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If people don't see their need for Jesus as savior, we're doing it wrong. Zalis Send a noteboard - 31/08/2010 08:44:36 PM
For that to be done, sin cannot be sugar coated. That's what I see more of these days, honestly. Lots of feel-good, warm fuzzy, easy-believism. Don't like hearing that the Bible says <x habit/lifestyle/etc> is a sin? Fuhgeddabowdit. Join our religious social club and hang out with the nice people. Enjoy our nice building. Give some money to the poor and feel better. Stuff like that.

The ministries I'm diggin' the most right now are those of Francis Chan, John Piper and Mark Driscoll. They're examples of ministries engaging the culture and using modern media, while not backpedaling on issues of sin, Christ's supremacy or scriptural authority.
The sword might be grateful to the forge fire, but never fond of it.
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Preaching the Word: You're doing it wrong. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 08:22:14 AM 1550 Views
Danny if you were my preacher... LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 12:42:59 PM 991 Views
Lots of good stuff Bramhodoulos - 31/08/2010 12:43:57 PM 974 Views
True enough. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 04:29:23 PM 1081 Views
Maybe it's just where you're coming from... Bramhodoulos - 31/08/2010 06:34:09 PM 923 Views
I like it SilverWarder - 31/08/2010 02:48:31 PM 760 Views
I really <3 you. @my - 31/08/2010 03:09:39 PM 951 Views
How much of that is your words? random thoughts - 31/08/2010 03:16:51 PM 1062 Views
he is a preacher LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 03:19:44 PM 1045 Views
Most of it. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 04:26:24 PM 897 Views
Well done. *NM* Missa Sedai - 31/08/2010 04:46:54 PM 575 Views
I find myself disgusted that... globug0822 - 31/08/2010 05:12:06 PM 993 Views
he's a peachy preacher? LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 05:27:08 PM 989 Views
LOL globug0822 - 31/08/2010 08:31:45 PM 912 Views
Is my church the exception? Jeordam - 31/08/2010 05:33:36 PM 970 Views
Believe it or not... Dannymac - 31/08/2010 06:58:56 PM 932 Views
I'm not so full of myself.... Jeordam - 31/08/2010 07:14:29 PM 1042 Views
I wouldn't blame you much if you did... Dannymac - 31/08/2010 07:18:19 PM 858 Views
A little fire & brimstone for thy stomach's sake? Jeordam - 31/08/2010 07:29:20 PM 882 Views
passionate preachers make me uneasy. LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 08:38:05 PM 777 Views
Passion doesn't need to be... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:50:22 PM 1043 Views
Why do you take what he says so personally? Francie - 01/09/2010 08:51:06 PM 1022 Views
I'm not taking anything personally.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:20:55 PM 1399 Views
good question,why would they? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:32:25 PM 977 Views
Your assumption... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:44:28 PM 1118 Views
Look him in the eye? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:59:02 PM 891 Views
Ok... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 10:34:56 PM 1010 Views
so you would not say a murderer would go to heaven? LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 12:21:10 AM 960 Views
Forgiveness and repentance are humanity's most noble qualities. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 12:48:02 AM 887 Views
Isn't love your big thing? Jeordam - 02/09/2010 07:17:30 PM 1102 Views
yah I know. I just always feel like they're trying to sell me something. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:09:13 PM 512 Views
Wouldn't this be.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:22:27 PM 932 Views
nah, i generally feel that way about that particular behavior. it's not exclusive to preachers *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:29:23 PM 540 Views
Re: I wouldn't blame you much if you did... Camilla - 01/09/2010 12:40:20 PM 1047 Views
*throws panties at you* globug0822 - 31/08/2010 08:35:13 PM 911 Views
There are churches where people throw panties at each other? random thoughts - 31/08/2010 09:42:17 PM 931 Views
I think you would also have to move to where she lives. I don't know any ones that do that here... *NM* Tashmere - 31/08/2010 09:47:21 PM 542 Views
I could just visit random thoughts - 31/08/2010 09:55:50 PM 942 Views
but it'd be fun to WATCH LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 10:02:58 PM 911 Views
if the panties are the size of revival tents it wouldn't be all that fun *NM* random thoughts - 31/08/2010 10:20:32 PM 463 Views
Why sure it would SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 06:57:05 AM 1071 Views
The Church of Tom Jones. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2010 10:22:59 PM 500 Views
(as if this was the first time) I remember that night at kit & wooly's place..... *NM* Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:51:17 PM 520 Views
I can't speak for everyone LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 08:40:12 PM 1066 Views
Testify Sistah Gaylen! Francie - 01/09/2010 02:47:50 PM 1112 Views
Contemplate this then.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:40:55 PM 918 Views
Re: Believe it or not... TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2010 10:22:20 PM 1000 Views
I never thought I could feel so free ee eeee *NM* Francie - 01/09/2010 02:48:18 PM 526 Views
As always, Danu - 31/08/2010 06:04:19 PM 1018 Views
If people don't see their need for Jesus as savior, we're doing it wrong. Zalis - 31/08/2010 08:44:36 PM 1073 Views
Well, at least you didn't include the vague "personal." Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 08:59:55 PM 912 Views
....what? LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 09:02:05 PM 920 Views
'Far as I can tell, it was a mock reply. *NM* Zalis - 31/08/2010 09:04:16 PM 469 Views
...ah...blagh. *NM* LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 09:07:00 PM 533 Views
It wasn't. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 09:56:35 PM 543 Views
The word used for "sin" in the New Testament is ἁμαρτία, which means "to miss the mark." Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 10:02:04 PM 825 Views
ahhh I see. That's interesting! *NM* LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 10:03:35 PM 515 Views
Re: The word used for "sin" in the New Testament is ἁμαρτία, which means "to miss the mark." Zalis - 31/08/2010 10:29:16 PM 1072 Views
I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 02:49:24 AM 939 Views
*picks up the thrown glove* Dannymac - 01/09/2010 03:44:53 AM 1083 Views
You didn't say anything I disagree with. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 05:02:59 AM 948 Views
One of your statements suma great deal of Christianity, actually LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 12:39:52 PM 935 Views
So then in your estimation.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:52:12 PM 1167 Views
From what I do know... LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:33:14 PM 1062 Views
How about some homework first? Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:32:32 PM 1150 Views
You do understand LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:35:25 PM 936 Views
You'd be suprised... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:50:12 PM 854 Views
Because I find theology interesting LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 10:04:23 PM 904 Views
You'd make such a good Episcopalian. *NM* Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 12:17:56 AM 432 Views
Coincidently, Ghav... LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 12:22:10 AM 907 Views
Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 01:03:13 AM 948 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Zalis - 01/09/2010 03:09:46 PM 1139 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 11:59:47 PM 1165 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Zalis - 02/09/2010 01:03:42 AM 998 Views
It isn't henosis. It's a union with God. That's the whole point of the Eucharist, anyway. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 01:13:39 AM 930 Views
"mock"...really??? damookster - 02/09/2010 07:22:34 PM 1065 Views
Moralistic, therapeutic Deism sounds like the perfect religion to me... *NM* Legolas - 01/09/2010 04:35:51 PM 491 Views
I think that its a great word to use... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:46:59 PM 1051 Views
Bummer Jesus couldn't figure that one out. Dannymac - 01/09/2010 03:48:03 AM 902 Views
"That ye love one another; as I have loved you" is actually somewhat terrifying. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 07:25:19 AM 947 Views
well OBVIOUSLY LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 12:29:20 PM 988 Views
Jesus talked about Hell more than anyone else in the Bible, AFAIK. Zalis - 01/09/2010 02:39:59 PM 1020 Views
You might want to research that some SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 02:56:58 PM 914 Views
Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, for instance. Zalis - 01/09/2010 03:38:00 PM 1050 Views
Nice try, but you will notice that the term "Hell" is entirely absent in the King James version SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 06:25:12 PM 1028 Views
the weeds will be gathered and burned does seem a little suggestive *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2010 06:55:44 PM 498 Views
yes of burning. LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:38:07 PM 1065 Views
burning and gnashing teeth *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2010 07:50:53 PM 514 Views
well wouldn't you gnash your teeth if you were on fire? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:51:36 PM 1090 Views
Jesus needs to work on his analogies LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:39:12 PM 1012 Views
there is a hell random thoughts - 01/09/2010 09:12:34 PM 1089 Views
lollers *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:17:16 PM 505 Views
to each their own... damookster - 01/09/2010 11:02:41 PM 956 Views
+1 *NM* random thoughts - 02/09/2010 03:43:10 AM 481 Views
Something of a false dilemma, that. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 04:10:25 AM 903 Views
or perhaps... damookster - 02/09/2010 04:18:57 AM 1045 Views
*NM* Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 04:31:33 AM 513 Views
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