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Ok, sure. StormCrow Send a noteboard - 17/08/2010 06:09:33 PM

...is that what happened there didn't just happen to non-muslims. It could even be argued that the gravity of what happened there is greater for American muslims.


Yes, Muslims suffered directly in the attack and also indirectly after the attack. Don't think I'd say it was greater or less than anyone else's suffering, but point granted.

My problem with building it here comes from the reasoning behind the attacks. This was an attack on the West, its Judeo-Christian leanings, and foreign ties with Israel. The radical Muslim terrorists didn't come aiming to kill as many peaceful American Muslims as possible; though I'm sure killing some along the way didn't bother them in the least.

I feel crappy now too, because I started looking for demographics after your post. Found out that the most people who died, outside of those living directly in NYC, were from Hoboken.
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Wait, wait WAIT! The location for the so-called "mosque at ground zero" is actually 2 blocks away?! - 17/08/2010 03:19:02 PM 2692 Views
it's still too close!! IT'S TOO CLOSE I SAY - 17/08/2010 03:23:12 PM 1670 Views
*NM* - 18/08/2010 11:40:26 AM 756 Views
Yes, it is. - 17/08/2010 03:23:33 PM 1697 Views
Another stupid question...is it even actually a mosque? - 17/08/2010 03:28:37 PM 1533 Views
I've heard the same. - 17/08/2010 03:30:36 PM 1457 Views
So - 17/08/2010 03:35:43 PM 1567 Views
blog link - 17/08/2010 03:41:43 PM 1798 Views
that's correct *NM* - 17/08/2010 03:51:38 PM 749 Views
it's both from what I've heard. - 17/08/2010 04:00:54 PM 1454 Views
sort of like most churches, mosques and temples? *NM* - 17/08/2010 04:04:12 PM 744 Views
mmm, i think more like... - 17/08/2010 04:08:55 PM 1435 Views
it is a community center with a mosque - 17/08/2010 04:28:08 PM 1344 Views
A memorial! - 17/08/2010 04:58:52 PM 1566 Views
it is a community center with a mosque - 17/08/2010 04:28:09 PM 1501 Views
my wife's church has a play ground and community center - 17/08/2010 04:47:52 PM 1453 Views
okay, cool then - 17/08/2010 05:17:04 PM 1290 Views
I was just being nit picky - 17/08/2010 05:44:36 PM 1294 Views
Been hearing a lot on NPR - 17/08/2010 03:32:42 PM 1535 Views
I could see it being insensitive if it were actually where the towers used to be. - 17/08/2010 03:43:18 PM 1620 Views
Yeah. - 17/08/2010 03:51:13 PM 1535 Views
precisely. - 17/08/2010 04:02:44 PM 1398 Views
you should probably keep in mind.... - 17/08/2010 04:02:25 PM 1552 Views
So - 17/08/2010 04:06:18 PM 1604 Views
don't use that term at all. Say WTC. *NM* - 18/08/2010 12:27:32 AM 757 Views
I know. - 17/08/2010 04:26:19 PM 1450 Views
it certainly has turned into a political land mine for Obama... - 17/08/2010 03:54:03 PM 1468 Views
True - 17/08/2010 04:02:04 PM 1276 Views
unfortunately... - 17/08/2010 04:05:08 PM 1420 Views
That's because they are pussies. - 17/08/2010 04:10:59 PM 1582 Views
This is beginning to sound familiar. - 17/08/2010 05:18:37 PM 1656 Views
with the senate majority leader weighing it I don't believe it is all how it is mostly on the right - 17/08/2010 05:58:10 PM 1541 Views
Seems we disagree on that, then. - 17/08/2010 06:05:33 PM 1513 Views
hardly the first time - 17/08/2010 06:56:33 PM 1493 Views
Well, since day 1 of this whole debate alot of the opposition has come from the right. - 17/08/2010 10:50:49 PM 1540 Views
you assume it is pandering maybe they just agree with the majority - 18/08/2010 02:30:53 AM 1442 Views
I'm not saying it's a partisan issue, but it has turned political for all the wrong reasons. - 18/08/2010 04:18:49 AM 1618 Views
is the idea that it is not to close to ground zero the misinformation you are refering to? - 18/08/2010 03:09:17 PM 1449 Views
Well, it's not like they're literally on ground zero. - 18/08/2010 08:54:08 PM 1614 Views
ground zero is defined as where the old WTC complex was - 19/08/2010 12:23:32 PM 1431 Views
And anything within a 3 block radius apparently? - 20/08/2010 04:44:25 AM 1475 Views
Guess which of them will be out of a job in January? - 18/08/2010 01:22:49 PM 1469 Views
the only reason Obama won't be out of job is he isn't running - 18/08/2010 03:10:58 PM 1424 Views
Oh, I dunno if you could translate the current numbers into Obamas defeat. - 18/08/2010 03:52:18 PM 1481 Views
Bush's numbers were much better in 04 then Obama's are now - 18/08/2010 04:11:31 PM 1578 Views
Perhaps so then. - 19/08/2010 04:51:36 PM 1466 Views
it was a large event so two half blocks really is pretty damn close - 17/08/2010 04:03:17 PM 1570 Views
Here's a map of the site for perspective - 17/08/2010 04:08:41 PM 1627 Views
so 2 blocks from the superblock then? - 17/08/2010 04:13:03 PM 1673 Views
I guess, superblock is an obscure term to this country lad - 17/08/2010 04:41:11 PM 1439 Views
It may not necessarily matter to people who are aware of that fact. - 17/08/2010 05:13:12 PM 1428 Views
mk, well, to my mind (being from phoeni, 1 full city block is about 1 mile. - 17/08/2010 05:15:49 PM 1488 Views
A mile is a serious exaggeration, surely. - 17/08/2010 05:24:48 PM 1610 Views
Remember, I did say in Phoenix - 17/08/2010 05:27:43 PM 1530 Views
I really need to see Phoenix some day. - 17/08/2010 05:32:40 PM 1523 Views
i still think houston is more spread out than phoenix - 18/08/2010 08:21:10 AM 1517 Views
unless you go far enough west of course - 18/08/2010 03:30:45 PM 1387 Views
most of california is pretty spread out, city-wise. - 19/08/2010 02:16:44 AM 1352 Views
true, I was think along the lines of San Fransico - 19/08/2010 03:47:12 AM 1436 Views
Absolutely. - 17/08/2010 05:28:38 PM 1501 Views
In NYC, generally 1 mile = 20 blocks *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:25:21 PM 801 Views
Okay. I guess i just forget how much larger Phoenix is *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:28:13 PM 700 Views
Google Earth says 500 feet between mosque and GZ *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:30:59 PM 713 Views
Clarify: 500 ft between the mosque and the border of the area on the map? *NM* - 17/08/2010 07:03:51 PM 719 Views
Probably, given my corner-to-corner result. *NM* - 17/08/2010 07:26:19 PM 747 Views
Yes, down West Broadway (contains old ground view from site) - 17/08/2010 07:31:58 PM 1656 Views
Personally, I think this supports Ave's point. - 17/08/2010 04:16:15 PM 1540 Views
yes... - 17/08/2010 04:29:51 PM 1548 Views
Right. - 17/08/2010 04:31:29 PM 1494 Views
Believe me, honey. - 17/08/2010 04:32:47 PM 1354 Views
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You know what else is on Park Place? A strip club. - 17/08/2010 11:58:56 PM 1424 Views
Really? I had no idea - 18/08/2010 12:06:27 AM 1483 Views
Re: Really? I had no idea - 18/08/2010 12:24:54 AM 1516 Views
Hmm... - 18/08/2010 01:23:14 AM 1455 Views
I didn't even know I was responding to you. - 18/08/2010 04:08:36 AM 1428 Views
Thanks - 18/08/2010 04:23:47 AM 1422 Views
It happens...? - 18/08/2010 01:29:44 PM 1264 Views
knowing there's a strip club and "walking those streets"; seems like you've "gotten around" - 18/08/2010 02:03:14 AM 1480 Views
*NM* - 18/08/2010 04:10:10 AM 725 Views
They're building on the hallowed ground of a Burlington Coat Factory! - 17/08/2010 04:13:06 PM 1520 Views
how so? - 17/08/2010 04:14:17 PM 1352 Views
Maybe it's got something to do with Cordoba, Spain? - 17/08/2010 04:16:38 PM 1418 Views
From when the Moors conquered Spain - 17/08/2010 04:18:18 PM 1598 Views
ah mk. fair enough then. *NM* - 17/08/2010 04:35:39 PM 848 Views
to clarify though - 17/08/2010 04:50:19 PM 1393 Views
in that respect, I rather like the name *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:23:18 PM 789 Views
Yes, but you have to remember the mindset of those protesting. - 17/08/2010 09:49:26 PM 1478 Views
Oh indeed - 18/08/2010 10:20:45 AM 1506 Views
Oh, yeah. I foolishly assumed people would know that part. *NM* - 18/08/2010 05:34:39 PM 761 Views
Sorry, but the card says it was "the Moops" so you must be wrong. - 18/08/2010 03:56:11 PM 1446 Views
Aaaaaaaaagh - 18/08/2010 04:13:17 PM 1445 Views
*NM* - 18/08/2010 05:31:20 PM 722 Views
Or a Christian conquest of Islam, surely. - 17/08/2010 05:07:53 PM 1549 Views
Right on the button. *NM* - 17/08/2010 04:19:39 PM 736 Views
Ezra Klein made a good point in the Washington Post... - 17/08/2010 04:33:31 PM 1388 Views
Re: Ezra Klein made a good point in the Washington Post... - 17/08/2010 04:34:47 PM 1401 Views
it was a rhetorical question in his column - 17/08/2010 04:43:25 PM 1501 Views
that is hardly the same thing - 17/08/2010 04:56:43 PM 1478 Views
so suppose... - 17/08/2010 06:06:03 PM 1408 Views
I am sure it will I just don't see the relevance - 17/08/2010 06:57:41 PM 1521 Views
My question is, why would you want to put a mosque/community center/thing that close? - 17/08/2010 04:39:05 PM 1420 Views
angry New Yorkers? - 17/08/2010 04:45:01 PM 1530 Views
I was going to guess 4 protests to your earlier post. - 17/08/2010 04:50:08 PM 1504 Views
Re: angry New Yorkers? - 17/08/2010 04:53:58 PM 1442 Views
I was wondering about that. - 17/08/2010 04:56:28 PM 1544 Views
Re: I was wondering about that. - 17/08/2010 05:05:50 PM 1529 Views
interesting map, thanks for posting it. *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:55:06 PM 775 Views
That's a good point too and I didn't think about that. - 17/08/2010 05:39:53 PM 1615 Views
I think what this position misses - 17/08/2010 05:01:52 PM 1658 Views
Ok, sure. - 17/08/2010 06:09:33 PM 1529 Views
Hoboken? - 17/08/2010 09:06:07 PM 1356 Views
Indeed. Not a serious suggestion about putting it there. - 17/08/2010 09:13:35 PM 1355 Views
angry New Yorkers? Geez, we are more civilized than that, thank you. *NM* - 18/08/2010 12:01:12 AM 697 Views
not really *NM* - 18/08/2010 02:31:46 AM 619 Views
your opinion is noted. now go eff yourself. *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:11:25 AM 670 Views
that's pretty good - 18/08/2010 04:44:14 AM 1443 Views
and a heart fuck off to you but thanks for the ironic reply *NM* - 18/08/2010 03:18:25 PM 703 Views
How is it ironic? *NM* - 18/08/2010 03:43:50 PM 771 Views
How was his uncivilized response ironic? *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:18:17 PM 678 Views
Yes. Where is the irony? - 18/08/2010 04:20:57 PM 1390 Views
Re: How was his uncivilized response ironic? - 18/08/2010 04:23:25 PM 1379 Views
Aaah - 18/08/2010 04:31:02 PM 1449 Views
Re: Aaah - 18/08/2010 05:30:07 PM 1381 Views
Re: Aaah - 18/08/2010 05:38:47 PM 1445 Views
To both of you: her. And she. *NM* - 18/08/2010 05:44:03 PM 704 Views
I knew that. *NM* - 18/08/2010 05:45:21 PM 689 Views
I'm not a New Yorker. Not impuning your civility either. - 19/08/2010 02:45:55 AM 1625 Views
Something I'm confused on - 17/08/2010 04:59:41 PM 1712 Views
another thing to consider. - 17/08/2010 05:02:38 PM 1404 Views
You'll have to explain to me what that has to do with what I said - 17/08/2010 05:10:21 PM 1404 Views
I don't think anyone is saying it's not "near" ground zero. - 17/08/2010 05:12:52 PM 1502 Views
Of course you're confused. It was a tangental thought. - 17/08/2010 06:06:29 PM 1454 Views
On that tangent though, an interesting article - 17/08/2010 07:50:44 PM 1523 Views
I understand there's also a strip club and a xxx movie rental shop within that same 2 blocks radius. - 17/08/2010 05:09:26 PM 1495 Views
Looks like 2 or 3 blocks, I love Google Earth - 17/08/2010 05:17:01 PM 1532 Views
True but the buildings were not nocked down by radical strippers *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:52:04 PM 723 Views
Joss Whedon purchased the rights to this movie already. *NM* - 17/08/2010 06:29:34 PM 767 Views
*NM* - 17/08/2010 06:38:27 PM 698 Views
Yep. Is true. *NM* - 17/08/2010 11:59:31 PM 718 Views
What do strip clubs and dirty movies and gay bars have to do with 9/11? *NM* - 18/08/2010 12:33:59 AM 731 Views
Nothing, which is precisely the point. *NM* - 18/08/2010 12:37:52 AM 732 Views
Can you explain your point to me then? Because I'm not following it. - 18/08/2010 01:21:13 AM 1381 Views
Pretty much what Greg said. - 18/08/2010 09:39:33 AM 1457 Views
then you are missing the point - 18/08/2010 04:02:49 PM 1610 Views
In all fairness... - 18/08/2010 09:46:26 PM 1504 Views
these guys are not babes in the woods - 19/08/2010 12:28:24 PM 1340 Views
I never said they were. - 20/08/2010 04:56:53 AM 1507 Views
Respond/Double post. *NM* - 20/08/2010 04:57:25 AM 649 Views
This whole debate disgusts me. - 17/08/2010 05:24:56 PM 1654 Views
I'm not going to ask why. *NM* - 17/08/2010 06:21:13 PM 702 Views
Agreed - 17/08/2010 08:10:34 PM 1610 Views
Yep, I see a lot of ugliness in this discussion - 18/08/2010 11:42:34 AM 1419 Views
Jon Stewart made good point last night - 17/08/2010 05:34:19 PM 1526 Views
but it's the CONCEPT!!! practical effect is not the POINT of political debate!! *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:53:30 PM 722 Views
which is why Obama was crazy to get anywhere this issue - 17/08/2010 06:01:44 PM 1400 Views
He's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't - 17/08/2010 06:18:16 PM 1398 Views
that really isn't true - 17/08/2010 07:09:29 PM 1497 Views
yah he really should have just stayed mum about it - 17/08/2010 07:37:03 PM 1458 Views
Ye gods, I agree with you AND CELIA! - 18/08/2010 01:36:21 PM 1607 Views
double post - 17/08/2010 06:01:44 PM 1411 Views
Hatemongers gotta hate. - 17/08/2010 07:43:17 PM 1459 Views
More than anything, I see this being a sensitivity issue.... - 17/08/2010 07:43:45 PM 1432 Views
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Right on. - 17/08/2010 08:09:44 PM 1401 Views
yah, it sounds like the builders aren't being very thoughtful in their PR. - 17/08/2010 08:12:20 PM 1185 Views
yah, it sounds like the builders aren't being very thoughtful in their PR. - 17/08/2010 08:12:21 PM 1480 Views
are you serious? - 17/08/2010 08:01:01 PM 1544 Views
I think you got the point right there. - 17/08/2010 08:08:21 PM 1455 Views
Yes, I am... - 17/08/2010 08:14:27 PM 1436 Views
The point is your analogy does not hold - 17/08/2010 08:19:29 PM 1436 Views
Plus - 17/08/2010 08:26:36 PM 1503 Views
Yes. That. *NM* - 17/08/2010 08:28:14 PM 1338 Views
we should all learn pool saftey from pigeons and sparrows. - 17/08/2010 08:37:37 PM 1376 Views
Sicko! - 17/08/2010 08:48:05 PM 1416 Views
Re: Yes, I am... - 17/08/2010 08:42:27 PM 1525 Views
Just to be a pain in the... - 17/08/2010 09:10:11 PM 1470 Views
Aren't they? - 17/08/2010 09:19:58 PM 1525 Views
You may be interested in... - 17/08/2010 09:23:48 PM 1617 Views
*nods* So I was right.... - 17/08/2010 09:26:59 PM 1311 Views
actually, it depends on the extent of the burning. - 17/08/2010 11:01:11 PM 1374 Views
That is probably not fair - 17/08/2010 11:12:22 PM 1415 Views
I know! - 18/08/2010 03:06:25 AM 1426 Views
it's all relative. - 18/08/2010 03:33:35 AM 1588 Views
Using a touch of hyperbole, perhaps? - 18/08/2010 10:18:36 AM 1482 Views
I'm so proud of you for noticing! - 18/08/2010 10:48:14 AM 1547 Views
Just making sure you knew I wasn't mistaking your reply for a constructive one - 18/08/2010 12:08:41 PM 1404 Views
I give constuctive replies where they are due - 18/08/2010 12:30:42 PM 1493 Views
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Hey Snoop... - 18/08/2010 12:47:13 PM 1519 Views
What the hell were these people smoking? - 18/08/2010 02:14:44 PM 1599 Views
COMPLETELY unrelated point that I don't blame you for ignoring... - 19/08/2010 04:25:31 AM 1382 Views
And yet that's very close to what MADD and SADD do. - 18/08/2010 01:56:51 PM 1577 Views
you are right of course - 17/08/2010 08:22:23 PM 1418 Views
Re: you are right of course - 17/08/2010 08:34:31 PM 1575 Views
I agree. - 17/08/2010 08:46:07 PM 1385 Views
you could be correct but it still shows a lack of sensitivity - 17/08/2010 09:34:46 PM 1587 Views
I don't disagree that it's a sensitivity thing - 17/08/2010 08:10:01 PM 1568 Views
Re: I don't disagree that it's a sensitivity thing *NM* - 17/08/2010 08:29:59 PM 659 Views
This. - 17/08/2010 08:31:17 PM 1455 Views
So, you're saying muslims should leave nyc to show their sensitivity, right? - 17/08/2010 10:31:55 PM 1388 Views
so your saying you always speak in over the top rhetoric? - 18/08/2010 03:22:20 PM 1285 Views
Well explain what the difference is, then - 18/08/2010 07:14:46 PM 1428 Views
not really sure how to start - 18/08/2010 08:23:34 PM 1486 Views
THANK YOU - 18/08/2010 01:13:16 AM 1521 Views
Take deep breaths.. - 18/08/2010 05:25:16 AM 1455 Views
Typing a post didn't really require all that much effort - 18/08/2010 06:13:15 AM 1512 Views
There are more important things in the world to worry about - 18/08/2010 08:51:35 AM 1508 Views
I do get angry over other things, you know - 18/08/2010 10:02:02 AM 1456 Views
Pretty much, yeah. - 18/08/2010 09:00:09 PM 1462 Views
: - 18/08/2010 02:52:51 PM 1600 Views
So what, the Americans supporting this mosque are "arrogant European pricks"? - 18/08/2010 10:12:51 AM 1319 Views
Kind of a stretch for you to make that assumption - 18/08/2010 11:31:16 AM 1513 Views
I hadn't read that other exchange yet, it made more sense after that. - 18/08/2010 12:35:18 PM 1556 Views
A mosque was built in the Pentagon months after 9/11 - 18/08/2010 01:23:11 AM 1492 Views
Here comes the "xenophobia card." - 18/08/2010 01:27:50 AM 1547 Views
Which is why there was a bombing at another mosque earlier this year - 18/08/2010 01:31:51 AM 1436 Views
So? - 18/08/2010 01:39:49 AM 1516 Views
Re: A mosque was built in the Pentagon months after 9/11 - 18/08/2010 01:28:44 AM 1570 Views
Re: A mosque was built in the Pentagon months after 9/11 - 18/08/2010 01:34:22 AM 1522 Views
A guy on CNN made a really good point about this - 17/08/2010 08:46:54 PM 1562 Views
hmm yes but that black man hadn't killed his dog - 17/08/2010 09:22:15 PM 1471 Views
Re: hmm yes but that black man hadn't killed his dog - 17/08/2010 10:32:24 PM 1605 Views
precisely. - 17/08/2010 11:20:06 PM 1340 Views
Re: precisely. - 18/08/2010 01:32:09 AM 1464 Views
Re: precisely. - 18/08/2010 09:10:33 AM 1439 Views
not surprising that a guy on CNN made that point - 17/08/2010 09:38:16 PM 1541 Views
Yeah this whole debate is pretty pointless to be completely honest - 17/08/2010 10:28:13 PM 1495 Views
An interesting point - 18/08/2010 03:44:52 AM 1515 Views
In fairness, it's extremely hard to draw that line sometimes. - 18/08/2010 10:27:24 AM 1424 Views
well we have been shot at from enough mosque to make it hard to tell at times - 18/08/2010 08:25:58 PM 1481 Views
I think this whole debate has made American look bad. - 17/08/2010 10:58:23 PM 1408 Views
So what? - 18/08/2010 12:28:40 AM 1478 Views
Okay, so we're no longer the land of religous tolerance. - 18/08/2010 04:09:24 AM 1665 Views
Were we ever? - 18/08/2010 04:18:16 AM 1634 Views
I guess not. - 18/08/2010 04:25:03 AM 1577 Views
Re: I guess not. - 18/08/2010 05:56:49 AM 1455 Views
Re: I guess not. - 18/08/2010 10:43:05 AM 1442 Views
Re: I guess not. - 18/08/2010 12:13:37 PM 1274 Views
Re: I guess not. - 18/08/2010 09:30:21 PM 1403 Views
Yes, we were. - 18/08/2010 02:34:39 PM 1447 Views
Olberman's Special Comment on this one hits the nail on the head - 18/08/2010 01:29:45 AM 1554 Views
love that the Olberman video, but Jon Stewart did an awesome job too. *NM* - 18/08/2010 01:32:59 AM 673 Views
Olbermann and Stewart are possibly the two best people alive *NM* - 18/08/2010 02:39:48 AM 760 Views
they make the top of my list for people I wnat to catch an STD *NM* - 18/08/2010 08:27:27 PM 692 Views
Let me just say... - 18/08/2010 09:20:38 PM 1509 Views
Re: Let me just say... - 18/08/2010 09:22:12 PM 1480 Views
I didn't watch that particular video, so maybe, yeah. *NM* - 18/08/2010 10:11:22 PM 729 Views
Re: I didn't watch that particular video, so maybe, yeah. - 18/08/2010 10:45:54 PM 1501 Views
O'Reilly isn't as bad as he's made out to be. (edit) - 18/08/2010 11:10:33 PM 1546 Views
I'm pretty sure I agree with you. - 18/08/2010 10:48:09 PM 1393 Views
Why is it weird? - 18/08/2010 11:00:20 PM 1455 Views
dayum! thats like the ultimate insult *NM* - 19/08/2010 03:37:53 AM 672 Views
Stewart is great, but Olberman? You can't be serious. *NM* - 18/08/2010 11:23:17 PM 770 Views
I love that poem - 18/08/2010 12:26:58 PM 1576 Views
I used to be so Idealistic to think this was AMERICA. - 18/08/2010 01:44:38 AM 1542 Views
It is America - 18/08/2010 01:49:35 AM 1525 Views
the key phrase is "congress shall make no law...." - 18/08/2010 02:23:53 AM 1570 Views
14th ammendment changed that *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:51:08 AM 697 Views
14th ammendment established a state religion? - 18/08/2010 08:14:11 AM 1362 Views
No, but the Equal Protection Clause extended much of the BoR to the states. - 18/08/2010 02:50:31 PM 1493 Views
did you go the the Huffington Post school of law? - 18/08/2010 03:29:14 PM 1429 Views
No, but I've spent more time around lawyers than I care to admit. - 18/08/2010 03:45:36 PM 1516 Views
the defendent doesn't always get a complete picture *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:25:36 PM 707 Views
The only time I was ever in a courtroom was as a spectator. - 19/08/2010 04:33:56 PM 1506 Views
It was meant to be a short comment - 19/08/2010 01:13:39 AM 1552 Views
we also have freedom of speech - 18/08/2010 03:25:52 PM 1410 Views
The connection is inevitable and, I think, deliberate. - 18/08/2010 01:15:41 PM 1624 Views
Hmm - 18/08/2010 02:26:17 PM 1377 Views
Bottom line is it may be in everyones interest to DISassociate Islam from 911. - 18/08/2010 02:58:17 PM 1457 Views
No, bottom line is people need to be able to keep to thoughts in their brains at any given time *NM* - 18/08/2010 03:31:03 PM 689 Views
You mean retain both "I want to promote Islam" AND "Dude, Ground Zero is right THERE! *points*" - 18/08/2010 03:36:34 PM 1418 Views
No - 18/08/2010 03:43:08 PM 1472 Views
They clearly are tied to it. - 18/08/2010 03:59:45 PM 1495 Views
How long ago were the Crusades? - 18/08/2010 03:48:53 PM 1382 Views
Re: How long ago were the Crusades? - 18/08/2010 03:52:23 PM 1427 Views
So wait... - 18/08/2010 04:09:10 PM 1366 Views
Yes, Jerodam. Christians are good. All the rest are bad. I see it now. - 18/08/2010 04:10:47 PM 1457 Views
Stop freaking out Camilla. You are such a drama queen some times. - 18/08/2010 04:15:06 PM 1454 Views
That is not drama. That is fed up. *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:16:32 PM 790 Views
You're not the only one who is fed up.... - 18/08/2010 04:24:27 PM 1262 Views
*giggle* - 18/08/2010 04:29:03 PM 1461 Views
We don't know that.... - 18/08/2010 05:40:25 PM 1441 Views
We do - 18/08/2010 05:49:33 PM 1564 Views
Re: You're not the only one who is fed up.... - 18/08/2010 04:38:04 PM 1481 Views
This may be nitpicking, but I'll do it anyway because it's a widespread misconception... - 18/08/2010 04:30:20 PM 1402 Views
THANK YOU! - 18/08/2010 06:11:52 PM 1343 Views
Re: So wait... - 18/08/2010 04:45:53 PM 1414 Views
maybe it is actions that led to the crusades that never ended - 19/08/2010 12:25:20 PM 1339 Views
I have to agree with Jeo that that's unfair. - 19/08/2010 02:47:23 PM 1628 Views
The Crusades were by Christendom as a whole*, 9-11 isn't similar for Islam by some way - 18/08/2010 04:04:54 PM 1424 Views
Depends whom you ask, when and where. - 19/08/2010 03:06:18 PM 1369 Views
Right - 20/08/2010 10:31:21 AM 1432 Views
Some people will always wonder about such things; we're still accused of "Crusading" today. - 18/08/2010 04:07:02 PM 1448 Views
I don't disagree about the outreach, as such, but a remark... - 18/08/2010 04:37:52 PM 1316 Views
It's as much a local issue as the theme park Disney wanted to build at Gettysburg. - 19/08/2010 03:15:03 PM 1349 Views
Have you ever BEEN to Gettysburg? - 19/08/2010 05:21:18 PM 1285 Views
A bit more background information - 18/08/2010 05:30:04 PM 1574 Views
That's informative, thanks, but I'm not sure it really changes anything. - 19/08/2010 03:27:05 PM 1383 Views
Step One: Manufacture controversey by means of misinformation (i.e. Mosque at Ground Zero) - 19/08/2010 06:40:49 PM 1563 Views
To be fair - 20/08/2010 10:38:01 AM 1507 Views
The location of this mosque is a horrid idea. - 21/08/2010 05:34:58 PM 1367 Views
"Think of it as a center for muslim hippies." - 18/08/2010 09:30:55 PM 1503 Views
Can I just say... - 19/08/2010 01:45:38 AM 1335 Views
i have a side bar *NM* - 19/08/2010 03:36:10 AM 619 Views
you must have a teeny screen or a bad resolution - 19/08/2010 05:03:57 AM 1420 Views
I know. - 19/08/2010 12:20:11 PM 1478 Views
Roughly 2 football fields, yes. And around a corner - 19/08/2010 03:17:24 PM 1442 Views
Two hundred yards is nothing. - 19/08/2010 04:44:34 PM 1378 Views
Sure it is - it's two large city blocks - 19/08/2010 05:15:46 PM 1443 Views
It's two fairly average city blocks, and not even that some places. - 21/08/2010 06:07:33 PM 1411 Views
Well you can not like it if you choose - 25/08/2010 03:39:49 PM 1816 Views
You keep stating that this isn't about Islam. - 20/08/2010 11:06:10 AM 1503 Views
That's because it's not. - 21/08/2010 06:17:29 PM 1519 Views

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