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This is just the BBforum argument rehashed. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 16/07/2010 06:07:20 PM
Yes, RAFO's design is minimalist, but you might consider that there are people who are tired of image signatures 500 pixels deep and avatars so large they crowd out actual content.

As for making advertising look good, bullshit. You can ameliorate the damage, but it makes a site look pathetic. Show me a site with good looking advertising; I can't recall seeing one in the past ten years.
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
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EDIT: Remember folks, today's the last day of the free premium accounts! Nebhead - 06/07/2010 08:52:02 PM 3412 Views
Awesome job, mate! jiggy - 06/07/2010 09:03:20 PM 1501 Views
I see that you've also fixed the spelling of "received" in the noteboards. Rebekah - 06/07/2010 09:08:00 PM 1518 Views
Erm... can you recheck your settings? Nebhead - 06/07/2010 09:20:50 PM 1456 Views
They've not changed. *NM* Rebekah - 06/07/2010 09:22:07 PM 827 Views
Default quote setting is excellent ironclad - 06/07/2010 10:02:35 PM 1525 Views
Throw in a pair of dinosaur socks and an Indiana Jones 'monkey-head' soup bowl and I'm sold. Kuke - 06/07/2010 11:46:47 PM 1403 Views
Nice! Camilla - 06/07/2010 11:51:09 PM 1304 Views
Yay! Avendesora - 07/07/2010 04:32:39 PM 1339 Views
Time zone Palatine - 07/07/2010 05:23:43 PM 1304 Views
Yeah, Us/Eastern is ahead an hour too. Aemon - 07/07/2010 05:44:40 PM 1495 Views
Cool, I must locate some money to get one. *NM* Stephen - 08/07/2010 03:48:59 PM 880 Views
I all of a sudden miss Wse Roland00 - 10/07/2010 01:28:00 AM 1377 Views
In a way, yes *NM* Ryan - 16/07/2010 06:43:14 AM 791 Views
Just how much bandwidth is Read and Find out using per month? cmdjing - 11/07/2010 05:50:02 AM 1440 Views
So, you think Ben should pay it out of his own pocket then? ursidae - 12/07/2010 09:33:27 AM 1601 Views
Oh Jing. @my - 12/07/2010 08:05:31 PM 1496 Views
It's a very reasonable question. Aemon - 12/07/2010 09:29:26 PM 1596 Views
Good point *NM* ursidae - 12/07/2010 09:38:25 PM 768 Views
While hosting can be had that cheap, I certainly wouldn't want to use it. Nebhead - 13/07/2010 12:04:55 AM 1603 Views
You want to charge people for functionality every other forum on the web gives them for free? Werthead - 14/07/2010 08:47:32 PM 1656 Views
It is exactly the same stuff Mike asked money for Camilla - 14/07/2010 09:00:55 PM 1309 Views
Why can't people even ask the question(s)? Sareitha Sedai - 14/07/2010 09:22:11 PM 1460 Views
Re: Why can't people even ask the question(s)? Camilla - 14/07/2010 09:36:54 PM 1530 Views
Well Sareitha Sedai - 14/07/2010 09:57:09 PM 1651 Views
Exactly. Werthead - 15/07/2010 12:09:14 AM 1421 Views
The messageboards are perfectly functional without a premium account. Nebhead - 14/07/2010 09:17:43 PM 1295 Views
I see it as a way of giving people something back for donations. Rebekah - 14/07/2010 10:09:08 PM 1573 Views
He does have a point when it comes to hyperlinks. lord-of-shadow - 15/07/2010 06:52:41 PM 1288 Views
There are other reasons why I don't want links in posts Nebhead - 15/07/2010 08:18:53 PM 1324 Views
Why is that? lord-of-shadow - 15/07/2010 09:14:52 PM 1493 Views
Viable alternatives Werthead - 15/07/2010 01:16:39 AM 1535 Views
I have to agree with you here Ryan - 16/07/2010 06:55:43 AM 1304 Views
Advertising makes a site look like shit. Ghavrel - 16/07/2010 08:28:00 AM 1196 Views
Only if you choose to let it. Werthead - 16/07/2010 12:17:47 PM 1521 Views
This is just the BBforum argument rehashed. Ghavrel - 16/07/2010 06:07:20 PM 1496 Views
But those are the very things being introduced by the premium accounts. Werthead - 17/07/2010 12:44:05 PM 1517 Views
Re: One Thing TaskmasterJack - 17/07/2010 04:24:51 PM 1438 Views
Agreed. Camilla - 17/07/2010 04:34:09 PM 1413 Views
RAFO is a lot of great things, but great-looking it is not. lord-of-shadow - 16/07/2010 02:28:50 PM 1426 Views
As I've said above... Nebhead - 16/07/2010 01:49:37 PM 1491 Views
Just to be clear: Nebhead - 16/07/2010 03:18:22 PM 1446 Views
Re: As I've said above... Milla - 16/07/2010 05:58:39 PM 1447 Views
Premium Plus account does. Rebekah - 16/07/2010 06:05:07 PM 1490 Views
What's the point if people can't see my obnoxious, animated avatar?! Ghavrel - 16/07/2010 06:10:03 PM 1289 Views
Good lord Ghavrel, you're just posting straw men. Don't put words in people's mouths. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 16/07/2010 07:08:20 PM 711 Views
No, I'm mocking your arguments because they are dumb. Difference! :p *NM* Ghavrel - 17/07/2010 02:21:43 AM 712 Views
That at least is not a problem, as the premium accounts are introducing them to the site. Werthead - 17/07/2010 12:46:33 PM 1503 Views
They aren't displayed, so I don't mind. But what is "far worse" than other SFF forums? *NM* Ghavrel - 17/07/2010 10:08:47 PM 704 Views
The personal smileys Larry - 18/07/2010 11:58:09 AM 1434 Views
Re: Premium Plus account does. Milla - 16/07/2010 06:13:17 PM 1309 Views
Re: Premium Plus account does. Rebekah - 16/07/2010 09:03:27 PM 1299 Views
And Camilla - 17/07/2010 04:37:12 PM 1400 Views
To be honest, that misses part of the appeal for some of us snoopcester - 17/07/2010 12:17:15 AM 1377 Views
It's a start Floffe - 16/07/2010 06:37:44 PM 1426 Views
Yeah, that's the other thing. Rebekah - 16/07/2010 08:59:51 PM 1398 Views
Go Ben! \o/ *NM* globug0822 - 18/07/2010 02:52:30 AM 660 Views
That's the root of the problem. Werthead - 21/07/2010 01:10:56 PM 1584 Views
Question Larry - 18/07/2010 12:02:02 PM 1581 Views
I think it's reasonable BlackAdder - 17/07/2010 12:33:56 AM 1639 Views
Just signed up for Premium Plus.....and totally un-Britished the calendar/time zone trzaska2000 - 17/07/2010 05:48:39 AM 1351 Views
I like it, and thanks =) Two Wongs - 23/07/2010 12:43:11 PM 1309 Views
Sounds like a bargain to me. This must have taken an unbelievable amount of work to set up. Tashmere - 26/07/2010 07:48:16 PM 1204 Views
I don't really have a problem paying - I just dislike Paypal. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/08/2010 05:53:14 PM 1843 Views
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