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Had that convo with the cab driver on the way home from a New Years party. Joel Send a noteboard - 18/01/2011 11:42:07 PM
And I am sick of the level of stupidity some otherwise intelligence people have gone to "prove" Palin is stupid. I mean really when the loonies are complaining that they think she wasn’t being sensitive enough when she defended herself against their slander then you really just have to throw your hands up and call it quits because you can't argue with crazy.


Since when did anyone have to go to any lengths at all to prove Sarah Palin is a dumbfuck? Have you heard her? Have you looked at her dumbfuck face? McCain should be jailed for unleashing her on this country. She's taken politics, which have always been a circus, and turned it into the biggest circus in the world.

I wouldn't leave the country right now if the best vacation in the world was offered to me, because I'd be too embarrassed to be seen by the rest of the world. The second anyone outside of this country found out I was American, they'd see the connection I have with Sarah Palin (being American) and I would feel the strong need to jump in front of a bus.

Soon as he found out I was American (which was pretty much the moment I opened my mouth) my fiancee and I were discussing Palin with him. We had a much shorter discussion of Obama, but Palin was still first even though the President was awarded the Nobel prize here last year. We ultimately moved on to a discussion of how startlingly Brazils president (the guy has a fourth grade education!) has taken them from 2000% inflation to a top five global economy; he took office as a friend of labor whom the right hated but steered a middle course that has everyone cheering, and perhaps Obama was trying to emulate him (though Brazils stimulus was in the laws, not corporate handouts). But by far the person we discussed most was Sarah Palin and I found myself in the same boat I've often been as a Christian talking to people scarred by demagogues in THAT arena: Trying to demonstrate that we're not all hate filled and insane, can even agree and identify with people so many, supposedly even among ourselvses, believe we're required to despise.

Meanwhile, China, India and Brazil are kicking butt and taking names; we need to pry our hands from around each others throats and stop insisting we're infallible and every other country hopelessly wrong. We made our names stealing and improving good ideas from abroad (e.g. steam engine, railroad, cars, assembly lines, standardized parts, rocketry, radio, TV) as much as by innovating our own, taking the best from every other country and leaving the bad to make the strongest, richest most free nation on the planet. If we don't remember that, and soon, instead of insisting everyone learn English we'll all have to learn "Do you want fries with that?" in three other languages.... :[
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OK, I'm Officially Sick of the "Blood Libel" BS. - 16/01/2011 12:18:22 PM 2213 Views
Why are they calling it "blood libel"? - 16/01/2011 12:23:47 PM 1094 Views
Because if the facts were as they represent them those words would be applicable. - 16/01/2011 12:49:22 PM 1257 Views
It's not entirely clear to me whether you're aware of this or not, but... - 16/01/2011 01:12:22 PM 1295 Views
That's why I said, "popularized". - 16/01/2011 01:46:52 PM 1275 Views
I think Alan Dershowitz dealt with this nonsense already - 16/01/2011 02:34:10 PM 1646 Views
Interesting. I didn't realize it was so wide-spread. - 16/01/2011 03:10:28 PM 1171 Views
She wasn't even the first to use the term that week either - 16/01/2011 10:10:35 PM 1194 Views
I don't know that "expert" has anything to do with it. - 16/01/2011 10:18:54 PM 1179 Views
Re: I don't know that "expert" has anything to do with it. - 16/01/2011 11:30:38 PM 1080 Views
Oh please don't you start to - 17/01/2011 02:34:43 PM 1016 Views
I for one hadn't noticed it before. - 17/01/2011 10:25:57 PM 1213 Views
it was used here and nobody commented - 17/01/2011 10:37:07 PM 1112 Views
LOL, I totally forgot that got posted here - 17/01/2011 10:54:26 PM 1140 Views
It's funny you should say that... - 18/01/2011 10:32:59 PM 1182 Views
Re: It's funny you should say that... - 19/01/2011 03:29:52 PM 1166 Views
It was permissible to ignore until it became a rallying cry. - 20/01/2011 04:27:23 PM 1197 Views
A rallying cry is hardly illegal - 20/01/2011 05:32:45 PM 1266 Views
I never said it was. - 20/01/2011 06:59:39 PM 1353 Views
Oh, I noticed that one alright. - 18/01/2011 10:25:23 PM 1025 Views
compared to the way similar terms are used? - 19/01/2011 06:58:02 PM 1188 Views
I meant I hadn't seen it used in different contexts before. - 19/01/2011 07:35:00 PM 1144 Views
Indeed, my response to Legolas references Wikipedias quotation of him. - 16/01/2011 10:24:09 PM 1232 Views
Re: Indeed, my response to Legolas references Wikipedias quotation of him. - 16/01/2011 11:09:21 PM 1287 Views
Again, Giffords specifically made the connection between Palins imagery and an attack on her. - 17/01/2011 12:53:08 AM 1419 Views
That means precisely nothing - 17/01/2011 03:59:07 PM 1115 Views
It means everything. - 18/01/2011 08:34:55 PM 1360 Views
I'm trying to understand your logic - 19/01/2011 12:50:28 AM 960 Views
There are two points: - 19/01/2011 02:47:48 AM 1183 Views
Re: It means everything. - 19/01/2011 05:55:02 PM 995 Views
That's simply illogical. - 20/01/2011 01:08:51 AM 1389 Views
the old step one steal underwear step three profit argument - 19/01/2011 06:01:14 PM 1257 Views
that is some twisted and bizarre logic - 17/01/2011 02:38:41 PM 1204 Views
So I am a little confused on something... - 16/01/2011 02:38:59 PM 1247 Views
Palin putting Giffords district in the crosshairs and Giffords implying at the time she feared this - 16/01/2011 11:21:36 PM 1383 Views
If I understand what you are saying correctly... - 17/01/2011 07:07:56 AM 1116 Views
I'm sorry you so badly misunderstand. - 17/01/2011 08:33:47 AM 1143 Views
Re: I'm sorry you so badly misunderstand. - 17/01/2011 04:24:01 PM 1213 Views
The Secret Service does guard Congressmen, just not all of them automatically. - 18/01/2011 09:13:39 PM 1012 Views
No, they don't - 18/01/2011 10:19:34 PM 1209 Views
Really? Cannoli says differently, and I believe he's right on that one. - 18/01/2011 10:50:51 PM 1314 Views
You seem to be reading what you want to from what I said - 19/01/2011 01:27:32 PM 1146 Views
I read what you said & understood it as you restate here, hence I referenced local police (twice) - 20/01/2011 02:15:17 AM 1210 Views
The problem here is your ignoring normal policing powers to concoct an absurdity - 20/01/2011 04:20:25 PM 1288 Views
More absurd than the notion such incitement warrants no notice? - 20/01/2011 05:42:47 PM 1263 Views
really because people post that kind of crap daily and nothing happens - 20/01/2011 05:57:52 PM 1090 Views
Your shifting your original premise, *again* - 20/01/2011 08:24:18 PM 1111 Views
No, you're simply missing the point of it. - 20/01/2011 11:09:57 PM 1127 Views
There is no point - 21/01/2011 12:22:30 AM 1173 Views
If I had no point I wouldn't bother, but fair enough. - 21/01/2011 01:20:32 AM 1417 Views
Uh...Last I checked conservatives didn't list the Communist Manifesto as a favourite book. - 16/01/2011 03:05:07 PM 1443 Views
You're awesome at missing points, aren't you? - 16/01/2011 07:26:30 PM 1182 Views
where is the accountability for those committing slander? - 17/01/2011 02:52:40 PM 1093 Views
Libs hate Mein Kampf and We the Living; conservatives hate the Communist Manifesto: He's neither. - 16/01/2011 10:06:02 PM 1112 Views
conseartives hate Mein Kampf and liberals stil read the Communist Manifesto - 17/01/2011 02:57:22 PM 1098 Views
That first line is says it all. - 18/01/2011 09:34:06 PM 1194 Views
Nazis had more in common with communist then capitalist - 19/01/2011 04:10:09 PM 1296 Views
The founder of fascism called it "the merger of corporate and national power". - 20/01/2011 02:51:09 AM 1194 Views
and that is supposed to mean something? - 20/01/2011 06:06:18 PM 1184 Views
YOU are cherry picking. - 20/01/2011 07:50:21 PM 1132 Views
It is to be expected that this site would be libtard central... - 16/01/2011 05:23:53 PM 1410 Views
See my reply to Dragonsoul above. - 16/01/2011 07:30:40 PM 1232 Views
Yeah, your first was better - 16/01/2011 09:48:58 PM 1071 Views
Palin didn't really have anything to do with this, but it makes sense she's blamed. - 16/01/2011 10:19:51 PM 1129 Views
Pretty much. - 16/01/2011 11:44:35 PM 1189 Views
Did they ever catch the person(s) that vandalized Gifford's office? *NM* - 17/01/2011 03:30:36 AM 545 Views
politcal offices are vandalized on a regular basis *NM* - 17/01/2011 02:41:29 PM 514 Views
She only asked if they caught the guy, she didn't accuse anyone, Sarah. - 18/01/2011 11:27:18 PM 1083 Views
OK Olberman when did I imply otherwise? *NM* - 19/01/2011 02:48:41 PM 556 Views
"Political offices are vandalized on a regular basis". - 20/01/2011 03:16:39 AM 1268 Views
Took you this long, huh? - 17/01/2011 01:53:31 PM 1013 Views
I am sick of the desperate attempts of liberals to find a way to use a tragedy - 17/01/2011 02:31:18 PM 1049 Views
I'm just curious. - 17/01/2011 03:23:47 PM 1012 Views
Re: I'm just curious. - 17/01/2011 03:28:04 PM 1172 Views
I always said I'd do that after Bush was re-elected. - 18/01/2011 11:52:45 PM 1053 Views
like I said a matter of faith - 17/01/2011 04:27:51 PM 1037 Views
I find it interesting... - 17/01/2011 05:31:54 PM 1177 Views
I mention her looks solely because... - 20/01/2011 02:30:42 PM 1063 Views
Had that convo with the cab driver on the way home from a New Years party. - 18/01/2011 11:42:07 PM 1316 Views
If slander, not mine, Giffords' (at least you don't err like Palin and say, "libel" ). - 18/01/2011 11:14:23 PM 1240 Views
mark you calendar today is the day Joel offically went around the bend into insanity - 19/01/2011 05:28:06 PM 1091 Views
A mirror will show me who's to blame? On whom have I put a crosshairs? - 20/01/2011 03:23:43 AM 1108 Views
so it is all a matter of faith for you - 20/01/2011 05:48:44 AM 1053 Views
No, it's fairly straight forward logic. - 20/01/2011 03:25:56 PM 1152 Views
sorry Joel but you haven't - 20/01/2011 03:29:49 PM 948 Views
It's there; in this thread alone people from both sides of the aisle have acknowledged that. - 20/01/2011 05:51:21 PM 1047 Views
only in your does the connection exisit - 20/01/2011 06:39:35 PM 1083 Views
No. - 20/01/2011 07:35:09 PM 1177 Views
dude wake up - 20/01/2011 08:54:33 PM 1291 Views
So in your opinion... - 17/01/2011 05:27:58 PM 1042 Views
How 'bout simply color coding them? - 18/01/2011 11:21:03 PM 1088 Views
Why not just blame Giffords? - 17/01/2011 06:07:14 PM 1391 Views
Indeed, why not; Sarah Palin does. - 18/01/2011 06:58:01 PM 1213 Views
The irony of this thread is not lost on me. - 19/01/2011 04:09:01 PM 1218 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 19/01/2011 04:51:40 PM 611 Views
Bizarre thread for that Soapbox - 19/01/2011 05:17:58 PM 966 Views
You missed the point, obviously. - 19/01/2011 06:04:23 PM 1074 Views
so you are saying it is the same old RAFO - 19/01/2011 06:47:24 PM 1147 Views
The thread has admittedly degenerated - 19/01/2011 07:02:12 PM 988 Views
Check your NB. Noted you a response. *NM* - 19/01/2011 07:04:58 PM 576 Views
That I knew it would go this way is why I avoided looking closely for so long. - 19/01/2011 11:20:44 PM 1227 Views
Hey, now. I have to step in. - 20/01/2011 04:44:49 PM 1257 Views
I'm just saying a significant link can be demonstrated. - 20/01/2011 07:07:27 PM 1314 Views
Re: OK, I'm Officially Sick of the "Blood Libel" BS. - 22/01/2011 05:49:44 PM 1248 Views

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