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Really? MalkierKnight Send a noteboard - 01/07/2010 08:07:29 AM
...I'm glad for you that you live in a town with such good public transport, but you need to remember that most of us don't.


I'm starting to wonder where it is you live that is a city that has no parking, no public transportation, a bus that comes once and hour, and busy roads that make cycling dangerous.

Sounds like made up land to me. At least part of it.
You must unlearn what you have learned.
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I got screamed at by a motorist while riding my bicycle today Deadsy - 28/06/2010 05:44:45 AM 1961 Views
Ummm MalkierKnight - 28/06/2010 06:01:19 AM 1590 Views
Let me guess. You live in an American suburb. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/06/2010 06:12:24 AM 676 Views
Yeah, the "sport" part gives that away even more than everything else... *NM* Legolas - 28/06/2010 08:06:03 AM 704 Views
seriously, you think people didn't use bikes as transportation anymore!! *NM* LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 08:26:36 AM 788 Views
LOL bikes? transportation? What?!??! get a car you european *NM* MalkierKnight - 30/06/2010 03:14:58 AM 672 Views
Sorry, but no. Deadsy - 28/06/2010 06:17:20 AM 1394 Views
I think you missed the part... LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 06:22:35 AM 1360 Views
That was offensive to cyclists. People who think like you are why so many of us die. *NM* Tim - 28/06/2010 08:28:24 AM 766 Views
Now that I've calmed down a bit, I'm going to actually address your points. Tim - 28/06/2010 12:16:10 PM 1740 Views
hey now! LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 01:18:16 PM 1256 Views
See apology below. *NM* Tim - 29/06/2010 08:34:17 AM 705 Views
it's okay dude i was just giving you a hard time *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 09:24:56 AM 702 Views
I understand that what he said offended you ßelals Girl - 28/06/2010 04:11:57 PM 1491 Views
You're right, I was stereotyping and getting a little ad hominem. I'm sorry. *NM* Tim - 29/06/2010 08:33:20 AM 740 Views
My social capital at this site is pretty low, so I don't mind admitting that I agree with MK. Aemon - 28/06/2010 04:12:42 PM 1372 Views
Re: My social capital at this site is pretty low, so I don't mind admitting that I agree with MK. Deadsy - 28/06/2010 06:27:42 PM 1387 Views
If the bike had been invented today, you might be right. Aemon - 28/06/2010 08:08:44 PM 1483 Views
This point: Rebekah - 28/06/2010 06:37:32 PM 1446 Views
Not in the United States. Avendesora - 28/06/2010 07:25:56 PM 1444 Views
Highways are, of course, a different matter. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 07:32:50 PM 1408 Views
I know Avendesora - 28/06/2010 07:34:04 PM 1513 Views
Re: I know Aemon - 28/06/2010 08:27:04 PM 1386 Views
Re: I know Avendesora - 28/06/2010 08:38:14 PM 1495 Views
That makes me mad. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 08:46:58 PM 1486 Views
Don't be mad Avendesora - 28/06/2010 08:52:47 PM 1305 Views
Re: I know lyringlas - 28/06/2010 09:15:22 PM 1467 Views
To your last question: Arlington County, VA MalkierKnight - 30/06/2010 03:29:55 AM 1275 Views
It is illegal to drive on the shoulder. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:43:40 AM 1498 Views
i'm pretty sure bicycles are banned from almost all highways, regardless of access LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 02:34:00 PM 1274 Views
Maybe I should have said "modern roads." Aemon - 28/06/2010 08:20:55 PM 1469 Views
Perhaps. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 08:36:15 PM 1546 Views
I think we just disagree on the necessity is all. Aemon - 28/06/2010 09:00:44 PM 1311 Views
Matters of degree, I suppose. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 09:07:40 PM 1292 Views
Yes, because that cyclist is SUCH a hazard to you in your car. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:03:05 AM 1423 Views
The central issue is people. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:52:22 AM 1411 Views
you keep talking about cyclists on highways as if it applied to all roads. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 02:37:31 PM 1501 Views
There are TWO equally important points there: Joel - 30/06/2010 01:15:17 AM 1481 Views
then why are you arguing with me? I said that the central issue is people being stupid. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/07/2010 05:59:23 AM 705 Views
Pardon my saying so, but, no, you did not say that. Joel - 01/07/2010 08:01:10 AM 1438 Views
Re: I think we just disagree on the necessity is all. Bored - 02/07/2010 09:19:13 PM 1423 Views
Two words: Public Transportation MalkierKnight - 30/06/2010 03:32:05 AM 1432 Views
...doesn't exist or is completely dysfunctional in a lot of places. *NM* Ghavrel - 30/06/2010 03:57:26 AM 747 Views
three words: share the road random thoughts - 30/06/2010 04:08:28 AM 1462 Views
Re: three words: share the road MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:03:54 AM 1514 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation Rebekah - 30/06/2010 08:43:51 AM 1590 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:05:37 AM 1456 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation Rebekah - 01/07/2010 08:40:10 AM 1361 Views
How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? Deadsy - 01/07/2010 08:52:45 AM 1472 Views
Re: How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? Angel Barchild - 04/07/2010 12:30:43 AM 1405 Views
Re: How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? MalkierKnight - 05/07/2010 09:03:03 AM 1457 Views
I'd say you have it exactly the wrong way round. Legolas - 01/07/2010 09:41:27 AM 1531 Views
You can't be serious. If you do think that's always (not just sometimes) a viable option, then... Tim - 30/06/2010 09:20:03 AM 1360 Views
Really? MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:07:29 AM 1197 Views
Have you heard of Britain? Rebekah - 01/07/2010 08:38:11 AM 1419 Views
My city doesn't have ANY. not even shuttle buses. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/07/2010 06:00:22 AM 764 Views
Re: My city doesn't have ANY. not even shuttle buses. MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:08:02 AM 1402 Views
Outside of a highly urbanized area, I surmise. The entirety of the US is not like the East Coast. *NM* Ghavrel - 02/07/2010 02:11:01 AM 764 Views
My city doesn't have anything eather. *NM* Angel Barchild - 04/07/2010 12:32:52 AM 854 Views
You do realize that... Jacob - 28/06/2010 08:38:39 PM 1437 Views
Bikers can be equally as rude, I agree. everynametaken - 29/06/2010 03:00:18 AM 1443 Views
heh Deadsy - 29/06/2010 04:45:46 AM 1442 Views
Despite your subject line, I'm glad to see that we agree with each other more than MK and I do. Tim - 29/06/2010 10:13:29 AM 1515 Views
Get your head on straight, you silly cyclist MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:02:58 AM 1301 Views
He never said there were no buses in our city. He said that, as a student, he can't afford them. *NM* Rebekah - 01/07/2010 08:42:47 AM 707 Views
I'd say most urban areas have few roads with speed limits above 50 km/h (30mph) Floffe - 01/07/2010 10:35:20 AM 1332 Views
Now now, there's no need to be rude. Tim - 02/07/2010 12:04:16 AM 1505 Views
Re: Now now, there's no need to be rude. MalkierKnight - 04/07/2010 05:53:01 PM 1295 Views
What part of "there are no alternatives" don't you understand? Ghavrel - 04/07/2010 09:10:23 PM 1337 Views
What part of my post did you not read...? MalkierKnight - 05/07/2010 09:01:32 AM 1536 Views
I agree entirely. Camilla - 28/06/2010 05:27:36 PM 1553 Views
Really???? Amys - 28/06/2010 04:59:12 PM 1418 Views
that's always really annoying LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 06:27:07 AM 1580 Views
That's always upsetting. You just have to remember that some people are simply arseholes, and... Tim - 28/06/2010 11:41:22 AM 1344 Views
mmm maybe...or encourage him to actually hit the next cyclist LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 01:19:10 PM 1299 Views
Re: I got screamed at by a motorist while riding my bicycle today Macharius - 28/06/2010 03:25:22 PM 1235 Views
Are they supposed to use sidewalks anywhere? *NM* Legolas - 28/06/2010 04:58:50 PM 675 Views
I doubt it. *NM* Macharius - 28/06/2010 05:32:17 PM 624 Views
my daughter rides her bike on the sidewalk all the time random thoughts - 28/06/2010 06:07:01 PM 1444 Views
In Sweden we often have combined bike and walking paths a few meters to the side of the road Floffe - 28/06/2010 06:22:40 PM 1289 Views
True, those aren't really what I'd call sidewalks though. *NM* Legolas - 28/06/2010 07:07:15 PM 776 Views
Not sure, but BlackAdder - 28/06/2010 06:53:14 PM 1279 Views
That all depends on what kind of road, I guess. Legolas - 28/06/2010 07:09:52 PM 1413 Views
we actually have a lot of cyclists on one of our 50mph roads LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:08:31 AM 1368 Views
I would Deadsy - 28/06/2010 07:25:22 PM 1298 Views
You've alluded to that a few times now. Sareitha Sedai - 28/06/2010 07:42:05 PM 1293 Views
a lot of the time they do in smaller cities LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:05:38 AM 1207 Views
Of course. Most bikers not in the mid-size to larger cities do. everynametaken - 29/06/2010 03:06:03 AM 1299 Views
Re: Are they supposed to use sidewalks anywhere? Bored - 02/07/2010 09:57:46 PM 1313 Views
That sucks random thoughts - 28/06/2010 04:34:35 PM 1246 Views
You have every right to be on the road. The guy was an ass. Avendesora - 28/06/2010 07:30:23 PM 1370 Views
Thankfully I live in a very bike-friendly city, though this sort of thing has still happened to me. *NM* Panorphaeon - 28/06/2010 07:56:59 PM 745 Views
that's because the central issues is not bike-friendly-ness. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:11:56 AM 1291 Views
I'm so glad I actually READ what you said before responding. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:16:25 AM 1420 Views
?? I thought it was matter of COURSE that bikes weren't allowed on the highway LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 09:27:06 AM 1394 Views
Should be, but it's not. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:59:35 AM 1372 Views
Question for you. Tim - 29/06/2010 10:22:13 AM 1220 Views
the law says they have to to ride in single file as close to curb as is practical random thoughts - 29/06/2010 03:31:55 PM 1311 Views
and i haven't said that anywhere. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 02:39:06 PM 1291 Views
That is what you get for living in Austin *NM* random thoughts - 29/06/2010 02:38:20 PM 734 Views
about the driving on the shoulder thing random thoughts - 29/06/2010 02:49:29 PM 1464 Views
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