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Heh... you should perhaps Google 'The West Memphis 3' Jacob Send a noteboard - 22/09/2011 05:29:06 PM
It is an interesting corollary. And, ironically, after being convicted of the torture and murder of 3 eight year olds, based on the strength of witness testimony, not on evidence, the 18 year old was sentenced to death. He attracted some very high profile supporters like Eddie Vedder, members of the Dixie Chicks, etc. 18 years later, after witnesses had died or recanted, and there was still no real physical evidence, the three entered a "We are innocent but are pleading guilty to murder for our best interests" in a new hearing. They were then released, completely free, from jail despite the state and prosecutors adamantly proclaiming that those 3 are the only suspects and are indeed guilty.

Oh, and they were 3 white kids. Just to say that some cases get a lot of attention no matter what.
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i'm proud to live in a country where you can be executed based on circumstantial evidence... moondog - 22/09/2011 04:06:07 PM 1333 Views
Yeah it's pretty damn disgusting and frustrating... ironclad - 22/09/2011 04:08:05 PM 647 Views
Well nossy - 22/09/2011 06:57:37 PM 687 Views
And yet the Supreme Court didn't stop it. You're a lawyer right? Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:19:05 PM 708 Views
Well, that right there was an ignorant thing to say. Dannymac - 22/09/2011 04:32:49 PM 764 Views
But they get all the media attention Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:45:03 PM 658 Views
Er. Nate - 22/09/2011 05:09:44 PM 660 Views
What about the t-shirts? *NM* Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 05:47:49 PM 269 Views
Heh... you should perhaps Google 'The West Memphis 3' Jacob - 22/09/2011 05:29:06 PM 732 Views
Cameron Todd Willingham is white, and his story is a national one since Perry is running for Pres Roland00 - 23/09/2011 03:41:52 PM 546 Views
those numbers are less schocking when you consider that blacks commet a lot more murders *NM* random thoughts - 22/09/2011 05:43:51 PM 291 Views
And this is a typically illogical argument. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:11:48 PM 697 Views
You're kidding, right? Dannymac - 23/09/2011 02:55:44 PM 642 Views
Re: You're kidding, right? ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 07:36:38 PM 661 Views
Juror bias. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/09/2011 08:35:10 PM 258 Views
the jury was majority black *NM* random thoughts - 23/09/2011 09:03:48 PM 271 Views
In this instance, yes. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/09/2011 09:30:10 PM 229 Views
Your evidence for that? *NM* ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 11:33:58 PM 263 Views
Twenty-one years of life in the American South. Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 12:40:10 AM 618 Views
Of course I'm interested ßelals Girl - 24/09/2011 04:03:51 AM 550 Views
From me being too involved with the subject material. I apologize. Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 11:16:06 AM 530 Views
No worries ßelals Girl - 24/09/2011 07:10:40 PM 511 Views
While I largely agree with your argument, I agree more with Cannoli on the NAACP. Joel - 23/09/2011 07:46:06 PM 596 Views
Wow ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 07:50:06 PM 509 Views
It happens. Joel - 25/09/2011 03:09:00 PM 552 Views
yes the "you born white what more do you want" argument *NM* random thoughts - 23/09/2011 09:03:04 PM 258 Views
From what I've read it is pretty disturbing snoopcester - 22/09/2011 04:27:44 PM 736 Views
Huh. Nate - 22/09/2011 04:47:20 PM 722 Views
That jumped out at me too. Sareitha Sedai - 22/09/2011 04:50:52 PM 645 Views
What really confuses me Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:58:32 PM 610 Views
That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed. Sareitha Sedai - 22/09/2011 05:05:40 PM 678 Views
Re: That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed. Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:21:59 PM 737 Views
If the original trial is shown to be flawed that's supposed to require a new trial. Joel - 22/09/2011 08:25:51 PM 573 Views
Well... Jacob - 22/09/2011 05:18:54 PM 756 Views
So if I understand you correctly... LadyLorraine - 22/09/2011 05:23:00 PM 694 Views
Yes, that is correct. And proving witness coercion is likely to be difficult if not impossible. *NM* Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:30:37 PM 231 Views
almost random thoughts - 22/09/2011 08:25:06 PM 583 Views
Re: Well... Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:29:03 PM 659 Views
I know one reason is that MightyYT - 22/09/2011 08:27:41 PM 650 Views
it is only confusing because the evidence isn't really that shaky random thoughts - 22/09/2011 08:54:21 PM 620 Views
you are innocent until proven guilty random thoughts - 22/09/2011 05:34:57 PM 665 Views
You must change your perspective..... Jeordam - 22/09/2011 07:33:20 PM 649 Views
Well said *NM* Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 08:49:56 PM 287 Views
If I understand the Supreme Court correctly, the reason they denied the stay of execution was MightyYT - 22/09/2011 08:25:14 PM 674 Views
On its face, that is a good reason. Joel - 22/09/2011 10:07:44 PM 703 Views
I completely support the Death Penalty without question..... trzaska2000 - 22/09/2011 08:27:54 PM 579 Views
Unreasonable doubt is impossible to eliminate. Joel - 22/09/2011 09:54:43 PM 655 Views
Doubt can be eliminated.....any question about Dalmer? trzaska2000 - 23/09/2011 01:00:52 PM 625 Views
Maybe he was framed by an enemy, government conspiracy or aliens. Joel - 23/09/2011 01:54:21 PM 602 Views
Jigga what? *NM* trzaska2000 - 23/09/2011 03:36:07 PM 291 Views
"I do not know if I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly or am now a butterfly..." Joel - 23/09/2011 06:50:34 PM 577 Views
Circumstantial evidence is not, I believe, a bar to conviction. Joel - 22/09/2011 09:43:56 PM 549 Views
Regarding the salvation thing, that is an argument FOR the death penalty, in my mind. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:37:16 PM 623 Views
That motive is seflish and thus fatal. Joel - 23/09/2011 01:17:00 AM 562 Views
Bullshit Cannoli - 25/09/2011 03:53:05 AM 790 Views
Where do YOU get the idea that imperfect contrition is good enough? Joel - 25/09/2011 02:29:18 PM 1062 Views
Thank God you're not an evangelist. Dannymac - 23/09/2011 02:59:06 PM 583 Views
And I pity the souls you have ministered to. They're in for a rude shock at their judgement Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:01:05 AM 613 Views
lol roman catholicism *NM* Ghavrel - 25/09/2011 04:39:55 AM 240 Views
Not just Roman Catholics, y'know, everyone who thinks God was not BSing about judgement. Joel - 25/09/2011 09:47:12 PM 640 Views
lol hellfire and brimstone *NM* Ghavrel - 26/09/2011 12:12:28 AM 236 Views
I suppose in a consequences free world everything is a source of amusement. Joel - 26/09/2011 12:33:14 AM 777 Views
You really don't understand irony, do you? Particularly as it applies to your post about this case. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:26:49 PM 670 Views
. Two Wongs - 23/09/2011 08:21:38 AM 617 Views
A list of anecdotal wrongs does not prove anything. If convictions can be wrong, so can exonerations *NM* Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:03:26 AM 241 Views
Yes; it's the uncertainties that count. Either way. Two Wongs - 25/09/2011 04:15:48 AM 443 Views
sorry if i don't have time to link to every thing i've read on the subject moondog - 23/09/2011 02:54:50 PM 736 Views
Well I would think you would have picked an article that offers some iota of proof of his innocence. Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:14:45 AM 665 Views
I kind of agree. Vivien - 24/09/2011 12:05:27 AM 627 Views
Well, I wouldn't call eyewitness accounts circumstancial evidence. Vivien - 23/09/2011 11:45:48 PM 604 Views
Eyewitness testimony is incredibly unreliable. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 12:39:51 AM 236 Views
Nor would I, but I've heard that lawyers say, "an eye witness is the worst witness you can have." Joel - 25/09/2011 03:23:53 PM 637 Views
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