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Nazis had more in common with communist then capitalist random thoughts Send a noteboard - 19/01/2011 04:10:09 PM
Mein Kampf was written by a socialist.

The fact that Ms. Giffords played the typical liberal game of pumping up their base with the "they are crazy and they are after us" fear mongering really isn't relevant. She wasn't bothered by democrats using very similar imagery.

Being shot does make her an instant saint or prophet.


Calling it "national socialism" was a Trojan Horse directed at German leftists and no one on the left or right, or either side of the Atlantic, bought it for a second. Hitler got elected by burning the Reichstag just so he could accuse the left of treason (SOUND FAMILIAR? :rolleyes: ) When the right fought the left in the Spanish Civil War it was fascists vs. communists, not Republicans vs. fascists and communists (ironically, Francos party called themselves "Republicans" but that was mere coincidence; it doesn't taint the GOP except to the extent some GOP members then supported Franco politically and financially). Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and Tojo hated the left--ALL of it--with a passion even you can't imagine.

But none of that's relevant here except insofar as how much the far rights agenda has distored it's grasp of political science and historical fact because Loughner is neither right nor left, he's just a violent paranoid nut with a record of criminal activity and mental instability who still got a gun because background checks before buying one are no longer mandatory.

If you want to call Giffords statement a political game, that's fine, but the FACTS are

1) She said Palins imagery endangered her,


She said that even though her own party used similar images. Seems like she was a typical liberal.

2) She's been shot and


Since it had zero connection with Palin's imagery so far I would say she has not been proven correct.

3) Palin says 2) makes 1) "blood libel".

If you want to accuse Giffords, go to her hospital room and do so--if you have that much guts and that little shame. :[


If Gifford comes out of the hospital room and makes the claim that Palin was at fault then I have no problem accusing her of slander. being shot does not make you saint. I have no problem criticizing the left wing nut job who got shot in the leg and then made death against a Tea Party member.
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OK, I'm Officially Sick of the "Blood Libel" BS. - 16/01/2011 12:18:22 PM 2184 Views
Why are they calling it "blood libel"? - 16/01/2011 12:23:47 PM 1057 Views
Because if the facts were as they represent them those words would be applicable. - 16/01/2011 12:49:22 PM 1222 Views
It's not entirely clear to me whether you're aware of this or not, but... - 16/01/2011 01:12:22 PM 1264 Views
That's why I said, "popularized". - 16/01/2011 01:46:52 PM 1237 Views
I think Alan Dershowitz dealt with this nonsense already - 16/01/2011 02:34:10 PM 1608 Views
Interesting. I didn't realize it was so wide-spread. - 16/01/2011 03:10:28 PM 1136 Views
She wasn't even the first to use the term that week either - 16/01/2011 10:10:35 PM 1163 Views
I don't know that "expert" has anything to do with it. - 16/01/2011 10:18:54 PM 1157 Views
Re: I don't know that "expert" has anything to do with it. - 16/01/2011 11:30:38 PM 1047 Views
Oh please don't you start to - 17/01/2011 02:34:43 PM 991 Views
I for one hadn't noticed it before. - 17/01/2011 10:25:57 PM 1186 Views
it was used here and nobody commented - 17/01/2011 10:37:07 PM 1065 Views
LOL, I totally forgot that got posted here - 17/01/2011 10:54:26 PM 1102 Views
It's funny you should say that... - 18/01/2011 10:32:59 PM 1150 Views
Re: It's funny you should say that... - 19/01/2011 03:29:52 PM 1140 Views
It was permissible to ignore until it became a rallying cry. - 20/01/2011 04:27:23 PM 1175 Views
A rallying cry is hardly illegal - 20/01/2011 05:32:45 PM 1233 Views
I never said it was. - 20/01/2011 06:59:39 PM 1322 Views
Oh, I noticed that one alright. - 18/01/2011 10:25:23 PM 996 Views
compared to the way similar terms are used? - 19/01/2011 06:58:02 PM 1141 Views
I meant I hadn't seen it used in different contexts before. - 19/01/2011 07:35:00 PM 1109 Views
Indeed, my response to Legolas references Wikipedias quotation of him. - 16/01/2011 10:24:09 PM 1197 Views
Re: Indeed, my response to Legolas references Wikipedias quotation of him. - 16/01/2011 11:09:21 PM 1247 Views
Again, Giffords specifically made the connection between Palins imagery and an attack on her. - 17/01/2011 12:53:08 AM 1387 Views
That means precisely nothing - 17/01/2011 03:59:07 PM 1085 Views
It means everything. - 18/01/2011 08:34:55 PM 1326 Views
I'm trying to understand your logic - 19/01/2011 12:50:28 AM 932 Views
There are two points: - 19/01/2011 02:47:48 AM 1150 Views
Re: It means everything. - 19/01/2011 05:55:02 PM 971 Views
That's simply illogical. - 20/01/2011 01:08:51 AM 1361 Views
the old step one steal underwear step three profit argument - 19/01/2011 06:01:14 PM 1221 Views
that is some twisted and bizarre logic - 17/01/2011 02:38:41 PM 1173 Views
So I am a little confused on something... - 16/01/2011 02:38:59 PM 1214 Views
Palin putting Giffords district in the crosshairs and Giffords implying at the time she feared this - 16/01/2011 11:21:36 PM 1353 Views
If I understand what you are saying correctly... - 17/01/2011 07:07:56 AM 1086 Views
I'm sorry you so badly misunderstand. - 17/01/2011 08:33:47 AM 1110 Views
Re: I'm sorry you so badly misunderstand. - 17/01/2011 04:24:01 PM 1179 Views
The Secret Service does guard Congressmen, just not all of them automatically. - 18/01/2011 09:13:39 PM 981 Views
No, they don't - 18/01/2011 10:19:34 PM 1179 Views
Really? Cannoli says differently, and I believe he's right on that one. - 18/01/2011 10:50:51 PM 1280 Views
You seem to be reading what you want to from what I said - 19/01/2011 01:27:32 PM 1114 Views
I read what you said & understood it as you restate here, hence I referenced local police (twice) - 20/01/2011 02:15:17 AM 1174 Views
The problem here is your ignoring normal policing powers to concoct an absurdity - 20/01/2011 04:20:25 PM 1252 Views
More absurd than the notion such incitement warrants no notice? - 20/01/2011 05:42:47 PM 1233 Views
really because people post that kind of crap daily and nothing happens - 20/01/2011 05:57:52 PM 1060 Views
Your shifting your original premise, *again* - 20/01/2011 08:24:18 PM 1078 Views
No, you're simply missing the point of it. - 20/01/2011 11:09:57 PM 1094 Views
There is no point - 21/01/2011 12:22:30 AM 1131 Views
If I had no point I wouldn't bother, but fair enough. - 21/01/2011 01:20:32 AM 1378 Views
Uh...Last I checked conservatives didn't list the Communist Manifesto as a favourite book. - 16/01/2011 03:05:07 PM 1394 Views
You're awesome at missing points, aren't you? - 16/01/2011 07:26:30 PM 1144 Views
where is the accountability for those committing slander? - 17/01/2011 02:52:40 PM 1056 Views
Libs hate Mein Kampf and We the Living; conservatives hate the Communist Manifesto: He's neither. - 16/01/2011 10:06:02 PM 1077 Views
conseartives hate Mein Kampf and liberals stil read the Communist Manifesto - 17/01/2011 02:57:22 PM 1066 Views
That first line is says it all. - 18/01/2011 09:34:06 PM 1155 Views
Nazis had more in common with communist then capitalist - 19/01/2011 04:10:09 PM 1259 Views
The founder of fascism called it "the merger of corporate and national power". - 20/01/2011 02:51:09 AM 1149 Views
and that is supposed to mean something? - 20/01/2011 06:06:18 PM 1159 Views
YOU are cherry picking. - 20/01/2011 07:50:21 PM 1099 Views
It is to be expected that this site would be libtard central... - 16/01/2011 05:23:53 PM 1381 Views
See my reply to Dragonsoul above. - 16/01/2011 07:30:40 PM 1199 Views
Yeah, your first was better - 16/01/2011 09:48:58 PM 1020 Views
Palin didn't really have anything to do with this, but it makes sense she's blamed. - 16/01/2011 10:19:51 PM 1097 Views
Pretty much. - 16/01/2011 11:44:35 PM 1159 Views
Did they ever catch the person(s) that vandalized Gifford's office? *NM* - 17/01/2011 03:30:36 AM 534 Views
politcal offices are vandalized on a regular basis *NM* - 17/01/2011 02:41:29 PM 500 Views
She only asked if they caught the guy, she didn't accuse anyone, Sarah. - 18/01/2011 11:27:18 PM 1052 Views
OK Olberman when did I imply otherwise? *NM* - 19/01/2011 02:48:41 PM 542 Views
"Political offices are vandalized on a regular basis". - 20/01/2011 03:16:39 AM 1244 Views
Took you this long, huh? - 17/01/2011 01:53:31 PM 988 Views
I am sick of the desperate attempts of liberals to find a way to use a tragedy - 17/01/2011 02:31:18 PM 1021 Views
I'm just curious. - 17/01/2011 03:23:47 PM 985 Views
Re: I'm just curious. - 17/01/2011 03:28:04 PM 1134 Views
I always said I'd do that after Bush was re-elected. - 18/01/2011 11:52:45 PM 1008 Views
like I said a matter of faith - 17/01/2011 04:27:51 PM 995 Views
I find it interesting... - 17/01/2011 05:31:54 PM 1148 Views
I mention her looks solely because... - 20/01/2011 02:30:42 PM 1036 Views
If slander, not mine, Giffords' (at least you don't err like Palin and say, "libel" ). - 18/01/2011 11:14:23 PM 1205 Views
mark you calendar today is the day Joel offically went around the bend into insanity - 19/01/2011 05:28:06 PM 1053 Views
A mirror will show me who's to blame? On whom have I put a crosshairs? - 20/01/2011 03:23:43 AM 1079 Views
so it is all a matter of faith for you - 20/01/2011 05:48:44 AM 1014 Views
No, it's fairly straight forward logic. - 20/01/2011 03:25:56 PM 1122 Views
sorry Joel but you haven't - 20/01/2011 03:29:49 PM 914 Views
It's there; in this thread alone people from both sides of the aisle have acknowledged that. - 20/01/2011 05:51:21 PM 1014 Views
only in your does the connection exisit - 20/01/2011 06:39:35 PM 1059 Views
No. - 20/01/2011 07:35:09 PM 1136 Views
dude wake up - 20/01/2011 08:54:33 PM 1259 Views
So in your opinion... - 17/01/2011 05:27:58 PM 1005 Views
How 'bout simply color coding them? - 18/01/2011 11:21:03 PM 1062 Views
Why not just blame Giffords? - 17/01/2011 06:07:14 PM 1360 Views
Indeed, why not; Sarah Palin does. - 18/01/2011 06:58:01 PM 1180 Views
The irony of this thread is not lost on me. - 19/01/2011 04:09:01 PM 1180 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 19/01/2011 04:51:40 PM 584 Views
Bizarre thread for that Soapbox - 19/01/2011 05:17:58 PM 923 Views
You missed the point, obviously. - 19/01/2011 06:04:23 PM 1037 Views
so you are saying it is the same old RAFO - 19/01/2011 06:47:24 PM 1118 Views
The thread has admittedly degenerated - 19/01/2011 07:02:12 PM 956 Views
Check your NB. Noted you a response. *NM* - 19/01/2011 07:04:58 PM 567 Views
That I knew it would go this way is why I avoided looking closely for so long. - 19/01/2011 11:20:44 PM 1195 Views
Hey, now. I have to step in. - 20/01/2011 04:44:49 PM 1224 Views
I'm just saying a significant link can be demonstrated. - 20/01/2011 07:07:27 PM 1264 Views
Re: OK, I'm Officially Sick of the "Blood Libel" BS. - 22/01/2011 05:49:44 PM 1217 Views

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