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I think I would only get slightly more interest than if it were Akkadian grammar. Tom Send a noteboard - 21/05/2010 08:13:24 PM
Come on, you want to learn about the ventive, bound forms of nouns vs. absolute and construct forms, the fucked up writing system (think in Sumerian, but pronounce it in Akkadian) and of course all the fun you can count on when studying any Semitic language in verbs (III-weak verbs, hollow verbs, I-aleph, I-nun and I-w verbs and all sorts of other fun fun fun!).

I realized at about Lesson 12 in the Akkadian book that it is by far the hardest Semitic language to learn. You basically have to know a decent amount of Sumerian to read and write it, you need to memorize about 150-300 of the more common signs (there are up to around 600, but half of those are just names of particular cities, etc.), and you have a more complex grammar than in Hebrew or Arabic (or Aramaic, but that goes without saying). I had to STOP at Lesson 12, fully learn the writing system (Neo-Assyrian forms; the Old Babylonian lapidary forms are the sort of thing that can be learned incrementally) then go back. Then, around Lesson 20, I had to go back and brush up on my Sumerian (and those Old Babylonian lapidary forms came in handy). Once I finish the whole textbook (38 lessons) I will be able to read most anything in Sumerian or Akkadian, which, combined with Biblical Hebrew, Aramaic (including Syriac), Egyptian (including Coptic) and classical languages will mean I've got the ancient world pretty well covered.

The question is, just what do I research once I'm done?
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Inspired by Camilla's post: quit saying "between you and I" already - 20/05/2010 04:16:29 PM 1220 Views
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When in actuality it exposese their stupidity and ignorance. *NM* - 20/05/2010 04:36:08 PM 205 Views
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*cough* move along... - 20/05/2010 07:16:18 PM 391 Views
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I think you're confusing it with phrase-final prepositions. *NM* - 20/05/2010 11:57:30 PM 307 Views
No - 21/05/2010 12:00:02 AM 357 Views
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Re: Oh right, that two (pro)nouns linked by "and" have to be the same case. - 21/05/2010 12:06:51 AM 599 Views
Er, no... - 21/05/2010 12:19:31 AM 352 Views
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But that is what I said when you contradicted me! *NM* - 21/05/2010 12:38:11 AM 293 Views
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Please let me know when you sort this out. - 21/05/2010 04:26:50 AM 329 Views
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Re: Inspired by Camilla's post: quit saying "between you and I" already - 20/05/2010 07:28:16 PM 476 Views
Look at Camilla's post directly below. - 20/05/2010 07:49:03 PM 386 Views
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It doesn't annoy me, but I do fine myself silently correcting it when I hear it. - 20/05/2010 07:44:49 PM 412 Views
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hollah that, brutha. *NM* - 20/05/2010 08:41:03 PM 298 Views
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I take it the wincing is at the concept, and not at the word itself... - 21/05/2010 12:32:43 AM 583 Views
It's the misappropriation of linguistic terminology to an improper use. - 21/05/2010 12:44:54 AM 652 Views
I note you haven't replied to the main thread yet... - 21/05/2010 01:12:05 AM 493 Views
Re: I note you haven't replied to the main thread yet... - 23/05/2010 01:36:10 PM 564 Views
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Well of course that's wrong. It ought to be "The man whom you said that was coming." *NM* - 21/05/2010 07:03:37 AM 173 Views
OK, I know you're kidding around, but I can't tell if you know it isn't even prescriptively correct. - 21/05/2010 10:38:51 AM 357 Views
<chant> - 21/05/2010 11:52:17 AM 344 Views
I can't draw you a syntax tree or what have you to prove that it's wrong, no, but I know it is. - 22/05/2010 02:56:52 AM 346 Views
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Clever clever. Explains why Greek changes the case in its indirect statements so much. *NM* - 22/05/2010 09:47:26 PM 173 Views
Example please? *NM* - 22/05/2010 10:34:05 PM 306 Views
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*blinks* Now I'm confused. - 21/05/2010 01:21:51 AM 341 Views
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I know that - 21/05/2010 05:31:52 AM 477 Views
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Huh. That makes sense. *NM* - 23/05/2010 02:32:57 AM 167 Views
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When asked who told him that killing was wrong, Johnny Five said "I told me." - 21/05/2010 09:52:15 PM 370 Views
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One additional thought. - 22/05/2010 02:14:15 AM 494 Views
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in my elementary school grammar classes... - 21/05/2010 04:44:50 AM 391 Views
I'm unaware of any exceptions. It's a very good rule. *NM* - 21/05/2010 07:04:23 AM 168 Views
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Same. - 21/05/2010 09:54:10 PM 381 Views
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I think I would only get slightly more interest than if it were Akkadian grammar. - 21/05/2010 08:13:24 PM 505 Views
True - 21/05/2010 08:45:54 PM 338 Views
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Those all sound boring. - 21/05/2010 10:03:25 PM 513 Views
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