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Re: Remember what I studied for my grad degree Camilla Send a noteboard - 06/12/2009 04:33:58 PM
which appears to be happening here.

I view mimetic fiction, speculative fiction, religious tracts, Popsicle renderings of Madonna, etc. as being expressions of material culture. All of these divisions, arbitrary as they often are, are just as much of a list making as were the 72 parts of the divine language from the medieval period (itself an arbitrary thing ultimately).


That is a very limiting view of literature.

As for the others that made this list, it originally started as being a fuzzy cloud of sorts, linking together thematic representations as much as anything else.


Then it shouldn't be presented as a list of fantasy works.
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Since people are weighing in on that best fantasy list I posted, how many on this list have ya read? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:22:40 AM 2258 Views
A lot of those books aren't fantasy. Tom - 06/12/2009 05:34:18 AM 792 Views
Most of those depend upon how loosely one defines it Larry - 06/12/2009 06:41:50 AM 768 Views
Up next, fantasy fans attempt to co-opt Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 07:20:03 AM 243 Views
Actually, considering who put that list together, I'd at least look into their rationales Larry - 06/12/2009 07:42:11 AM 701 Views
Mmm... there's been a pronounced tendency among spec ficcers, from what I've seen, Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 09:09:26 AM 950 Views
I agree Camilla - 06/12/2009 09:35:32 AM 700 Views
I'm a bit different than that Larry - 06/12/2009 09:20:09 PM 758 Views
Re: I'm a bit different than that Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:04:47 AM 799 Views
Then what should it be defined as? Larry - 07/12/2009 02:28:55 AM 845 Views
What, didn't you major in Fixing Up Confusions and other Issues? Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:49:30 AM 537 Views
I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes Larry - 07/12/2009 02:50:35 AM 665 Views
You majored in being a pain in the butt is what you majored in. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:52:00 AM 699 Views
No, that was my second minor Larry - 07/12/2009 02:54:53 AM 626 Views
In that case, I trust my definition more than theirs. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 03:05:32 AM 683 Views
Re: I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes The_Last_Gunslinger - 08/12/2009 10:59:03 PM 739 Views
Not really Larry - 08/12/2009 11:19:46 PM 1018 Views
Fantasy has no easy definition. Werthead - 07/12/2009 02:46:33 AM 750 Views
That's true. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:50:37 AM 713 Views
But the Song of Soloman is certainly akin to that *NM* Larry - 07/12/2009 02:51:21 AM 235 Views
No, that's just porn. *NM* Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:52:24 AM 330 Views
If you redefine fatasy as fiction, the category loses its value Camilla - 06/12/2009 12:33:03 PM 730 Views
Remember what I studied for my grad degree Larry - 06/12/2009 04:10:08 PM 744 Views
Re: Remember what I studied for my grad degree Camilla - 06/12/2009 04:33:58 PM 758 Views
Really? Larry - 06/12/2009 09:22:21 PM 870 Views
Re: Really? Camilla - 06/12/2009 10:49:36 PM 825 Views
Literature does not exist in a vacuum Larry - 06/12/2009 10:53:58 PM 536 Views
Obviously I know that Camilla - 06/12/2009 11:30:55 PM 687 Views
But it is a material artifact of a culture Larry - 07/12/2009 12:47:45 AM 601 Views
But that is not all it is. Camilla - 07/12/2009 08:16:32 AM 798 Views
Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. Werthead - 06/12/2009 04:32:26 PM 714 Views
Re: Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. Camilla - 06/12/2009 05:01:55 PM 616 Views
Several dozen contributed to the suggestion list Larry - 06/12/2009 09:23:21 PM 536 Views
I've read 34. Legolas - 06/12/2009 10:53:38 AM 598 Views
Well, when individual preferences affect listings, such things happen, I guess Larry - 06/12/2009 09:24:39 PM 589 Views
78 that I have finished, but that is really not the point. Camilla - 06/12/2009 11:55:16 AM 744 Views
Definitions of "fantasy" vary considerably Larry - 06/12/2009 09:25:35 PM 692 Views
According to the one you just applied, my master's thesis was one... Camilla - 06/12/2009 10:47:25 PM 610 Views
It's just a state of mind, I suppose Larry - 07/12/2009 12:50:22 AM 707 Views
Re: It's just a state of mind, I suppose Camilla - 07/12/2009 08:17:09 AM 745 Views
I've read 28. Linda - 06/12/2009 03:42:40 PM 787 Views
89... but in general, that is many by the same author. jh - 06/12/2009 06:17:06 PM 595 Views
46. This is an idiotic list. A Confederacy of Dunces just IS NOT fantasy. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 08:34:07 PM 826 Views
You say that, based on having read maybe 2% of the list? Larry - 06/12/2009 09:27:32 PM 527 Views
Jane Eyre? Napoleon62 - 07/12/2009 12:00:36 AM 676 Views
It plays upon the Gothic novel precepts Larry - 07/12/2009 12:51:31 AM 546 Views
Larry...come on...if it's Fantasy I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you to buy Tom - 07/12/2009 04:17:38 AM 730 Views
Devise a better? Larry - 07/12/2009 04:34:46 AM 642 Views
It would be much shorter Tom - 07/12/2009 02:20:05 PM 912 Views
It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed Larry - 08/12/2009 11:26:35 PM 649 Views
Argh. Your quoting skills need work. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/12/2009 08:58:15 AM 346 Views
You seem to be misunderstanding Tom's post. Legolas - 09/12/2009 10:57:08 AM 659 Views
No,I was just just commenting on my likes/dislikes of that list Larry - 09/12/2009 01:21:45 PM 799 Views
I think you are misunderstanding again... jh - 09/12/2009 01:46:49 PM 772 Views
Yes. What Jonte said. *NM* Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:41:41 PM 362 Views
Oh,that Larry - 09/12/2009 06:07:11 PM 847 Views
Re: It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed Camilla - 21/12/2009 09:35:11 AM 1059 Views
I read it very recently. He masturbates to a dog. Fetishes != fantasy. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 01:58:57 AM 570 Views
Like I said, it's been years for me Larry - 07/12/2009 02:30:58 AM 773 Views
No worries. That one just got me a little testy. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:48:01 AM 666 Views
96... but so many books are missing that i can think of... i mean, really! temeraire - 07/12/2009 02:07:18 AM 619 Views
It's an interesting experiment of a list, miki, and I think it's little more than that Larry - 07/12/2009 02:29:56 AM 556 Views
I've read about 90 of them ranagrande - 18/12/2009 03:37:49 PM 929 Views
It would be a more interesting list if it contained more books that fantasy fans would want to read random thoughts - 30/12/2009 06:35:18 PM 795 Views
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