491 Views
I'm 24. James - 11/12/2011 03:49:06 PM 1415 Views
If you're arguing that children should be able to read genre fiction, fine. Tom - 11/12/2011 08:52:27 PM 1331 Views
Well, I suppose it depends on the type of genre being read Larry - 11/12/2011 09:36:16 PM 1581 Views
How often do you hear the challenging writers mentioned at this site? Tom - 12/12/2011 02:03:05 PM 1308 Views
Only when you, me, and a couple others write reviews Larry - 12/12/2011 04:21:14 PM 1698 Views
Oh, it was the same as it always is Tom - 12/12/2011 05:23:56 PM 1419 Views
True Larry - 12/12/2011 06:29:10 PM 1479 Views
One note nossy - 13/12/2011 12:17:48 AM 1505 Views
Perhaps Larry - 13/12/2011 12:49:34 AM 1436 Views
*Sighs* Such is the plight of those shining few intelects... Narg - 23/12/2011 01:15:47 AM 1496 Views
Much of the actual "Classics", that is, Greek and Latin originals, kids would eat up. Dan - 12/12/2011 03:13:03 AM 1320 Views
Try teaching Apuleius in schools... *NM* Tom - 12/12/2011 04:12:49 AM 724 Views
Plato is exciting, brutal and scandalous? Legolas - 12/12/2011 09:59:13 PM 1381 Views
You're upfront and honest about it; he isn't. The difference matters to me. *NM* Ghavrel - 11/12/2011 05:18:42 AM 771 Views
Uhh...uh... Larry - 11/12/2011 05:34:23 AM 1417 Views
this is a bit off topic, but out of curiousity... LadyLorraine - 11/12/2011 06:28:35 AM 1532 Views
I've discussed this dozens of times at this site. Perhaps you've missed all of the posts. Tom - 11/12/2011 08:57:44 PM 1472 Views
mk I'll go look. I probably did miss it (or at least don't remember it!) LadyLorraine - 11/12/2011 09:08:02 PM 1436 Views
I have a successful career that was inspired by the video games I played as a child. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 11/12/2011 05:52:21 PM 805 Views
Now let's get all the people who just pissed their lives away with video games and see the %. Tom - 11/12/2011 08:58:42 PM 1567 Views
The majority of players neither waste their lives nor make a career out of it. lord-of-shadow - 11/12/2011 11:29:29 PM 1464 Views
Yeah, sorry, I don't think you could say that with a straight face in real life. *NM* Tom - 12/12/2011 04:13:52 AM 734 Views
Then you have a closed mind on the subject. Ironic, considering your stance on edification. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 12/12/2011 05:47:50 AM 674 Views
No, just with respect to you. *NM* Tom - 12/12/2011 02:00:15 PM 724 Views
Tom, you pulled the "Say that to my face!" line. You lost the right to talk about respect. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 12/12/2011 03:20:15 PM 774 Views
Once again, I really don't care what you think. *NM* Tom - 12/12/2011 03:37:40 PM 730 Views
Did I imply that you did? My apologies. I'd hate to insinuate that you'd stoop that low. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 12/12/2011 04:13:25 PM 694 Views
As well read as you seem to be, you think you'd be smart enough... MonCul - 11/12/2011 06:20:06 PM 1413 Views
I thought I have made it clear that I don't care if people don't like me here. Tom - 11/12/2011 08:44:58 PM 1331 Views
Re: I thought I have made it clear that I don't care if people don't like me here. Macharius - 12/12/2011 04:04:37 PM 1383 Views
That statement has just confused me. Tom - 12/12/2011 04:06:53 PM 1348 Views
Re: That statement has just confused me. Macharius - 12/12/2011 04:14:27 PM 1353 Views
I never learned Hittite. I had a book on pre-order for a long time but never ended up getting it. Tom - 12/12/2011 05:41:03 PM 1303 Views
What you have made clear, I think, is the fact that you deal in generalizations and stereotypes. MonCul - 12/12/2011 10:12:12 PM 1454 Views
There's an unintentional irony in what you say, alas Larry - 13/12/2011 12:44:26 AM 1361 Views
Tom, Dick, or Larry...you may use your true first name, but you're still an anonymous entity to most MonCul - 13/12/2011 04:49:35 AM 1580 Views
With such comeback skills, you must have ruled the playgrounds as a kid, no? Larry - 13/12/2011 05:21:42 AM 1584 Views
I thought it was a pretty good comeback. MonCul - 13/12/2011 12:37:15 PM 1533 Views
Think again, Skippy Larry - 13/12/2011 01:34:41 PM 1399 Views
There are no special snowflakes, are there? Larry - 11/12/2011 09:39:21 PM 1337 Views
There are many way of widening one's horizons and broadening one's mind. Legolas - 11/12/2011 10:08:24 PM 1095 Views
I said as much in my comment Larry - 11/12/2011 10:20:03 PM 1369 Views
What I don't like- rebelaessedai - 12/12/2011 04:28:55 AM 1449 Views
Why don't you name something, then? Tom - 12/12/2011 04:40:29 AM 1391 Views
Sure. rebelaessedai - 13/12/2011 07:30:56 AM 1228 Views
Mentioning Ender's Game pretty much shot your argument in the foot. Tom - 13/12/2011 02:02:59 PM 1341 Views
You dismiss the entire video game medium because many games lack value. lord-of-shadow - 13/12/2011 03:59:11 PM 1480 Views
You're like the McDonald's paid advocate trying to say Big Macs are actually healthy. Tom - 13/12/2011 05:46:37 PM 1289 Views
McDonalds food is inherently unhealthy. lord-of-shadow - 13/12/2011 06:02:18 PM 1425 Views
For the sake of argument ... Nate - 13/12/2011 04:09:51 PM 1333 Views
Stephenson is not literature, that's for damn sure. Tom - 13/12/2011 05:49:24 PM 1281 Views
Thank you, The Voice of Lews Therin. *NM* Vivien - 16/12/2011 05:14:42 AM 789 Views
I'll leave it up to others to define as they wish against their self-conceptions of me Larry - 10/12/2011 10:52:54 AM 1438 Views
that's alright. I really have no desire to stroke your twit-ego. *NM* LadyLorraine - 10/12/2011 04:36:56 PM 579 Views
Considering the firestorm I appear to have touched off, that may be best. Macharius - 12/12/2011 12:57:49 PM 1437 Views
I know, John Larry - 12/12/2011 04:27:04 PM 1326 Views
Re: I know, John Macharius - 12/12/2011 05:06:26 PM 1378 Views
As I've said in the past, I'd be scared if anyone agreed with me anywhere approaching 100% Larry - 12/12/2011 06:33:52 PM 1322 Views
Re: As I've said in the past, I'd be scared if anyone agreed with me anywhere approaching 100% Macharius - 12/12/2011 07:13:37 PM 1400 Views
Same guy Larry - 12/12/2011 07:26:13 PM 1428 Views
Ha! Excellent point. *NM* Tom - 11/12/2011 03:44:52 AM 711 Views
Blurbs are not generally very original in their comparisons - would kind of defeat their purpose. Legolas - 09/12/2011 10:42:17 PM 1421 Views
I have to agree. ? - 09/12/2011 10:54:06 PM 1443 Views
They're there for marketing A Deathwatch Guard - 10/12/2011 12:20:17 AM 1410 Views
Most of those comparisons are like that anyway DomA - 10/12/2011 05:32:45 PM 1543 Views
Maybe if so much of the genre weren't crap derivative works it wouldn't be so common. *NM* Tom - 11/12/2011 03:44:24 AM 702 Views
To be fair, a lot of it isn't. rebelaessedai - 11/12/2011 04:06:07 AM 1358 Views
I suspect that if it really isn't derivative it's not being compared to Tolkien in the first place. Tom - 11/12/2011 04:18:57 AM 1314 Views
That's true. rebelaessedai - 11/12/2011 11:08:01 AM 1304 Views
But see, that's where things start to get referred back to Tolkien. Tom - 12/12/2011 04:30:12 AM 1454 Views
Maybe they mean something else by using his name. Cannoli - 11/12/2011 03:50:15 AM 1376 Views
When they don't work, yes. nossy - 11/12/2011 03:18:44 PM 1374 Views
The Tolkien fanaticism gets old. And yes, for me it is unreadable. everynametaken - 11/12/2011 11:37:53 PM 1368 Views
No, because the movies are very contemporary and relevant, thus he will remain so for quite a while. Dan - 12/12/2011 03:14:53 AM 1426 Views
Disagree all you want, but LotR is still the touchstone when it comes to works of fantasy. Vodalus - 12/12/2011 03:48:20 AM 1334 Views
Yes *NM* Hieshyn - 22/12/2011 07:08:38 PM 825 Views
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