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Seems to put atheists in a bit of a catch-22 there. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 30/11/2010 05:54:25 AM
No life other than us means that God created us especially, and life other than us means God created the universe to harbor life.

Of course, if your point was just that the discovery of extraterrestrial life shouldn't impact one's faith, then I agree with you.
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

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Is NASA set to reveal on Thursday signs of possible extraterrestial life within the solar system? Larry - 30/11/2010 03:49:40 AM 1176 Views
Interesting. Darth_Katie - 30/11/2010 04:43:15 AM 635 Views
crap! I will be watching this! dacole - 30/11/2010 05:04:58 AM 771 Views
Goddammit Wikileaks get on this *NM* beetnemesis - 30/11/2010 05:05:19 AM 317 Views
There's no one to smear, why would wikileaks be interested? *NM* Macharius - 30/11/2010 01:45:58 PM 306 Views
photsynthesis using arsnic hmm I am going to have to check this out dacole - 30/11/2010 05:07:22 AM 767 Views
If there is life in the solar system then it is likely a natural development in the universe. Tom - 30/11/2010 05:12:38 AM 666 Views
Re: If there is life in the solar system then it is likely a natural development in the universe. dacole - 30/11/2010 05:18:05 AM 833 Views
Seems to put atheists in a bit of a catch-22 there. Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 05:54:25 AM 792 Views
Bwa? Craig - 30/11/2010 06:45:33 AM 723 Views
Sorry, yeah. That is not my position. Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 07:03:17 AM 714 Views
The best will be when we find other intelligent life beetnemesis - 30/11/2010 02:32:35 PM 632 Views
Well, I don't actually agree with the first part of your Catch-22. At least, not entirely. Tom - 30/11/2010 02:43:13 PM 755 Views
Using anthropomorphic terms to describe the universe only reflects on you, not on the universe. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 30/11/2010 07:31:04 PM 324 Views
What an arbitrary and meaningless statement. *NM* Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 07:52:13 PM 260 Views
Anthropomorphizing concepts is a cognitive bias. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/11/2010 11:19:23 PM 622 Views
Only given a certain metaphysical framework. Ghavrel - 01/12/2010 12:18:09 AM 665 Views
Mind dumbing that down a bit? Isaac - 01/12/2010 12:43:47 AM 605 Views
I think he is saying Darth_Katie - 01/12/2010 01:26:34 AM 803 Views
That ain't not a lot simpler Isaac - 01/12/2010 01:35:38 AM 732 Views
Yes. Darth_Katie - 01/12/2010 01:44:41 AM 697 Views
In short, demanding that everyone use your particular worldview is unfair. Ghavrel - 01/12/2010 02:21:26 AM 714 Views
Those worldviews are unsupported by empirical evidence. Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 01:41:27 AM 794 Views
No worldviews are supported by empirical evidence. *NM* ranagrande - 01/12/2010 01:57:23 AM 304 Views
Empiricism is unsupported by empirical evidence. *NM* Ghavrel - 01/12/2010 02:21:52 AM 269 Views
Empirical evidence is the only objective standard. Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 02:59:18 AM 672 Views
Empirical evidence cannot fully explain reality. ranagrande - 01/12/2010 03:28:41 AM 758 Views
Re: Question (use google now!): what's the net energy of the universe? Gaps - 01/12/2010 03:35:57 AM 684 Views
Re: Gaps - 01/12/2010 03:45:22 AM 885 Views
Re: Re: ranagrande - 01/12/2010 04:04:38 AM 671 Views
Time does not exist separately from space, as Einstein demonstrated almost a century ago. Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 03:36:56 AM 751 Views
I have my own theories about time, but they're not ready for presentation yet ranagrande - 01/12/2010 03:56:38 AM 1022 Views
Re: I have my own theories about time, but they're not ready for presentation yet Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 04:30:44 AM 1061 Views
Yes. I know what empiricism is. Ghavrel - 01/12/2010 05:17:05 AM 978 Views
Re: You are a smart person. Gaps - 01/12/2010 03:09:13 AM 653 Views
Thanks. Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 03:30:46 AM 895 Views
Interesting. I agree with what you're saying, actually. Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 07:49:51 PM 602 Views
It won't change the argument in the least. Dannymac - 01/12/2010 05:26:16 AM 795 Views
I have the feeling it's probably not going to be that. Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 06:02:48 AM 681 Views
Ohh, exciting! ironclad - 30/11/2010 08:37:32 AM 646 Views
noooo! Yunalesca - 30/11/2010 10:19:27 AM 601 Views
Boring primitive things would be cool. Darth_Katie - 30/11/2010 02:54:10 PM 639 Views
Hey, there's a name I recognize, "Iron Lisa" Isaac - 30/11/2010 09:25:01 AM 743 Views
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE beetnemesis - 30/11/2010 02:33:30 PM 699 Views
I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords. *NM* ranagrande - 30/11/2010 02:35:04 PM 272 Views
"I, for one, welcome our new INSECT overlords"! Isaac - 01/12/2010 12:40:27 AM 679 Views
but we don't know if they're insects yet! ranagrande - 01/12/2010 12:55:52 AM 620 Views
I'll not bow to any mere Bacterial Overlords, Eukaryote Overlords only!!! *NM* Isaac - 01/12/2010 01:02:20 AM 275 Views
So you're prejudiced against the nuclearly challenged? ranagrande - 01/12/2010 01:09:57 AM 631 Views
It's this kind of blind adherence to political correctness that is tearing us apart! Darth_Katie - 01/12/2010 01:28:39 AM 612 Views
Down right genocidal toward them Isaac - 01/12/2010 01:31:47 AM 615 Views
Genocide is a bit extreme ranagrande - 01/12/2010 02:13:18 AM 645 Views
They had better have a green man *NM* Camilla - 30/11/2010 10:45:56 AM 240 Views
Because you need somebody to attack Aginor and Balthamel? *NM* TaskmasterJack - 01/12/2010 01:04:23 AM 244 Views
Oh no you didn't *NM* Camilla - 01/12/2010 01:14:55 AM 248 Views
Seriously. Craig - 01/12/2010 01:26:54 AM 600 Views
Re: But then you got turned on just thinking about the phrase? Gaps - 01/12/2010 02:23:02 AM 697 Views
I'm actually a tiny bit giddy about this. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 01/12/2010 01:04:49 AM 258 Views
Re: Arsenic. *NM* Gaps - 01/12/2010 02:09:51 AM 272 Views
Re: Perhaps just as awesomely: Gaps - 01/12/2010 02:21:35 AM 746 Views
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