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Taking the Divine Comedy off the curriculum would be like taking Shakespeare out in the UK. Tom Send a noteboard - 21/03/2012 10:48:15 PM
Dante isn't just a "medieval classic" and "monument of Italian culture" - it is probably THE ONLY Italian work that is regularly studied worldwide and perhaps one of the greatest works of world literature ever produced in any language. Taking Dante off the curriculum would be like removing Shakespeare in English-speaking countries, or Tolstoy from Russia, or Flaubert from France.

Furthermore, the most interesting thing is that both you and Legolas talk about racism and/or xenophobia, but there really isn't much (IF ANY) of that in The Divine Comedy. There is a strong condemnation of Islam, but there's certainly nothing wrong with a Christian stating a traditional Christian position that non-believers would end up in Hell. Many Christians hold that opinion even today, and it's a valid position to take. It is improper to use that as a basis to attack people or their places of worship, or treat them as second-class citizens, but lots of people are able to treat others decently even if they think they're going to Hell.

With respect to Jews, there is really no anti-Semitism that I can see in the entirety of the Divine Comedy. Three figures are punished - Caiaphas, Annas and Judas, all of which had a personal role in condemning Christ to death. It's really insignificant when we look at the hundreds of Italian figures from politics and social life in Dante's day and the centuries preceding.

With respect to homosexuals, as I have mentioned before, even though they are being punished in accordance with Church teachings, many scholars have noted that there is a strong sympathy on the part of Dante for the homosexuals that comes across in his description of that portion of Hell. Also, once again, many Christians still believe that homosexual acts are a grave sin and that those who engage in them are going to Hell.

Fundamentally, tolerance merely means that we do not persecute others. It doesn't require us to accept as valid all aspects of other peoples' lives. In other words, nothing in the Divine Comedy with respect to any of these groups is out of touch with modern values at least for a significant number of people.

The ultimate problem that I have with this group is not that I share most of the opinions (I think Muslims are wrong and Islam is a false religion, but I do not think they are going to Hell, and I don't think gays are going to Hell either), but because they are using the Divine Comedy to attack anything Christian, and essentially they are attacking a world classic due to its subject matter. As others have pointed out, are we next going to attack the Iliad for its portrayal of pagan gods or its violence?
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

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Divine Comedy is "offensive and discriminatory", says Italian NGO - 20/03/2012 07:25:08 PM 1284 Views
Duh? - 20/03/2012 07:38:41 PM 741 Views
It does kind of feel like we should know more about how it's taught in Italian schools. - 20/03/2012 07:50:36 PM 676 Views
The most ignorant statement of the day. - 21/03/2012 04:48:39 PM 1099 Views
Re: The most ignorant statement of the day. - 21/03/2012 07:42:54 PM 698 Views
Isn't the fundamental basis of Christanity mutually exclusive to Judaism and Islam? - 20/03/2012 08:33:51 PM 661 Views
That's a really good point that I hadn't considered. I agree. *NM* - 22/03/2012 09:05:00 AM 299 Views
Excellent point. - 22/03/2012 11:44:36 PM 1312 Views
I don't see why that would be the case - 23/03/2012 01:44:49 AM 723 Views
Just because someone is in Hell doesn't mean you should discriminate against them - 20/03/2012 08:23:22 PM 804 Views
Not having read any Dante is kind of hurting my ability to reply to that. - 20/03/2012 10:08:52 PM 1035 Views
Odd, considering you linked the "offending passages" - 20/03/2012 11:54:34 PM 712 Views
Yes, well, I was semi-serious with the "pretending to understand Italian". - 21/03/2012 07:58:35 PM 690 Views
I rather agree with you - 21/03/2012 10:09:01 PM 860 Views
Taking the Divine Comedy off the curriculum would be like taking Shakespeare out in the UK. - 21/03/2012 10:48:15 PM 651 Views
The last part of Hell is Giudecca because of Judas. - 21/03/2012 10:30:36 PM 773 Views
And you don't see what's offensive about that? - 21/03/2012 11:11:16 PM 664 Views
It was only a matter of time. I wonder, when will it end? - 20/03/2012 08:42:42 PM 1027 Views
I saw that. Seems a little misguided - 21/03/2012 07:04:06 AM 678 Views
That's the understatement of the year. - 21/03/2012 01:23:14 PM 675 Views
I think that sometimes people take "politicly correct" tooooo far... *NM* - 21/03/2012 08:20:31 AM 394 Views
Dante was also anit-italian by there logic. - 21/03/2012 04:53:50 PM 747 Views
It is the nature of comedy to be offensive. - 21/03/2012 08:42:09 PM 929 Views
Let me sum up my opinion on this as succinctly and clearly as I can: - 21/03/2012 11:50:37 PM 656 Views

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