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Remember what I studied for my grad degree Larry Send a noteboard - 06/12/2009 04:10:08 PM
which appears to be happening here.


I view mimetic fiction, speculative fiction, religious tracts, Popsicle renderings of Madonna, etc. as being expressions of material culture. All of these divisions, arbitrary as they often are, are just as much of a list making as were the 72 parts of the divine language from the medieval period (itself an arbitrary thing ultimately).

As for the others that made this list, it originally started as being a fuzzy cloud of sorts, linking together thematic representations as much as anything else.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Since people are weighing in on that best fantasy list I posted, how many on this list have ya read? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:22:40 AM 2418 Views
A lot of those books aren't fantasy. Tom - 06/12/2009 05:34:18 AM 947 Views
Most of those depend upon how loosely one defines it Larry - 06/12/2009 06:41:50 AM 930 Views
Up next, fantasy fans attempt to co-opt Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 07:20:03 AM 343 Views
Actually, considering who put that list together, I'd at least look into their rationales Larry - 06/12/2009 07:42:11 AM 854 Views
Mmm... there's been a pronounced tendency among spec ficcers, from what I've seen, Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 09:09:26 AM 1113 Views
I agree Camilla - 06/12/2009 09:35:32 AM 846 Views
I'm a bit different than that Larry - 06/12/2009 09:20:09 PM 935 Views
Re: I'm a bit different than that Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:04:47 AM 964 Views
Then what should it be defined as? Larry - 07/12/2009 02:28:55 AM 1011 Views
What, didn't you major in Fixing Up Confusions and other Issues? Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:49:30 AM 706 Views
I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes Larry - 07/12/2009 02:50:35 AM 830 Views
You majored in being a pain in the butt is what you majored in. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:52:00 AM 876 Views
No, that was my second minor Larry - 07/12/2009 02:54:53 AM 769 Views
In that case, I trust my definition more than theirs. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 03:05:32 AM 851 Views
Re: I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes The_Last_Gunslinger - 08/12/2009 10:59:03 PM 883 Views
Not really Larry - 08/12/2009 11:19:46 PM 1245 Views
Fantasy has no easy definition. Werthead - 07/12/2009 02:46:33 AM 902 Views
That's true. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:50:37 AM 887 Views
But the Song of Soloman is certainly akin to that *NM* Larry - 07/12/2009 02:51:21 AM 309 Views
No, that's just porn. *NM* Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:52:24 AM 407 Views
If you redefine fatasy as fiction, the category loses its value Camilla - 06/12/2009 12:33:03 PM 884 Views
Remember what I studied for my grad degree Larry - 06/12/2009 04:10:08 PM 910 Views
Re: Remember what I studied for my grad degree Camilla - 06/12/2009 04:33:58 PM 933 Views
Really? Larry - 06/12/2009 09:22:21 PM 1041 Views
Re: Really? Camilla - 06/12/2009 10:49:36 PM 1038 Views
Literature does not exist in a vacuum Larry - 06/12/2009 10:53:58 PM 679 Views
Obviously I know that Camilla - 06/12/2009 11:30:55 PM 855 Views
But it is a material artifact of a culture Larry - 07/12/2009 12:47:45 AM 756 Views
But that is not all it is. Camilla - 07/12/2009 08:16:32 AM 964 Views
Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. Werthead - 06/12/2009 04:32:26 PM 870 Views
Re: Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. Camilla - 06/12/2009 05:01:55 PM 782 Views
Several dozen contributed to the suggestion list Larry - 06/12/2009 09:23:21 PM 714 Views
I've read 34. Legolas - 06/12/2009 10:53:38 AM 747 Views
Well, when individual preferences affect listings, such things happen, I guess Larry - 06/12/2009 09:24:39 PM 761 Views
78 that I have finished, but that is really not the point. Camilla - 06/12/2009 11:55:16 AM 898 Views
Definitions of "fantasy" vary considerably Larry - 06/12/2009 09:25:35 PM 845 Views
According to the one you just applied, my master's thesis was one... Camilla - 06/12/2009 10:47:25 PM 761 Views
It's just a state of mind, I suppose Larry - 07/12/2009 12:50:22 AM 866 Views
Re: It's just a state of mind, I suppose Camilla - 07/12/2009 08:17:09 AM 890 Views
I've read 28. Linda - 06/12/2009 03:42:40 PM 965 Views
89... but in general, that is many by the same author. jh - 06/12/2009 06:17:06 PM 745 Views
46. This is an idiotic list. A Confederacy of Dunces just IS NOT fantasy. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 08:34:07 PM 984 Views
You say that, based on having read maybe 2% of the list? Larry - 06/12/2009 09:27:32 PM 673 Views
Jane Eyre? Napoleon62 - 07/12/2009 12:00:36 AM 826 Views
It plays upon the Gothic novel precepts Larry - 07/12/2009 12:51:31 AM 706 Views
Larry...come on...if it's Fantasy I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you to buy Tom - 07/12/2009 04:17:38 AM 872 Views
Devise a better? Larry - 07/12/2009 04:34:46 AM 797 Views
It would be much shorter Tom - 07/12/2009 02:20:05 PM 1064 Views
It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed Larry - 08/12/2009 11:26:35 PM 801 Views
Argh. Your quoting skills need work. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/12/2009 08:58:15 AM 418 Views
You seem to be misunderstanding Tom's post. Legolas - 09/12/2009 10:57:08 AM 810 Views
No,I was just just commenting on my likes/dislikes of that list Larry - 09/12/2009 01:21:45 PM 954 Views
I think you are misunderstanding again... jh - 09/12/2009 01:46:49 PM 929 Views
Yes. What Jonte said. *NM* Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:41:41 PM 444 Views
Oh,that Larry - 09/12/2009 06:07:11 PM 1004 Views
Re: It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed Camilla - 21/12/2009 09:35:11 AM 1215 Views
I read it very recently. He masturbates to a dog. Fetishes != fantasy. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 01:58:57 AM 729 Views
Like I said, it's been years for me Larry - 07/12/2009 02:30:58 AM 925 Views
No worries. That one just got me a little testy. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:48:01 AM 822 Views
96... but so many books are missing that i can think of... i mean, really! temeraire - 07/12/2009 02:07:18 AM 792 Views
It's an interesting experiment of a list, miki, and I think it's little more than that Larry - 07/12/2009 02:29:56 AM 715 Views
I've read about 90 of them ranagrande - 18/12/2009 03:37:49 PM 1130 Views
It would be a more interesting list if it contained more books that fantasy fans would want to read random thoughts - 30/12/2009 06:35:18 PM 942 Views
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