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Re: Why do people equate.... Sidious Send a noteboard - 12/08/2010 08:04:24 PM
being against Homosexual marriage as being homophobic?

~Jeordam


Because you're denying them something that every person wants - a way to validate their relationship with their life partner. You're so proud of yourself that you don't throw rocks at gay people but you're more than willing to aid in their emotional obliteration and to deny them spiritual fulfilment.

This is my boyfriend of 26 years... if I die he's not entitled to anything. WTF? My teenage sister has a boyfriend. Can you seriously not see the difference in gravity between a husband and a boyfriend, wife and girlfriend?

At least bigots in posts lower down on the board admit that they are homophobic and find the practice intolerable. It's shocking that you actually consider yourself to NOT be a bigot. You claim to have gay friends, but I cannot imagine a gay person who would put up with any of these opinions.
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Gay Marriage - 12/08/2010 10:23:19 AM 1789 Views
I disagree on the latter part - 12/08/2010 12:04:15 PM 1161 Views
I follow your point... - 12/08/2010 12:14:17 PM 1151 Views
Suspect you would find plenty of denominations that would argue with you rather strenuously. - 12/08/2010 12:24:55 PM 1147 Views
See, that's what I'm saying... - 12/08/2010 07:37:26 PM 1100 Views
She didn't say that gays ought not be married. - 12/08/2010 07:45:37 PM 966 Views
You didn't read my post. - 12/08/2010 09:10:21 PM 1023 Views
Actually, you didn't read my post - 12/08/2010 09:23:54 PM 1061 Views
Um, you're wrong. - 12/08/2010 09:37:13 PM 1064 Views
Re: Um, you're wrong. - 12/08/2010 09:44:17 PM 1022 Views
You're still wrong. - 12/08/2010 09:54:55 PM 1159 Views
Re: You're still wrong. - 12/08/2010 09:58:26 PM 1018 Views
Again, you are still wrong. - 12/08/2010 10:04:42 PM 1068 Views
Re: Again, you are still wrong. - 12/08/2010 10:17:13 PM 920 Views
Wrong definition of "club" - 12/08/2010 10:30:52 PM 1160 Views
My clubs are cooler than yours. *NM* - 12/08/2010 10:35:13 PM 558 Views
I play golf with mine. *NM* - 12/08/2010 10:43:01 PM 568 Views
Re: Wrong definition of "club" - 12/08/2010 10:40:55 PM 1064 Views
Are you a member of one of those churches? - 12/08/2010 10:44:12 PM 1080 Views
Also also: - 12/08/2010 10:46:05 PM 1092 Views
Re: Are you a member of one of those churches? - 12/08/2010 10:49:44 PM 995 Views
Re: Wrong definition of "club" - 12/08/2010 10:47:20 PM 1106 Views
I don't think he means that kind of club. - 12/08/2010 10:31:41 PM 981 Views
Also - 12/08/2010 10:02:44 PM 1119 Views
And wrong again. - 12/08/2010 10:08:24 PM 1139 Views
Not so quick! - 12/08/2010 10:21:31 PM 976 Views
Yes, so quick! - 12/08/2010 10:32:13 PM 926 Views
Let's be reasonable here - 12/08/2010 10:41:53 PM 1028 Views
Why do you get to judge? - 12/08/2010 10:48:57 PM 1057 Views
I don't - 12/08/2010 10:53:21 PM 952 Views
OK. - 12/08/2010 10:58:22 PM 1068 Views
Re: OK. - 12/08/2010 11:03:50 PM 992 Views
Then please stop. - 12/08/2010 11:01:05 PM 1029 Views
What's wrong with discussion? - 12/08/2010 11:05:48 PM 974 Views
Discussion? Nothing. Your assertions about other people's views, something. - 12/08/2010 11:09:48 PM 1000 Views
Really? - 12/08/2010 11:13:46 PM 1025 Views
Yes. That is incorrect. - 12/08/2010 11:18:05 PM 991 Views
What, because the expressive message of scouting is anti-gay? - 12/08/2010 10:12:54 PM 870 Views
Re: What, because the expressive message of scouting is anti-gay? - 12/08/2010 10:23:36 PM 1017 Views
Well then that brings us back to my question, which you have yet to answer. - 12/08/2010 10:36:48 PM 975 Views
Re: Well then that brings us back to my question, which you have yet to answer. - 12/08/2010 10:46:22 PM 1084 Views
Apparently you do believe that you are more qualified - 12/08/2010 10:57:00 PM 968 Views
You are wrong - 12/08/2010 11:11:37 PM 812 Views
Really? - 12/08/2010 11:19:10 PM 906 Views
Not entirely true either... or, well, true as far as Brown goes. - 12/08/2010 10:08:42 PM 986 Views
Heh... we discuss restaurants a post or two over there.. ---> - 12/08/2010 10:10:26 PM 1072 Views
Actually, I did. And since everyone else told you you're wrong about that I didn't see any need - 12/08/2010 09:38:33 PM 1058 Views
Re: Actually, I did. And since everyone else told you you're wrong about that I didn't see any need - 12/08/2010 09:55:05 PM 998 Views
Gah. - 12/08/2010 09:59:45 PM 948 Views
Yes yes yes. It was ungracious. I got bored. *NM* - 12/08/2010 10:03:17 PM 519 Views
What a mature response. - 12/08/2010 10:11:00 PM 1127 Views
Yes. - 12/08/2010 10:21:38 PM 1068 Views
Re: Yes. - 12/08/2010 10:35:51 PM 1012 Views
I can't speak for Rebekah, but I don't think the issue is that your points are invalid per se. - 12/08/2010 10:22:30 PM 968 Views
I think my point was unclear in that post - 12/08/2010 10:55:34 PM 1034 Views
It seems that by your (to me nebulous) definition - 12/08/2010 11:05:01 PM 1048 Views
Re: I think my point was unclear in that post - 13/08/2010 10:58:28 AM 945 Views
+1 - 13/08/2010 09:16:24 AM 832 Views
Hehe - 13/08/2010 10:46:25 AM 884 Views
Um - 12/08/2010 09:46:43 PM 1094 Views
That's a very good question. *NM* - 12/08/2010 09:49:05 PM 512 Views
So good it doesn't even need an answer, apparently *NM* - 12/08/2010 10:26:41 PM 552 Views
So good I responded to it someplace else. *NM* - 12/08/2010 10:56:05 PM 447 Views
It makes no sense - 12/08/2010 04:29:24 PM 929 Views
Re: It makes no sense - 12/08/2010 07:39:25 PM 1008 Views
Re: It makes no sense - 12/08/2010 07:41:02 PM 1083 Views
It's not sanctioning anything - 12/08/2010 09:25:44 PM 1040 Views
Re: It's not sanctioning anything - 12/08/2010 09:28:45 PM 1003 Views
Nonsense - 12/08/2010 09:35:25 PM 958 Views
Yes, but while marrying two murderers does not ensure that they will continue to murder... - 12/08/2010 09:08:53 PM 920 Views
Re: Yes, but while marrying two murderers does not ensure that they will continue to murder... - 12/08/2010 09:42:21 PM 1037 Views
Suspect you've not read that either. - 12/08/2010 09:43:32 PM 969 Views
What other church sanctioned circumstances encourage continued sin? - 12/08/2010 09:45:33 PM 1097 Views
Infant baptism, obviously. - 12/08/2010 09:51:48 PM 1081 Views
*NM* - 12/08/2010 09:53:17 PM 357 Views
*groan* I forgot that one! - 12/08/2010 10:09:07 PM 1037 Views
Re: What other church sanctioned circumstances encourage continued sin? - 13/08/2010 11:04:02 AM 1029 Views
Wow, it's almost like an entire denomination believes that! *NM* - 13/08/2010 03:41:07 PM 495 Views
really? - 13/08/2010 03:42:42 PM 908 Views
- 13/08/2010 03:43:26 PM 830 Views
Yeah, that's the Roman Catholic basis against masturbation and contraception. *NM* - 13/08/2010 04:12:00 PM 496 Views
Yes - 13/08/2010 04:22:58 PM 880 Views
Which is interesting - 13/08/2010 04:28:09 PM 868 Views
Yes - 13/08/2010 04:29:25 PM 857 Views
Original poster. *NM* - 13/08/2010 04:32:18 PM 550 Views
- 13/08/2010 04:34:30 PM 878 Views
Dude....please at least have a working knowledge of the Bible before you spout off. - 12/08/2010 10:47:13 PM 911 Views
I like the part in 1 Corinthians (is it chapter 6?) - 12/08/2010 10:49:55 PM 814 Views
Ya know?!? - 12/08/2010 10:55:27 PM 922 Views
I'm not sure you're correct there. - 12/08/2010 04:33:02 PM 1024 Views
Re: I'm not sure you're correct there. - 12/08/2010 07:40:16 PM 1044 Views
There is a difference... - 12/08/2010 09:02:20 PM 1078 Views
No you don't. - 12/08/2010 09:16:52 PM 1059 Views
That's another concern - 12/08/2010 12:39:53 PM 1113 Views
Not quite my point - 12/08/2010 09:19:50 PM 981 Views
secular marriage is decoupled from religious marriage - 12/08/2010 02:50:43 PM 1110 Views
Simple, require the legal and religious marriage to be performed separately. - 12/08/2010 02:58:43 PM 943 Views
What in the world would that accomplish? - 12/08/2010 03:44:32 PM 1028 Views
Provide some much-needed clarity, evidently. - 12/08/2010 03:49:33 PM 874 Views
the problem is it would be changing a centuries old tradition.. - 12/08/2010 04:26:47 PM 888 Views
heheheheheheheHAHAHAHEHEHehehehehahheeh*cough* - 12/08/2010 04:55:09 PM 895 Views
thats OK I am sure you will get over it - 12/08/2010 05:22:08 PM 922 Views
Just guessing, but I think it was the "centuries old tradition" that set off the giggle fit. - 12/08/2010 07:25:38 PM 1050 Views
Really? I was hoping for something better - 12/08/2010 10:06:00 PM 983 Views
So government recognition makes your religion meaningful? - 12/08/2010 10:11:54 PM 1069 Views
not my religion I'm agnostic - 12/08/2010 10:34:40 PM 935 Views
OK, but the point remains the same. - 12/08/2010 10:51:59 PM 1042 Views
Of course it would - 12/08/2010 11:10:03 PM 1119 Views
I'm not far left, thank you very much. *NM* - 12/08/2010 10:20:31 PM 566 Views
no but your are European and that slants your views *NM* - 12/08/2010 10:36:01 PM 559 Views
Sure, but in this case it has little to do with left or right. - 12/08/2010 10:40:42 PM 997 Views
that is what I said when I metioned you were European *NM* - 12/08/2010 11:11:31 PM 557 Views
Simples - 12/08/2010 09:30:31 PM 1010 Views
there are about 140 post ranging from boyscouts to infant babtism - 12/08/2010 10:57:46 PM 1013 Views
So. - 14/08/2010 01:27:59 AM 844 Views
sorry I responded I forgot what a tool you are. my bad - 14/08/2010 02:48:57 AM 1371 Views
Agreed *NM* - 12/08/2010 03:45:04 PM 445 Views
I love you, Camilla - 12/08/2010 04:02:15 PM 814 Views
Re: I love you, Camilla - 12/08/2010 04:04:10 PM 998 Views
Is there an all above option? *NM* - 12/08/2010 04:23:24 PM 593 Views
Naturally. - 12/08/2010 04:25:14 PM 990 Views
I know I do *NM* - 12/08/2010 05:17:35 PM 519 Views
Another thing - 12/08/2010 07:42:21 PM 1076 Views
A couple of things - 12/08/2010 12:58:09 PM 989 Views
I disagree - 12/08/2010 07:47:26 PM 1101 Views
Well, you're within your rights to certainly - 12/08/2010 08:24:30 PM 1081 Views
there is major flaw in your argument - 12/08/2010 03:31:45 PM 1119 Views
Re: there is major flaw in your argument - 12/08/2010 04:01:32 PM 1001 Views
I should clarify that I support gay marriage - 12/08/2010 05:20:36 PM 941 Views
One point about Prop. 8 - 12/08/2010 07:38:55 PM 979 Views
I know that is the commonl;y held belief but I thinkit is wrong - 12/08/2010 10:32:58 PM 902 Views
Religious institutions, though, pushed hard to pass it. - 12/08/2010 10:42:33 PM 984 Views
there are major flaws in your argument - 12/08/2010 07:51:52 PM 1078 Views
Women can't be priests in the Catholic church. - 12/08/2010 08:00:24 PM 764 Views
Hehe. You beat me by 6 seconds. *NM* - 12/08/2010 08:03:28 PM 474 Views
Great minds and all. *NM* - 12/08/2010 08:06:01 PM 480 Views
I was writing a reply to this post... - 12/08/2010 03:51:01 PM 1004 Views
I feel your pain *NM* - 12/08/2010 07:52:28 PM 557 Views
Forcing religious institutions to marry gay couples is hideously unconstitutional. - 12/08/2010 04:18:59 PM 1028 Views
100% agreed. - 12/08/2010 05:05:35 PM 1090 Views
This. *NM* - 12/08/2010 07:36:57 PM 402 Views
You are absolutely wrong - 12/08/2010 07:57:19 PM 1025 Views
By that token - 12/08/2010 08:00:30 PM 909 Views
My God.... - 12/08/2010 09:49:18 PM 974 Views
no You are absolutely wrong - 12/08/2010 10:08:57 PM 912 Views
Well, that was horrifyingly stupid. - 13/08/2010 12:57:46 AM 997 Views
I am a Christian who wholeheartedly supports Gay Marriage. - 12/08/2010 06:49:28 PM 1103 Views
Fair enough. - 12/08/2010 08:01:37 PM 1044 Views
Why do people equate.... - 12/08/2010 07:11:15 PM 947 Views
Because "homophobic", like "xenophobic", has shifted a bit in meaning... - 12/08/2010 07:33:56 PM 1019 Views
So then.... - 12/08/2010 07:39:24 PM 934 Views
Well, strongly anti-gay, yes. - 12/08/2010 07:43:40 PM 803 Views
Homophobic is generally "anti-gay" or "anti-queer"... - 12/08/2010 07:46:22 PM 1099 Views
Re: Why do people equate.... - 12/08/2010 08:04:24 PM 1084 Views
+1 - 12/08/2010 08:06:19 PM 1133 Views
Stop with the pile on Camilla. - 12/08/2010 09:22:35 PM 1060 Views
You would have said nothing if I had just said "agreed" - 12/08/2010 09:27:33 PM 879 Views
Which speaks highly of you.... - 12/08/2010 09:36:30 PM 1066 Views
This is being very petty. *NM* - 12/08/2010 09:41:26 PM 530 Views
As opposed to a snarky +1 comment? *NM* - 12/08/2010 09:45:02 PM 548 Views
It's not snarky. - 12/08/2010 09:47:47 PM 994 Views
Its a +1 shorthand comment... - 12/08/2010 09:52:04 PM 1281 Views
Wow. Those two characters allowed you to read Camilla's motivations? - 12/08/2010 09:54:25 PM 909 Views
*shrug* - 12/08/2010 09:58:42 PM 1119 Views
Yes, I am terribly selfish - 13/08/2010 09:10:54 AM 898 Views
Re: Why do people equate.... - 12/08/2010 09:13:07 PM 1086 Views
Re: Why do people equate.... - 12/08/2010 09:26:41 PM 1006 Views
LOL - 12/08/2010 09:42:32 PM 971 Views
Re: LOL - 13/08/2010 09:12:29 AM 917 Views
you are exactly why the state needs to make a clear seperation between the secular and religious - 12/08/2010 09:33:22 PM 962 Views
Ok, so if the state does then... - 12/08/2010 09:44:31 PM 907 Views
No, marriage started because of property. - 12/08/2010 09:59:14 PM 1001 Views
So then two things come to mind... - 12/08/2010 10:04:39 PM 980 Views
Only two? - 12/08/2010 10:27:08 PM 983 Views
Is this the same guy... - 12/08/2010 10:43:02 PM 891 Views
I thought the cow died in an accident, but yes... that guy. - 12/08/2010 10:58:46 PM 966 Views
That's a little difficult to do - 13/08/2010 03:19:32 PM 1136 Views
Re: That's a little difficult to do - 13/08/2010 03:30:14 PM 1010 Views
Oh, I hope not - 13/08/2010 04:19:47 PM 1011 Views
I may be wrong - 13/08/2010 04:24:28 PM 959 Views
Property isn't just agricultural. - 13/08/2010 06:11:12 PM 884 Views
True enough - 16/08/2010 03:12:31 PM 1206 Views
yes but about half of the old testament deals with protecting those rights - 13/08/2010 05:16:09 PM 977 Views
The relationship between religion and rain go even farther back... - 13/08/2010 06:15:32 PM 957 Views
to me it is a beside the point when it comes to the law - 13/08/2010 06:25:50 PM 985 Views
moot, not mute - 13/08/2010 08:48:04 PM 1207 Views
damn - 13/08/2010 08:52:23 PM 1049 Views
Actually, I agree with that - 12/08/2010 10:01:37 PM 855 Views
See, now this, I could deal with.... - 12/08/2010 10:06:15 PM 849 Views
So is it that you are hung up on the name then? - 13/08/2010 03:29:02 PM 925 Views
Rights.... - 12/08/2010 09:34:45 PM 946 Views
See, what I don't get is why gay people care about - 12/08/2010 08:18:45 PM 967 Views
It's mostly about getting married in the eyes of the state. - 12/08/2010 08:42:52 PM 1086 Views
I'm fairly sure Jonte was referring only to the "churches have to accept gay marriages" bit. *NM* - 12/08/2010 08:44:52 PM 580 Views
Hmmm... Then I shall reply to that part here. - 12/08/2010 08:50:10 PM 1080 Views
Oh, so it is an american thing, then. *NM* - 14/08/2010 08:58:28 AM 523 Views
Starting again - 12/08/2010 08:23:08 PM 1057 Views
Not at all - 12/08/2010 10:58:45 PM 989 Views
Re: Not at all - 13/08/2010 09:14:48 AM 794 Views
Agreed *NM* - 13/08/2010 10:21:06 AM 411 Views
Oh dear - 13/08/2010 10:30:45 AM 906 Views
But what if I like being selfish and evil? *NM* - 13/08/2010 11:25:01 AM 544 Views
Well, being English might help you get away with it - 13/08/2010 11:26:17 AM 787 Views
I'm curious - 13/08/2010 01:49:15 PM 946 Views
- 13/08/2010 01:54:19 PM 839 Views
Okay, good. - 13/08/2010 01:58:14 PM 1009 Views
I suppose you also think that religious Pacifists should be eligible for the draft? - 12/08/2010 08:42:21 PM 1054 Views
very nicely said *NM* - 13/08/2010 02:16:53 PM 428 Views

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