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Well, I wouldn't call eyewitness accounts circumstancial evidence. Vivien Send a noteboard - 23/09/2011 11:45:48 PM
Circumstancial evidence is more like the victim was shot with a particular type of gun and the suspect owns such a gun. Then again, eyewitness testimony could also be circumstancial- if they didn't witness the crime taking place, but only testified that the suspect was seen near the scene of the crime or something like that. But I hope that's usually not what's meant by eyewitness testimony. That said, I know nothing about this case.


whether or not Troy Davis was guilty, the fact that someone can be executed with ZERO physical evidence tying them to the crime is beyond the pale. it has long been established that eyewitness accounts are not 100% reliable as evidence, but yet not only did a jury decide that the eyewitness accounts were enough to convict, they handed down a death sentence as well. then when 7 of 9 eyewitnesses recanted their testimony, it still wasn't enough to prevent the execution.

zero physical evidence, 7 of 9 eyewitnesses coming forward to say they were either wrong or coerced by police to give misleading testimony and yet we still put the convicted man to death for it. yay.... :[
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i'm proud to live in a country where you can be executed based on circumstantial evidence... moondog - 22/09/2011 04:06:07 PM 1334 Views
Yeah it's pretty damn disgusting and frustrating... ironclad - 22/09/2011 04:08:05 PM 648 Views
Well nossy - 22/09/2011 06:57:37 PM 688 Views
And yet the Supreme Court didn't stop it. You're a lawyer right? Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:19:05 PM 709 Views
Well, that right there was an ignorant thing to say. Dannymac - 22/09/2011 04:32:49 PM 765 Views
But they get all the media attention Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:45:03 PM 659 Views
Er. Nate - 22/09/2011 05:09:44 PM 660 Views
What about the t-shirts? *NM* Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 05:47:49 PM 270 Views
Heh... you should perhaps Google 'The West Memphis 3' Jacob - 22/09/2011 05:29:06 PM 732 Views
Cameron Todd Willingham is white, and his story is a national one since Perry is running for Pres Roland00 - 23/09/2011 03:41:52 PM 546 Views
those numbers are less schocking when you consider that blacks commet a lot more murders *NM* random thoughts - 22/09/2011 05:43:51 PM 291 Views
And this is a typically illogical argument. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:11:48 PM 698 Views
You're kidding, right? Dannymac - 23/09/2011 02:55:44 PM 643 Views
Re: You're kidding, right? ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 07:36:38 PM 662 Views
Juror bias. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/09/2011 08:35:10 PM 259 Views
the jury was majority black *NM* random thoughts - 23/09/2011 09:03:48 PM 272 Views
In this instance, yes. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/09/2011 09:30:10 PM 230 Views
Your evidence for that? *NM* ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 11:33:58 PM 264 Views
Twenty-one years of life in the American South. Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 12:40:10 AM 619 Views
Of course I'm interested ßelals Girl - 24/09/2011 04:03:51 AM 551 Views
From me being too involved with the subject material. I apologize. Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 11:16:06 AM 531 Views
No worries ßelals Girl - 24/09/2011 07:10:40 PM 512 Views
While I largely agree with your argument, I agree more with Cannoli on the NAACP. Joel - 23/09/2011 07:46:06 PM 597 Views
Wow ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 07:50:06 PM 510 Views
It happens. Joel - 25/09/2011 03:09:00 PM 552 Views
yes the "you born white what more do you want" argument *NM* random thoughts - 23/09/2011 09:03:04 PM 258 Views
From what I've read it is pretty disturbing snoopcester - 22/09/2011 04:27:44 PM 737 Views
Huh. Nate - 22/09/2011 04:47:20 PM 723 Views
That jumped out at me too. Sareitha Sedai - 22/09/2011 04:50:52 PM 646 Views
What really confuses me Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:58:32 PM 611 Views
That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed. Sareitha Sedai - 22/09/2011 05:05:40 PM 679 Views
Re: That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed. Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:21:59 PM 738 Views
If the original trial is shown to be flawed that's supposed to require a new trial. Joel - 22/09/2011 08:25:51 PM 575 Views
Well... Jacob - 22/09/2011 05:18:54 PM 756 Views
So if I understand you correctly... LadyLorraine - 22/09/2011 05:23:00 PM 695 Views
Yes, that is correct. And proving witness coercion is likely to be difficult if not impossible. *NM* Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:30:37 PM 232 Views
almost random thoughts - 22/09/2011 08:25:06 PM 584 Views
Re: Well... Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:29:03 PM 660 Views
I know one reason is that MightyYT - 22/09/2011 08:27:41 PM 651 Views
it is only confusing because the evidence isn't really that shaky random thoughts - 22/09/2011 08:54:21 PM 621 Views
you are innocent until proven guilty random thoughts - 22/09/2011 05:34:57 PM 666 Views
You must change your perspective..... Jeordam - 22/09/2011 07:33:20 PM 650 Views
Well said *NM* Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 08:49:56 PM 287 Views
If I understand the Supreme Court correctly, the reason they denied the stay of execution was MightyYT - 22/09/2011 08:25:14 PM 675 Views
On its face, that is a good reason. Joel - 22/09/2011 10:07:44 PM 704 Views
I completely support the Death Penalty without question..... trzaska2000 - 22/09/2011 08:27:54 PM 580 Views
Unreasonable doubt is impossible to eliminate. Joel - 22/09/2011 09:54:43 PM 655 Views
Doubt can be eliminated.....any question about Dalmer? trzaska2000 - 23/09/2011 01:00:52 PM 626 Views
Maybe he was framed by an enemy, government conspiracy or aliens. Joel - 23/09/2011 01:54:21 PM 603 Views
Jigga what? *NM* trzaska2000 - 23/09/2011 03:36:07 PM 291 Views
"I do not know if I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly or am now a butterfly..." Joel - 23/09/2011 06:50:34 PM 577 Views
Circumstantial evidence is not, I believe, a bar to conviction. Joel - 22/09/2011 09:43:56 PM 550 Views
Regarding the salvation thing, that is an argument FOR the death penalty, in my mind. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:37:16 PM 624 Views
That motive is seflish and thus fatal. Joel - 23/09/2011 01:17:00 AM 563 Views
Bullshit Cannoli - 25/09/2011 03:53:05 AM 791 Views
Where do YOU get the idea that imperfect contrition is good enough? Joel - 25/09/2011 02:29:18 PM 1062 Views
Thank God you're not an evangelist. Dannymac - 23/09/2011 02:59:06 PM 584 Views
And I pity the souls you have ministered to. They're in for a rude shock at their judgement Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:01:05 AM 614 Views
lol roman catholicism *NM* Ghavrel - 25/09/2011 04:39:55 AM 240 Views
Not just Roman Catholics, y'know, everyone who thinks God was not BSing about judgement. Joel - 25/09/2011 09:47:12 PM 641 Views
lol hellfire and brimstone *NM* Ghavrel - 26/09/2011 12:12:28 AM 237 Views
I suppose in a consequences free world everything is a source of amusement. Joel - 26/09/2011 12:33:14 AM 778 Views
You really don't understand irony, do you? Particularly as it applies to your post about this case. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:26:49 PM 671 Views
. Two Wongs - 23/09/2011 08:21:38 AM 618 Views
A list of anecdotal wrongs does not prove anything. If convictions can be wrong, so can exonerations *NM* Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:03:26 AM 242 Views
Yes; it's the uncertainties that count. Either way. Two Wongs - 25/09/2011 04:15:48 AM 444 Views
sorry if i don't have time to link to every thing i've read on the subject moondog - 23/09/2011 02:54:50 PM 737 Views
Well I would think you would have picked an article that offers some iota of proof of his innocence. Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:14:45 AM 666 Views
I kind of agree. Vivien - 24/09/2011 12:05:27 AM 628 Views
Well, I wouldn't call eyewitness accounts circumstancial evidence. Vivien - 23/09/2011 11:45:48 PM 605 Views
Eyewitness testimony is incredibly unreliable. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 12:39:51 AM 237 Views
Nor would I, but I've heard that lawyers say, "an eye witness is the worst witness you can have." Joel - 25/09/2011 03:23:53 PM 638 Views
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