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Re: there is one more group that needs to take some of the blame everynametaken Send a noteboard - 31/05/2010 02:39:14 AM
Why do we as tax payers keep subsidizer loans for degrees that basically amount to vanity degrees and give very little return to society. We should limit the number of government subsidized loans where there is no real job market.


I can see the point of view from which you are arguing but that would be pretty hard to enforce. First, you would have to create more bureaucracy to monitor all of that and secondly who gets to decide what is and isn't an important degree and on what basis?

BTW, I am still for mandatory military service for all capable adult males for two years. If we wanted as a nation to whip our youth into shape and teach them to be responsible what better way than basic training and an MOS? :P
All un-fit youth (and females who don;t want to do military service) could do an internship elsewhere for one to two years for law enforcement or charity.
We could even work in some kind of mandatory GI Bill sign-up for that period so that they would have some college money to pay for their schooling when they were done.

*Yes, before anyone says so, I know the benefits of an all-volunteer force. It is a two edged sword of sorts because morale would probably go down some with mandatory service. But, I think the overall benefits to our nation would be more than sufficient to compensate for the road to shit our youth are going down now.*
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One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read Tom - 30/05/2010 03:17:03 PM 1316 Views
Added to which she sounds like a spoiled brat Wibble - 30/05/2010 03:46:06 PM 999 Views
I think she's still slightly below the national average. Tom - 30/05/2010 04:26:16 PM 773 Views
I am uncertain if she is working full time. cmdjing - 31/05/2010 12:57:29 AM 854 Views
Have to agree here ... The_Muted_Grimaud - 30/05/2010 05:54:54 PM 768 Views
It's a column, not a real article... and it's more critical than you suggest. Legolas - 30/05/2010 04:02:26 PM 764 Views
No it isn't. Tom - 30/05/2010 04:24:20 PM 801 Views
Re: No it isn't. Legolas - 30/05/2010 04:56:42 PM 779 Views
Šertam aštakun Tom - 31/05/2010 04:14:28 AM 698 Views
I'm going to guess that wasn't very nice. Legolas - 31/05/2010 12:11:43 PM 758 Views
Subject was Akkadian, body was Sumerian. Tom - 31/05/2010 02:27:24 PM 707 Views
Here's the saddest part ... The_Muted_Grimaud - 30/05/2010 06:10:48 PM 851 Views
Very bad life planning, and sadly, it's not an isolated case. Tom - 31/05/2010 04:01:46 AM 715 Views
Same. Humanities, while necessary, are something of a luxury given the numbers. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/05/2010 07:35:25 AM 394 Views
"the best laid plans of mice and men" etc etc moondog - 31/05/2010 05:56:22 PM 718 Views
strange that you should be surprised AgentOrange - 04/06/2010 06:06:19 PM 761 Views
i don't think she's saying it's someone else's fault moondog - 30/05/2010 09:08:29 PM 747 Views
Re: One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read everynametaken - 30/05/2010 11:36:40 PM 758 Views
Don't get me started on the "everyone should go to college" mantra Tom - 31/05/2010 04:07:34 AM 726 Views
Re: Don't get me started on the "everyone should go to college" mantra everynametaken - 31/05/2010 04:23:54 AM 727 Views
100% in your camp here. LadyLorraine - 31/05/2010 04:35:45 AM 687 Views
I don't see the point in a humanities major if you aren't planning to get more than a bachelor's. Ghavrel - 31/05/2010 07:41:40 AM 888 Views
srsly. way to devalue a bachelor's degree, american society 9_9 LadyLorraine - 31/05/2010 08:07:47 AM 684 Views
I have a BA in English Literature. Rebekah - 31/05/2010 11:20:28 AM 806 Views
that's fair enough, since that's why you took it LadyLorraine - 31/05/2010 10:20:36 PM 767 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 01/06/2010 09:30:53 AM 724 Views
I think you mean "the government acts all brokenhearted about the amount of student debt." *NM* Ghavrel - 01/06/2010 09:38:38 AM 419 Views
Heh. True fact. *NM* Rebekah - 01/06/2010 09:56:09 AM 284 Views
That's kind of a weak reason, though. Ghavrel - 31/05/2010 11:11:49 PM 704 Views
I'm pretty sure I didn't use that as my reason... Rebekah - 31/05/2010 11:15:32 PM 736 Views
That's true, although I don't know how many jobs that's useful for. Ghavrel - 01/06/2010 01:20:29 AM 705 Views
That's fine. And I didn't go to Uni to get a job. I went for the education. Rebekah - 01/06/2010 09:29:28 AM 883 Views
I want to make clear that I, as a humanities major, really do like the humanities. Ghavrel - 01/06/2010 09:37:39 AM 882 Views
I know. Rebekah - 01/06/2010 09:55:41 AM 804 Views
If we're going down that path, though... Legolas - 31/05/2010 12:17:49 PM 843 Views
the bachelor requirement for professional programs... LadyLorraine - 31/05/2010 10:22:27 PM 775 Views
Education is a form of signaling BlackAdder - 31/05/2010 11:02:36 PM 761 Views
I do. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/05/2010 11:08:27 PM 288 Views
Some of us had the best intentions and then sabotaged them lyringlas - 02/06/2010 04:39:33 PM 800 Views
there is one more group that needs to take some of the blame random thoughts - 31/05/2010 01:58:39 AM 701 Views
Re: there is one more group that needs to take some of the blame everynametaken - 31/05/2010 02:39:14 AM 750 Views
Forget morale, the entire concept is immoral. LiterateDog - 31/05/2010 02:52:08 AM 733 Views
Nonsense. everynametaken - 31/05/2010 03:01:32 AM 754 Views
that's not what you're talking about though. LadyLorraine - 31/05/2010 04:40:45 AM 766 Views
Korea has that policy and look what a nice place that is...er, wait a minute... *NM* Dark Knight - 31/05/2010 06:08:14 AM 417 Views
So do many democratic countries across the world. And your point is what? *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2010 06:36:14 AM 388 Views
No, that's called paying taxes. Dreaded Anomaly - 31/05/2010 07:00:21 PM 734 Views
That would be a less repulsive idea if it wasn't so very sexist. Legolas - 31/05/2010 12:19:54 PM 763 Views
Heh, had the same thought. jh - 31/05/2010 12:47:16 PM 653 Views
We can put a man on the moon but looking at job number is too complicated? random thoughts - 31/05/2010 04:03:38 PM 841 Views
yeah, i probably would've rethought that physics degree if there were such a program in place moondog - 31/05/2010 03:27:14 AM 668 Views
physics BS is useless even I know that. LadyLorraine - 31/05/2010 04:43:36 AM 648 Views
We hire people with physics degrees all the time random thoughts - 31/05/2010 03:41:12 PM 659 Views
believe me, i tried moondog - 31/05/2010 05:59:09 PM 698 Views
Physics degrees have a variety of applications. Dreaded Anomaly - 31/05/2010 07:02:57 PM 698 Views
Re: Physics degrees have a variety of applications. moondog - 31/05/2010 07:59:22 PM 922 Views
you are near Denver right? random thoughts - 02/06/2010 09:33:06 PM 716 Views
at the time i was in wisconsin, never lived in denver before moondog - 03/06/2010 02:01:23 AM 707 Views
lots of high tech jobs in Texas random thoughts - 04/06/2010 06:29:39 PM 692 Views
i had a tech job in texas, still no physics jobs though moondog - 04/06/2010 07:10:29 PM 692 Views
ugh. stupid twat. LadyLorraine - 31/05/2010 02:21:27 AM 756 Views
See, you have a plan. Tom - 31/05/2010 04:08:24 AM 676 Views
yah. she's a stupid twat. and as you've pointed out, not the only one. LadyLorraine - 31/05/2010 04:42:20 AM 708 Views
so stupid *NM* Aisha - 31/05/2010 02:35:19 AM 263 Views
What a useless leech. LiterateDog - 31/05/2010 02:53:24 AM 716 Views
She works for a photographer. everynametaken - 31/05/2010 03:03:44 AM 729 Views
Women's Studies empowered her to make a victim out of herself. Aeryn - 31/05/2010 05:00:38 AM 747 Views
It's not just the women Tom - 31/05/2010 02:29:34 PM 707 Views
There used to be this thing called responsibility... SilverWarder - 31/05/2010 04:58:21 PM 741 Views
Re: There used to be this thing called responsibility... everynametaken - 31/05/2010 07:50:17 PM 874 Views
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