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I'm not a New Yorker. Not impuning your civility either. StormCrow Send a noteboard - 19/08/2010 02:45:55 AM
I'm not plugged into what people are thinking there, but every poll I've seen about this project (some results in the link below) shows fairly substantial opposition to the project (from New Yorkers and elsewhere). With something as charged as this has become, makes me wonder that there wouldn't be a threat of protests turning nasty or vandalism, etc. placing it this close to ground zero. I (if it was my personal project) would be hesitant to start a project like that where 60-70% of the local people oppose it even being there.

If I'm misunderstanding the feelings of the people in the city (as you and others are telling me I am) then my question/statement really doesn't matter. If no one in New York cares, I wouldn't have concerns from their perspective about putting at that specific site.

Oh, and in your other reply. I didn't mean to suggest that they should avoid building there in fear that the odd madman would do something drastic to the place (whether that nut-job is from NYC or the bible belt), just that there's a chance it could still happen as the debate sinks to new levels and people get more agitated about it.

Hope that made more sense.
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Wait, wait WAIT! The location for the so-called "mosque at ground zero" is actually 2 blocks away?! - 17/08/2010 03:19:02 PM 2715 Views
it's still too close!! IT'S TOO CLOSE I SAY - 17/08/2010 03:23:12 PM 1686 Views
*NM* - 18/08/2010 11:40:26 AM 766 Views
Yes, it is. - 17/08/2010 03:23:33 PM 1715 Views
Another stupid question...is it even actually a mosque? - 17/08/2010 03:28:37 PM 1548 Views
I've heard the same. - 17/08/2010 03:30:36 PM 1473 Views
So - 17/08/2010 03:35:43 PM 1592 Views
blog link - 17/08/2010 03:41:43 PM 1829 Views
that's correct *NM* - 17/08/2010 03:51:38 PM 758 Views
it's both from what I've heard. - 17/08/2010 04:00:54 PM 1472 Views
sort of like most churches, mosques and temples? *NM* - 17/08/2010 04:04:12 PM 754 Views
mmm, i think more like... - 17/08/2010 04:08:55 PM 1458 Views
it is a community center with a mosque - 17/08/2010 04:28:08 PM 1365 Views
A memorial! - 17/08/2010 04:58:52 PM 1585 Views
it is a community center with a mosque - 17/08/2010 04:28:09 PM 1521 Views
my wife's church has a play ground and community center - 17/08/2010 04:47:52 PM 1481 Views
okay, cool then - 17/08/2010 05:17:04 PM 1309 Views
I was just being nit picky - 17/08/2010 05:44:36 PM 1313 Views
Been hearing a lot on NPR - 17/08/2010 03:32:42 PM 1550 Views
I could see it being insensitive if it were actually where the towers used to be. - 17/08/2010 03:43:18 PM 1639 Views
Yeah. - 17/08/2010 03:51:13 PM 1559 Views
precisely. - 17/08/2010 04:02:44 PM 1416 Views
you should probably keep in mind.... - 17/08/2010 04:02:25 PM 1570 Views
So - 17/08/2010 04:06:18 PM 1624 Views
don't use that term at all. Say WTC. *NM* - 18/08/2010 12:27:32 AM 769 Views
I know. - 17/08/2010 04:26:19 PM 1472 Views
it certainly has turned into a political land mine for Obama... - 17/08/2010 03:54:03 PM 1486 Views
True - 17/08/2010 04:02:04 PM 1300 Views
unfortunately... - 17/08/2010 04:05:08 PM 1437 Views
That's because they are pussies. - 17/08/2010 04:10:59 PM 1598 Views
This is beginning to sound familiar. - 17/08/2010 05:18:37 PM 1673 Views
with the senate majority leader weighing it I don't believe it is all how it is mostly on the right - 17/08/2010 05:58:10 PM 1559 Views
Seems we disagree on that, then. - 17/08/2010 06:05:33 PM 1530 Views
hardly the first time - 17/08/2010 06:56:33 PM 1516 Views
Well, since day 1 of this whole debate alot of the opposition has come from the right. - 17/08/2010 10:50:49 PM 1560 Views
you assume it is pandering maybe they just agree with the majority - 18/08/2010 02:30:53 AM 1459 Views
I'm not saying it's a partisan issue, but it has turned political for all the wrong reasons. - 18/08/2010 04:18:49 AM 1639 Views
is the idea that it is not to close to ground zero the misinformation you are refering to? - 18/08/2010 03:09:17 PM 1471 Views
Well, it's not like they're literally on ground zero. - 18/08/2010 08:54:08 PM 1639 Views
ground zero is defined as where the old WTC complex was - 19/08/2010 12:23:32 PM 1445 Views
And anything within a 3 block radius apparently? - 20/08/2010 04:44:25 AM 1501 Views
Guess which of them will be out of a job in January? - 18/08/2010 01:22:49 PM 1487 Views
the only reason Obama won't be out of job is he isn't running - 18/08/2010 03:10:58 PM 1445 Views
Oh, I dunno if you could translate the current numbers into Obamas defeat. - 18/08/2010 03:52:18 PM 1503 Views
Bush's numbers were much better in 04 then Obama's are now - 18/08/2010 04:11:31 PM 1599 Views
Perhaps so then. - 19/08/2010 04:51:36 PM 1487 Views
it was a large event so two half blocks really is pretty damn close - 17/08/2010 04:03:17 PM 1588 Views
Here's a map of the site for perspective - 17/08/2010 04:08:41 PM 1645 Views
so 2 blocks from the superblock then? - 17/08/2010 04:13:03 PM 1695 Views
I guess, superblock is an obscure term to this country lad - 17/08/2010 04:41:11 PM 1463 Views
It may not necessarily matter to people who are aware of that fact. - 17/08/2010 05:13:12 PM 1447 Views
mk, well, to my mind (being from phoeni, 1 full city block is about 1 mile. - 17/08/2010 05:15:49 PM 1505 Views
A mile is a serious exaggeration, surely. - 17/08/2010 05:24:48 PM 1626 Views
Remember, I did say in Phoenix - 17/08/2010 05:27:43 PM 1550 Views
I really need to see Phoenix some day. - 17/08/2010 05:32:40 PM 1543 Views
i still think houston is more spread out than phoenix - 18/08/2010 08:21:10 AM 1538 Views
unless you go far enough west of course - 18/08/2010 03:30:45 PM 1406 Views
most of california is pretty spread out, city-wise. - 19/08/2010 02:16:44 AM 1368 Views
true, I was think along the lines of San Fransico - 19/08/2010 03:47:12 AM 1453 Views
Absolutely. - 17/08/2010 05:28:38 PM 1531 Views
In NYC, generally 1 mile = 20 blocks *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:25:21 PM 810 Views
Okay. I guess i just forget how much larger Phoenix is *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:28:13 PM 723 Views
Google Earth says 500 feet between mosque and GZ *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:30:59 PM 738 Views
Clarify: 500 ft between the mosque and the border of the area on the map? *NM* - 17/08/2010 07:03:51 PM 729 Views
Probably, given my corner-to-corner result. *NM* - 17/08/2010 07:26:19 PM 757 Views
Yes, down West Broadway (contains old ground view from site) - 17/08/2010 07:31:58 PM 1675 Views
Personally, I think this supports Ave's point. - 17/08/2010 04:16:15 PM 1557 Views
yes... - 17/08/2010 04:29:51 PM 1571 Views
Right. - 17/08/2010 04:31:29 PM 1512 Views
Believe me, honey. - 17/08/2010 04:32:47 PM 1371 Views
- 17/08/2010 04:37:19 PM 1428 Views
You know what else is on Park Place? A strip club. - 17/08/2010 11:58:56 PM 1441 Views
Really? I had no idea - 18/08/2010 12:06:27 AM 1502 Views
Re: Really? I had no idea - 18/08/2010 12:24:54 AM 1538 Views
Hmm... - 18/08/2010 01:23:14 AM 1475 Views
I didn't even know I was responding to you. - 18/08/2010 04:08:36 AM 1449 Views
Thanks - 18/08/2010 04:23:47 AM 1441 Views
It happens...? - 18/08/2010 01:29:44 PM 1283 Views
knowing there's a strip club and "walking those streets"; seems like you've "gotten around" - 18/08/2010 02:03:14 AM 1497 Views
*NM* - 18/08/2010 04:10:10 AM 735 Views
They're building on the hallowed ground of a Burlington Coat Factory! - 17/08/2010 04:13:06 PM 1537 Views
how so? - 17/08/2010 04:14:17 PM 1366 Views
Maybe it's got something to do with Cordoba, Spain? - 17/08/2010 04:16:38 PM 1445 Views
From when the Moors conquered Spain - 17/08/2010 04:18:18 PM 1620 Views
ah mk. fair enough then. *NM* - 17/08/2010 04:35:39 PM 855 Views
to clarify though - 17/08/2010 04:50:19 PM 1411 Views
in that respect, I rather like the name *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:23:18 PM 798 Views
Yes, but you have to remember the mindset of those protesting. - 17/08/2010 09:49:26 PM 1494 Views
Oh indeed - 18/08/2010 10:20:45 AM 1523 Views
Oh, yeah. I foolishly assumed people would know that part. *NM* - 18/08/2010 05:34:39 PM 768 Views
Sorry, but the card says it was "the Moops" so you must be wrong. - 18/08/2010 03:56:11 PM 1465 Views
Aaaaaaaaagh - 18/08/2010 04:13:17 PM 1461 Views
*NM* - 18/08/2010 05:31:20 PM 733 Views
Or a Christian conquest of Islam, surely. - 17/08/2010 05:07:53 PM 1567 Views
Right on the button. *NM* - 17/08/2010 04:19:39 PM 747 Views
Ezra Klein made a good point in the Washington Post... - 17/08/2010 04:33:31 PM 1409 Views
Re: Ezra Klein made a good point in the Washington Post... - 17/08/2010 04:34:47 PM 1422 Views
it was a rhetorical question in his column - 17/08/2010 04:43:25 PM 1547 Views
that is hardly the same thing - 17/08/2010 04:56:43 PM 1498 Views
so suppose... - 17/08/2010 06:06:03 PM 1430 Views
I am sure it will I just don't see the relevance - 17/08/2010 06:57:41 PM 1544 Views
My question is, why would you want to put a mosque/community center/thing that close? - 17/08/2010 04:39:05 PM 1440 Views
angry New Yorkers? - 17/08/2010 04:45:01 PM 1547 Views
I was going to guess 4 protests to your earlier post. - 17/08/2010 04:50:08 PM 1521 Views
Re: angry New Yorkers? - 17/08/2010 04:53:58 PM 1471 Views
I was wondering about that. - 17/08/2010 04:56:28 PM 1560 Views
Re: I was wondering about that. - 17/08/2010 05:05:50 PM 1544 Views
interesting map, thanks for posting it. *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:55:06 PM 785 Views
That's a good point too and I didn't think about that. - 17/08/2010 05:39:53 PM 1635 Views
I think what this position misses - 17/08/2010 05:01:52 PM 1674 Views
Ok, sure. - 17/08/2010 06:09:33 PM 1549 Views
Hoboken? - 17/08/2010 09:06:07 PM 1389 Views
Indeed. Not a serious suggestion about putting it there. - 17/08/2010 09:13:35 PM 1371 Views
angry New Yorkers? Geez, we are more civilized than that, thank you. *NM* - 18/08/2010 12:01:12 AM 707 Views
not really *NM* - 18/08/2010 02:31:46 AM 628 Views
your opinion is noted. now go eff yourself. *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:11:25 AM 682 Views
that's pretty good - 18/08/2010 04:44:14 AM 1462 Views
and a heart fuck off to you but thanks for the ironic reply *NM* - 18/08/2010 03:18:25 PM 714 Views
How is it ironic? *NM* - 18/08/2010 03:43:50 PM 782 Views
How was his uncivilized response ironic? *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:18:17 PM 689 Views
Yes. Where is the irony? - 18/08/2010 04:20:57 PM 1411 Views
Re: How was his uncivilized response ironic? - 18/08/2010 04:23:25 PM 1401 Views
Aaah - 18/08/2010 04:31:02 PM 1464 Views
Re: Aaah - 18/08/2010 05:30:07 PM 1399 Views
Re: Aaah - 18/08/2010 05:38:47 PM 1461 Views
To both of you: her. And she. *NM* - 18/08/2010 05:44:03 PM 715 Views
I knew that. *NM* - 18/08/2010 05:45:21 PM 699 Views
I'm not a New Yorker. Not impuning your civility either. - 19/08/2010 02:45:55 AM 1647 Views
Something I'm confused on - 17/08/2010 04:59:41 PM 1743 Views
another thing to consider. - 17/08/2010 05:02:38 PM 1421 Views
You'll have to explain to me what that has to do with what I said - 17/08/2010 05:10:21 PM 1428 Views
I don't think anyone is saying it's not "near" ground zero. - 17/08/2010 05:12:52 PM 1540 Views
Of course you're confused. It was a tangental thought. - 17/08/2010 06:06:29 PM 1478 Views
On that tangent though, an interesting article - 17/08/2010 07:50:44 PM 1553 Views
I understand there's also a strip club and a xxx movie rental shop within that same 2 blocks radius. - 17/08/2010 05:09:26 PM 1514 Views
Looks like 2 or 3 blocks, I love Google Earth - 17/08/2010 05:17:01 PM 1548 Views
True but the buildings were not nocked down by radical strippers *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:52:04 PM 733 Views
Joss Whedon purchased the rights to this movie already. *NM* - 17/08/2010 06:29:34 PM 792 Views
*NM* - 17/08/2010 06:38:27 PM 708 Views
Yep. Is true. *NM* - 17/08/2010 11:59:31 PM 728 Views
What do strip clubs and dirty movies and gay bars have to do with 9/11? *NM* - 18/08/2010 12:33:59 AM 742 Views
Nothing, which is precisely the point. *NM* - 18/08/2010 12:37:52 AM 743 Views
Can you explain your point to me then? Because I'm not following it. - 18/08/2010 01:21:13 AM 1395 Views
Pretty much what Greg said. - 18/08/2010 09:39:33 AM 1477 Views
then you are missing the point - 18/08/2010 04:02:49 PM 1634 Views
In all fairness... - 18/08/2010 09:46:26 PM 1520 Views
these guys are not babes in the woods - 19/08/2010 12:28:24 PM 1355 Views
I never said they were. - 20/08/2010 04:56:53 AM 1526 Views
Respond/Double post. *NM* - 20/08/2010 04:57:25 AM 658 Views
This whole debate disgusts me. - 17/08/2010 05:24:56 PM 1669 Views
I'm not going to ask why. *NM* - 17/08/2010 06:21:13 PM 712 Views
Agreed - 17/08/2010 08:10:34 PM 1626 Views
Yep, I see a lot of ugliness in this discussion - 18/08/2010 11:42:34 AM 1436 Views
Jon Stewart made good point last night - 17/08/2010 05:34:19 PM 1549 Views
but it's the CONCEPT!!! practical effect is not the POINT of political debate!! *NM* - 17/08/2010 05:53:30 PM 731 Views
which is why Obama was crazy to get anywhere this issue - 17/08/2010 06:01:44 PM 1420 Views
He's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't - 17/08/2010 06:18:16 PM 1419 Views
that really isn't true - 17/08/2010 07:09:29 PM 1519 Views
yah he really should have just stayed mum about it - 17/08/2010 07:37:03 PM 1478 Views
Ye gods, I agree with you AND CELIA! - 18/08/2010 01:36:21 PM 1626 Views
double post - 17/08/2010 06:01:44 PM 1429 Views
Hatemongers gotta hate. - 17/08/2010 07:43:17 PM 1475 Views
More than anything, I see this being a sensitivity issue.... - 17/08/2010 07:43:45 PM 1452 Views
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Right on. - 17/08/2010 08:09:44 PM 1426 Views
yah, it sounds like the builders aren't being very thoughtful in their PR. - 17/08/2010 08:12:20 PM 1200 Views
yah, it sounds like the builders aren't being very thoughtful in their PR. - 17/08/2010 08:12:21 PM 1498 Views
are you serious? - 17/08/2010 08:01:01 PM 1561 Views
I think you got the point right there. - 17/08/2010 08:08:21 PM 1471 Views
Yes, I am... - 17/08/2010 08:14:27 PM 1453 Views
The point is your analogy does not hold - 17/08/2010 08:19:29 PM 1473 Views
Plus - 17/08/2010 08:26:36 PM 1531 Views
Yes. That. *NM* - 17/08/2010 08:28:14 PM 1356 Views
we should all learn pool saftey from pigeons and sparrows. - 17/08/2010 08:37:37 PM 1397 Views
Sicko! - 17/08/2010 08:48:05 PM 1430 Views
Re: Yes, I am... - 17/08/2010 08:42:27 PM 1562 Views
Just to be a pain in the... - 17/08/2010 09:10:11 PM 1492 Views
Aren't they? - 17/08/2010 09:19:58 PM 1547 Views
You may be interested in... - 17/08/2010 09:23:48 PM 1638 Views
*nods* So I was right.... - 17/08/2010 09:26:59 PM 1335 Views
actually, it depends on the extent of the burning. - 17/08/2010 11:01:11 PM 1394 Views
That is probably not fair - 17/08/2010 11:12:22 PM 1433 Views
I know! - 18/08/2010 03:06:25 AM 1445 Views
it's all relative. - 18/08/2010 03:33:35 AM 1609 Views
Using a touch of hyperbole, perhaps? - 18/08/2010 10:18:36 AM 1497 Views
I'm so proud of you for noticing! - 18/08/2010 10:48:14 AM 1563 Views
Just making sure you knew I wasn't mistaking your reply for a constructive one - 18/08/2010 12:08:41 PM 1424 Views
I give constuctive replies where they are due - 18/08/2010 12:30:42 PM 1512 Views
- 18/08/2010 12:33:57 PM 1493 Views
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Hey Snoop... - 18/08/2010 12:47:13 PM 1537 Views
What the hell were these people smoking? - 18/08/2010 02:14:44 PM 1622 Views
COMPLETELY unrelated point that I don't blame you for ignoring... - 19/08/2010 04:25:31 AM 1400 Views
And yet that's very close to what MADD and SADD do. - 18/08/2010 01:56:51 PM 1595 Views
you are right of course - 17/08/2010 08:22:23 PM 1438 Views
Re: you are right of course - 17/08/2010 08:34:31 PM 1594 Views
I agree. - 17/08/2010 08:46:07 PM 1401 Views
you could be correct but it still shows a lack of sensitivity - 17/08/2010 09:34:46 PM 1607 Views
I don't disagree that it's a sensitivity thing - 17/08/2010 08:10:01 PM 1584 Views
Re: I don't disagree that it's a sensitivity thing *NM* - 17/08/2010 08:29:59 PM 667 Views
This. - 17/08/2010 08:31:17 PM 1478 Views
So, you're saying muslims should leave nyc to show their sensitivity, right? - 17/08/2010 10:31:55 PM 1423 Views
so your saying you always speak in over the top rhetoric? - 18/08/2010 03:22:20 PM 1304 Views
Well explain what the difference is, then - 18/08/2010 07:14:46 PM 1446 Views
not really sure how to start - 18/08/2010 08:23:34 PM 1507 Views
THANK YOU - 18/08/2010 01:13:16 AM 1543 Views
Take deep breaths.. - 18/08/2010 05:25:16 AM 1470 Views
Typing a post didn't really require all that much effort - 18/08/2010 06:13:15 AM 1534 Views
There are more important things in the world to worry about - 18/08/2010 08:51:35 AM 1525 Views
I do get angry over other things, you know - 18/08/2010 10:02:02 AM 1471 Views
Pretty much, yeah. - 18/08/2010 09:00:09 PM 1479 Views
: - 18/08/2010 02:52:51 PM 1619 Views
So what, the Americans supporting this mosque are "arrogant European pricks"? - 18/08/2010 10:12:51 AM 1338 Views
Kind of a stretch for you to make that assumption - 18/08/2010 11:31:16 AM 1534 Views
I hadn't read that other exchange yet, it made more sense after that. - 18/08/2010 12:35:18 PM 1576 Views
A mosque was built in the Pentagon months after 9/11 - 18/08/2010 01:23:11 AM 1509 Views
Here comes the "xenophobia card." - 18/08/2010 01:27:50 AM 1567 Views
Which is why there was a bombing at another mosque earlier this year - 18/08/2010 01:31:51 AM 1451 Views
So? - 18/08/2010 01:39:49 AM 1546 Views
Re: A mosque was built in the Pentagon months after 9/11 - 18/08/2010 01:28:44 AM 1590 Views
Re: A mosque was built in the Pentagon months after 9/11 - 18/08/2010 01:34:22 AM 1546 Views
A guy on CNN made a really good point about this - 17/08/2010 08:46:54 PM 1582 Views
hmm yes but that black man hadn't killed his dog - 17/08/2010 09:22:15 PM 1491 Views
Re: hmm yes but that black man hadn't killed his dog - 17/08/2010 10:32:24 PM 1623 Views
precisely. - 17/08/2010 11:20:06 PM 1356 Views
Re: precisely. - 18/08/2010 01:32:09 AM 1479 Views
Re: precisely. - 18/08/2010 09:10:33 AM 1457 Views
not surprising that a guy on CNN made that point - 17/08/2010 09:38:16 PM 1560 Views
Yeah this whole debate is pretty pointless to be completely honest - 17/08/2010 10:28:13 PM 1511 Views
An interesting point - 18/08/2010 03:44:52 AM 1531 Views
In fairness, it's extremely hard to draw that line sometimes. - 18/08/2010 10:27:24 AM 1449 Views
well we have been shot at from enough mosque to make it hard to tell at times - 18/08/2010 08:25:58 PM 1496 Views
I think this whole debate has made American look bad. - 17/08/2010 10:58:23 PM 1422 Views
So what? - 18/08/2010 12:28:40 AM 1497 Views
Okay, so we're no longer the land of religous tolerance. - 18/08/2010 04:09:24 AM 1686 Views
Were we ever? - 18/08/2010 04:18:16 AM 1645 Views
I guess not. - 18/08/2010 04:25:03 AM 1598 Views
Re: I guess not. - 18/08/2010 05:56:49 AM 1477 Views
Re: I guess not. - 18/08/2010 10:43:05 AM 1467 Views
Re: I guess not. - 18/08/2010 12:13:37 PM 1289 Views
Re: I guess not. - 18/08/2010 09:30:21 PM 1423 Views
Yes, we were. - 18/08/2010 02:34:39 PM 1474 Views
Olberman's Special Comment on this one hits the nail on the head - 18/08/2010 01:29:45 AM 1577 Views
love that the Olberman video, but Jon Stewart did an awesome job too. *NM* - 18/08/2010 01:32:59 AM 681 Views
Olbermann and Stewart are possibly the two best people alive *NM* - 18/08/2010 02:39:48 AM 769 Views
they make the top of my list for people I wnat to catch an STD *NM* - 18/08/2010 08:27:27 PM 700 Views
Let me just say... - 18/08/2010 09:20:38 PM 1524 Views
Re: Let me just say... - 18/08/2010 09:22:12 PM 1501 Views
I didn't watch that particular video, so maybe, yeah. *NM* - 18/08/2010 10:11:22 PM 738 Views
Re: I didn't watch that particular video, so maybe, yeah. - 18/08/2010 10:45:54 PM 1518 Views
O'Reilly isn't as bad as he's made out to be. (edit) - 18/08/2010 11:10:33 PM 1572 Views
I'm pretty sure I agree with you. - 18/08/2010 10:48:09 PM 1425 Views
Why is it weird? - 18/08/2010 11:00:20 PM 1472 Views
dayum! thats like the ultimate insult *NM* - 19/08/2010 03:37:53 AM 685 Views
Stewart is great, but Olberman? You can't be serious. *NM* - 18/08/2010 11:23:17 PM 781 Views
I love that poem - 18/08/2010 12:26:58 PM 1588 Views
I used to be so Idealistic to think this was AMERICA. - 18/08/2010 01:44:38 AM 1562 Views
It is America - 18/08/2010 01:49:35 AM 1542 Views
the key phrase is "congress shall make no law...." - 18/08/2010 02:23:53 AM 1586 Views
14th ammendment changed that *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:51:08 AM 725 Views
14th ammendment established a state religion? - 18/08/2010 08:14:11 AM 1383 Views
No, but the Equal Protection Clause extended much of the BoR to the states. - 18/08/2010 02:50:31 PM 1513 Views
did you go the the Huffington Post school of law? - 18/08/2010 03:29:14 PM 1454 Views
No, but I've spent more time around lawyers than I care to admit. - 18/08/2010 03:45:36 PM 1534 Views
the defendent doesn't always get a complete picture *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:25:36 PM 719 Views
The only time I was ever in a courtroom was as a spectator. - 19/08/2010 04:33:56 PM 1523 Views
It was meant to be a short comment - 19/08/2010 01:13:39 AM 1572 Views
we also have freedom of speech - 18/08/2010 03:25:52 PM 1442 Views
The connection is inevitable and, I think, deliberate. - 18/08/2010 01:15:41 PM 1647 Views
Hmm - 18/08/2010 02:26:17 PM 1395 Views
Bottom line is it may be in everyones interest to DISassociate Islam from 911. - 18/08/2010 02:58:17 PM 1477 Views
No, bottom line is people need to be able to keep to thoughts in their brains at any given time *NM* - 18/08/2010 03:31:03 PM 699 Views
You mean retain both "I want to promote Islam" AND "Dude, Ground Zero is right THERE! *points*" - 18/08/2010 03:36:34 PM 1433 Views
No - 18/08/2010 03:43:08 PM 1486 Views
They clearly are tied to it. - 18/08/2010 03:59:45 PM 1517 Views
How long ago were the Crusades? - 18/08/2010 03:48:53 PM 1403 Views
Re: How long ago were the Crusades? - 18/08/2010 03:52:23 PM 1444 Views
So wait... - 18/08/2010 04:09:10 PM 1385 Views
Yes, Jerodam. Christians are good. All the rest are bad. I see it now. - 18/08/2010 04:10:47 PM 1477 Views
Stop freaking out Camilla. You are such a drama queen some times. - 18/08/2010 04:15:06 PM 1474 Views
That is not drama. That is fed up. *NM* - 18/08/2010 04:16:32 PM 798 Views
You're not the only one who is fed up.... - 18/08/2010 04:24:27 PM 1279 Views
*giggle* - 18/08/2010 04:29:03 PM 1484 Views
We don't know that.... - 18/08/2010 05:40:25 PM 1459 Views
We do - 18/08/2010 05:49:33 PM 1584 Views
Re: You're not the only one who is fed up.... - 18/08/2010 04:38:04 PM 1499 Views
This may be nitpicking, but I'll do it anyway because it's a widespread misconception... - 18/08/2010 04:30:20 PM 1419 Views
THANK YOU! - 18/08/2010 06:11:52 PM 1367 Views
Re: So wait... - 18/08/2010 04:45:53 PM 1432 Views
maybe it is actions that led to the crusades that never ended - 19/08/2010 12:25:20 PM 1368 Views
I have to agree with Jeo that that's unfair. - 19/08/2010 02:47:23 PM 1665 Views
The Crusades were by Christendom as a whole*, 9-11 isn't similar for Islam by some way - 18/08/2010 04:04:54 PM 1441 Views
Depends whom you ask, when and where. - 19/08/2010 03:06:18 PM 1393 Views
Right - 20/08/2010 10:31:21 AM 1451 Views
Some people will always wonder about such things; we're still accused of "Crusading" today. - 18/08/2010 04:07:02 PM 1467 Views
I don't disagree about the outreach, as such, but a remark... - 18/08/2010 04:37:52 PM 1336 Views
It's as much a local issue as the theme park Disney wanted to build at Gettysburg. - 19/08/2010 03:15:03 PM 1393 Views
Have you ever BEEN to Gettysburg? - 19/08/2010 05:21:18 PM 1305 Views
A bit more background information - 18/08/2010 05:30:04 PM 1591 Views
That's informative, thanks, but I'm not sure it really changes anything. - 19/08/2010 03:27:05 PM 1405 Views
Step One: Manufacture controversey by means of misinformation (i.e. Mosque at Ground Zero) - 19/08/2010 06:40:49 PM 1575 Views
To be fair - 20/08/2010 10:38:01 AM 1525 Views
The location of this mosque is a horrid idea. - 21/08/2010 05:34:58 PM 1390 Views
"Think of it as a center for muslim hippies." - 18/08/2010 09:30:55 PM 1525 Views
Can I just say... - 19/08/2010 01:45:38 AM 1352 Views
i have a side bar *NM* - 19/08/2010 03:36:10 AM 627 Views
you must have a teeny screen or a bad resolution - 19/08/2010 05:03:57 AM 1436 Views
I know. - 19/08/2010 12:20:11 PM 1498 Views
Roughly 2 football fields, yes. And around a corner - 19/08/2010 03:17:24 PM 1463 Views
Two hundred yards is nothing. - 19/08/2010 04:44:34 PM 1401 Views
Sure it is - it's two large city blocks - 19/08/2010 05:15:46 PM 1461 Views
It's two fairly average city blocks, and not even that some places. - 21/08/2010 06:07:33 PM 1434 Views
Well you can not like it if you choose - 25/08/2010 03:39:49 PM 1835 Views
You keep stating that this isn't about Islam. - 20/08/2010 11:06:10 AM 1520 Views
That's because it's not. - 21/08/2010 06:17:29 PM 1541 Views

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