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i'm proud to live in a country where you can be executed based on circumstantial evidence... moondog Send a noteboard - 22/09/2011 04:06:07 PM
whether or not Troy Davis was guilty, the fact that someone can be executed with ZERO physical evidence tying them to the crime is beyond the pale. it has long been established that eyewitness accounts are not 100% reliable as evidence, but yet not only did a jury decide that the eyewitness accounts were enough to convict, they handed down a death sentence as well. then when 7 of 9 eyewitnesses recanted their testimony, it still wasn't enough to prevent the execution.

zero physical evidence, 7 of 9 eyewitnesses coming forward to say they were either wrong or coerced by police to give misleading testimony and yet we still put the convicted man to death for it. yay.... :[
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i'm proud to live in a country where you can be executed based on circumstantial evidence... moondog - 22/09/2011 04:06:07 PM 1659 Views
Yeah it's pretty damn disgusting and frustrating... ironclad - 22/09/2011 04:08:05 PM 935 Views
Well nossy - 22/09/2011 06:57:37 PM 989 Views
And yet the Supreme Court didn't stop it. You're a lawyer right? Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:19:05 PM 996 Views
Well, that right there was an ignorant thing to say. Dannymac - 22/09/2011 04:32:49 PM 1068 Views
But they get all the media attention Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:45:03 PM 955 Views
Er. Nate - 22/09/2011 05:09:44 PM 963 Views
What about the t-shirts? *NM* Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 05:47:49 PM 399 Views
Heh... you should perhaps Google 'The West Memphis 3' Jacob - 22/09/2011 05:29:06 PM 1057 Views
Cameron Todd Willingham is white, and his story is a national one since Perry is running for Pres Roland00 - 23/09/2011 03:41:52 PM 806 Views
those numbers are less schocking when you consider that blacks commet a lot more murders *NM* random thoughts - 22/09/2011 05:43:51 PM 414 Views
And this is a typically illogical argument. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:11:48 PM 970 Views
You're kidding, right? Dannymac - 23/09/2011 02:55:44 PM 948 Views
Re: You're kidding, right? ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 07:36:38 PM 960 Views
Juror bias. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/09/2011 08:35:10 PM 384 Views
the jury was majority black *NM* random thoughts - 23/09/2011 09:03:48 PM 397 Views
In this instance, yes. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/09/2011 09:30:10 PM 353 Views
Your evidence for that? *NM* ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 11:33:58 PM 393 Views
Twenty-one years of life in the American South. Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 12:40:10 AM 904 Views
Of course I'm interested ßelals Girl - 24/09/2011 04:03:51 AM 839 Views
From me being too involved with the subject material. I apologize. Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 11:16:06 AM 821 Views
No worries ßelals Girl - 24/09/2011 07:10:40 PM 811 Views
While I largely agree with your argument, I agree more with Cannoli on the NAACP. Joel - 23/09/2011 07:46:06 PM 885 Views
Wow ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 07:50:06 PM 783 Views
It happens. Joel - 25/09/2011 03:09:00 PM 837 Views
yes the "you born white what more do you want" argument *NM* random thoughts - 23/09/2011 09:03:04 PM 392 Views
From what I've read it is pretty disturbing snoopcester - 22/09/2011 04:27:44 PM 1004 Views
Huh. Nate - 22/09/2011 04:47:20 PM 1007 Views
That jumped out at me too. Sareitha Sedai - 22/09/2011 04:50:52 PM 941 Views
What really confuses me Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:58:32 PM 884 Views
That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed. Sareitha Sedai - 22/09/2011 05:05:40 PM 996 Views
Re: That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed. Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:21:59 PM 1023 Views
If the original trial is shown to be flawed that's supposed to require a new trial. Joel - 22/09/2011 08:25:51 PM 907 Views
Well... Jacob - 22/09/2011 05:18:54 PM 1040 Views
So if I understand you correctly... LadyLorraine - 22/09/2011 05:23:00 PM 977 Views
Yes, that is correct. And proving witness coercion is likely to be difficult if not impossible. *NM* Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:30:37 PM 358 Views
almost random thoughts - 22/09/2011 08:25:06 PM 892 Views
Re: Well... Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:29:03 PM 952 Views
I know one reason is that MightyYT - 22/09/2011 08:27:41 PM 958 Views
it is only confusing because the evidence isn't really that shaky random thoughts - 22/09/2011 08:54:21 PM 957 Views
you are innocent until proven guilty random thoughts - 22/09/2011 05:34:57 PM 960 Views
You must change your perspective..... Jeordam - 22/09/2011 07:33:20 PM 932 Views
Well said *NM* Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 08:49:56 PM 427 Views
If I understand the Supreme Court correctly, the reason they denied the stay of execution was MightyYT - 22/09/2011 08:25:14 PM 963 Views
On its face, that is a good reason. Joel - 22/09/2011 10:07:44 PM 1003 Views
I completely support the Death Penalty without question..... trzaska2000 - 22/09/2011 08:27:54 PM 860 Views
Unreasonable doubt is impossible to eliminate. Joel - 22/09/2011 09:54:43 PM 946 Views
Doubt can be eliminated.....any question about Dalmer? trzaska2000 - 23/09/2011 01:00:52 PM 1002 Views
Maybe he was framed by an enemy, government conspiracy or aliens. Joel - 23/09/2011 01:54:21 PM 873 Views
Jigga what? *NM* trzaska2000 - 23/09/2011 03:36:07 PM 498 Views
"I do not know if I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly or am now a butterfly..." Joel - 23/09/2011 06:50:34 PM 872 Views
Circumstantial evidence is not, I believe, a bar to conviction. Joel - 22/09/2011 09:43:56 PM 851 Views
Regarding the salvation thing, that is an argument FOR the death penalty, in my mind. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:37:16 PM 905 Views
That motive is seflish and thus fatal. Joel - 23/09/2011 01:17:00 AM 881 Views
Bullshit Cannoli - 25/09/2011 03:53:05 AM 1068 Views
Where do YOU get the idea that imperfect contrition is good enough? Joel - 25/09/2011 02:29:18 PM 1399 Views
Thank God you're not an evangelist. Dannymac - 23/09/2011 02:59:06 PM 882 Views
And I pity the souls you have ministered to. They're in for a rude shock at their judgement Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:01:05 AM 870 Views
lol roman catholicism *NM* Ghavrel - 25/09/2011 04:39:55 AM 366 Views
Not just Roman Catholics, y'know, everyone who thinks God was not BSing about judgement. Joel - 25/09/2011 09:47:12 PM 925 Views
lol hellfire and brimstone *NM* Ghavrel - 26/09/2011 12:12:28 AM 359 Views
I suppose in a consequences free world everything is a source of amusement. Joel - 26/09/2011 12:33:14 AM 1089 Views
You really don't understand irony, do you? Particularly as it applies to your post about this case. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:26:49 PM 991 Views
. Two Wongs - 23/09/2011 08:21:38 AM 906 Views
A list of anecdotal wrongs does not prove anything. If convictions can be wrong, so can exonerations *NM* Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:03:26 AM 369 Views
Yes; it's the uncertainties that count. Either way. Two Wongs - 25/09/2011 04:15:48 AM 727 Views
sorry if i don't have time to link to every thing i've read on the subject moondog - 23/09/2011 02:54:50 PM 1049 Views
Well I would think you would have picked an article that offers some iota of proof of his innocence. Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:14:45 AM 951 Views
I kind of agree. Vivien - 24/09/2011 12:05:27 AM 973 Views
Well, I wouldn't call eyewitness accounts circumstancial evidence. Vivien - 23/09/2011 11:45:48 PM 887 Views
Eyewitness testimony is incredibly unreliable. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 12:39:51 AM 365 Views
Nor would I, but I've heard that lawyers say, "an eye witness is the worst witness you can have." Joel - 25/09/2011 03:23:53 PM 879 Views
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