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Remember what I studied for my grad degree Larry Send a noteboard - 06/12/2009 04:10:08 PM
which appears to be happening here.


I view mimetic fiction, speculative fiction, religious tracts, Popsicle renderings of Madonna, etc. as being expressions of material culture. All of these divisions, arbitrary as they often are, are just as much of a list making as were the 72 parts of the divine language from the medieval period (itself an arbitrary thing ultimately).

As for the others that made this list, it originally started as being a fuzzy cloud of sorts, linking together thematic representations as much as anything else.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Since people are weighing in on that best fantasy list I posted, how many on this list have ya read? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:22:40 AM 2317 Views
A lot of those books aren't fantasy. Tom - 06/12/2009 05:34:18 AM 849 Views
Most of those depend upon how loosely one defines it Larry - 06/12/2009 06:41:50 AM 828 Views
Up next, fantasy fans attempt to co-opt Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 07:20:03 AM 265 Views
Actually, considering who put that list together, I'd at least look into their rationales Larry - 06/12/2009 07:42:11 AM 756 Views
Mmm... there's been a pronounced tendency among spec ficcers, from what I've seen, Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 09:09:26 AM 1015 Views
I agree Camilla - 06/12/2009 09:35:32 AM 750 Views
I'm a bit different than that Larry - 06/12/2009 09:20:09 PM 832 Views
Re: I'm a bit different than that Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:04:47 AM 859 Views
Then what should it be defined as? Larry - 07/12/2009 02:28:55 AM 902 Views
What, didn't you major in Fixing Up Confusions and other Issues? Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:49:30 AM 595 Views
I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes Larry - 07/12/2009 02:50:35 AM 721 Views
You majored in being a pain in the butt is what you majored in. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:52:00 AM 771 Views
No, that was my second minor Larry - 07/12/2009 02:54:53 AM 679 Views
In that case, I trust my definition more than theirs. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 03:05:32 AM 744 Views
Re: I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes The_Last_Gunslinger - 08/12/2009 10:59:03 PM 791 Views
Not really Larry - 08/12/2009 11:19:46 PM 1093 Views
Fantasy has no easy definition. Werthead - 07/12/2009 02:46:33 AM 805 Views
That's true. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:50:37 AM 774 Views
But the Song of Soloman is certainly akin to that *NM* Larry - 07/12/2009 02:51:21 AM 260 Views
No, that's just porn. *NM* Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:52:24 AM 357 Views
If you redefine fatasy as fiction, the category loses its value Camilla - 06/12/2009 12:33:03 PM 785 Views
Remember what I studied for my grad degree Larry - 06/12/2009 04:10:08 PM 804 Views
Re: Remember what I studied for my grad degree Camilla - 06/12/2009 04:33:58 PM 813 Views
Really? Larry - 06/12/2009 09:22:21 PM 927 Views
Re: Really? Camilla - 06/12/2009 10:49:36 PM 883 Views
Literature does not exist in a vacuum Larry - 06/12/2009 10:53:58 PM 588 Views
Obviously I know that Camilla - 06/12/2009 11:30:55 PM 752 Views
But it is a material artifact of a culture Larry - 07/12/2009 12:47:45 AM 650 Views
But that is not all it is. Camilla - 07/12/2009 08:16:32 AM 856 Views
Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. Werthead - 06/12/2009 04:32:26 PM 773 Views
Re: Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. Camilla - 06/12/2009 05:01:55 PM 683 Views
Several dozen contributed to the suggestion list Larry - 06/12/2009 09:23:21 PM 603 Views
I've read 34. Legolas - 06/12/2009 10:53:38 AM 650 Views
Well, when individual preferences affect listings, such things happen, I guess Larry - 06/12/2009 09:24:39 PM 649 Views
78 that I have finished, but that is really not the point. Camilla - 06/12/2009 11:55:16 AM 796 Views
Definitions of "fantasy" vary considerably Larry - 06/12/2009 09:25:35 PM 750 Views
According to the one you just applied, my master's thesis was one... Camilla - 06/12/2009 10:47:25 PM 659 Views
It's just a state of mind, I suppose Larry - 07/12/2009 12:50:22 AM 765 Views
Re: It's just a state of mind, I suppose Camilla - 07/12/2009 08:17:09 AM 793 Views
I've read 28. Linda - 06/12/2009 03:42:40 PM 856 Views
89... but in general, that is many by the same author. jh - 06/12/2009 06:17:06 PM 652 Views
46. This is an idiotic list. A Confederacy of Dunces just IS NOT fantasy. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 08:34:07 PM 880 Views
You say that, based on having read maybe 2% of the list? Larry - 06/12/2009 09:27:32 PM 581 Views
Jane Eyre? Napoleon62 - 07/12/2009 12:00:36 AM 728 Views
It plays upon the Gothic novel precepts Larry - 07/12/2009 12:51:31 AM 615 Views
Larry...come on...if it's Fantasy I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you to buy Tom - 07/12/2009 04:17:38 AM 784 Views
Devise a better? Larry - 07/12/2009 04:34:46 AM 699 Views
It would be much shorter Tom - 07/12/2009 02:20:05 PM 963 Views
It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed Larry - 08/12/2009 11:26:35 PM 704 Views
Argh. Your quoting skills need work. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/12/2009 08:58:15 AM 366 Views
You seem to be misunderstanding Tom's post. Legolas - 09/12/2009 10:57:08 AM 715 Views
No,I was just just commenting on my likes/dislikes of that list Larry - 09/12/2009 01:21:45 PM 849 Views
I think you are misunderstanding again... jh - 09/12/2009 01:46:49 PM 820 Views
Yes. What Jonte said. *NM* Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:41:41 PM 391 Views
Oh,that Larry - 09/12/2009 06:07:11 PM 898 Views
Re: It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed Camilla - 21/12/2009 09:35:11 AM 1110 Views
I read it very recently. He masturbates to a dog. Fetishes != fantasy. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 01:58:57 AM 628 Views
Like I said, it's been years for me Larry - 07/12/2009 02:30:58 AM 828 Views
No worries. That one just got me a little testy. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:48:01 AM 720 Views
96... but so many books are missing that i can think of... i mean, really! temeraire - 07/12/2009 02:07:18 AM 691 Views
It's an interesting experiment of a list, miki, and I think it's little more than that Larry - 07/12/2009 02:29:56 AM 614 Views
I've read about 90 of them ranagrande - 18/12/2009 03:37:49 PM 1007 Views
It would be a more interesting list if it contained more books that fantasy fans would want to read random thoughts - 30/12/2009 06:35:18 PM 852 Views
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