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How much violence has there actually been? Joel Send a noteboard - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM
As fellow American citizens, We are calling upon all People with Nothing Better To Do to go home already.

Ignore the ill begotten orders coming down from your organizers and their hippie-masters to bleat, tent, urinate and defecate wherever you happen to be.

Listen to the words of any true American and heed the call to take responsibility for your own actions and decisions.

Know that there is no honor in anything you are currently doing with your so called protest, especially with the violence, drugs, and sex offenses that are happening where you congregate.

Know from this moment on, all who deem themselves Occupy-whatevers will be considered morons. Two months is more than long enough to elucidate a coherent philosophy instead of a vague, ill-defined "spirit of the movement."

Lay down your megaphone, lay down your twinkle-fingers, pack up your tent, your latrine if you bothered to create one, your bongs, and your pipes. Turn to your organizer and say: "Sir, no more. I will not allow you to disparage what it means to be a member of this great nation. I will think for myself for a change and understand that it is MY responsibility to pay my student loans, credit card debt, and mortgage. You sir, are not a member of the 99% of the People of the United States.

The American people are not going to tolerate the abuses coming out of the occupy movement, the blatant disregard for civil law, or the disrespect that the backwards movement with no definition has shown and is continuing to show honest, hard working, responsible People of the United States.

Actions such as those are no longer acceptable, period. You must stop it now. There are plenty of jobs and pay that many across America have not resorted trying to shuck their responsibility on the rest.

Show yourselves to be true and honorable American citizens, and live up to the ideals that made America great in the first place. Stop abusing the people.

Signed,

Those Too Busy Living to Give a Damn That You Don't Want to Pay Your Bills.

I saw everyname mention a battery thrown at a cop (which makes OWSers as dangerous to public safety as the average Philadelphia sports fan, not that that is a compliment,) and I obviously do not condone or approve the threatened retaliatory violence in that other open letter, but apart from that, is this anything more than

"You are un-American and suck!"

"No, you!"

'Cos last I heard, of the many phrases applicable to America at present, "plenty of jobs" was not one of them. The numbers I keep hearing are that unemployment is around 10% and underemployment (the number of people who took jobs that do not pay their bills because they still HAVE bills and/or too much self respect to live off charity if they can even get it) is around twice that. I have yet to see any OWSers offer any constructive solutions to that problem, but, to continue the popular comparison, if the Tea Party had been restricted to two months to articulate their platform and goals we could have stopped hearing about them in May of '10 instead of having them screw up the midterms for BOTH major parties and paralyze government ever since. Not that I regard screwing both major parties as a necessarily bad thing, but there is that whole "constructive solutions" thing again, and I have YET to see any of from the folks who now have 60 seats in Congress (no, "declare America bankrupt and blame Obama when the nations credit is canceled" is not a constructive solution.) If OWS has to shut up because they have offered nothing worthwhile in two months, does the Tea Party have to shut up because they have offered nothing worthwhile in two YEARS? If so, does that mean we can have governors or special elections replace the idiots in those sixty House seats?
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An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 2047 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 685 Views
Yeah, 'cos YTs comments are all about disobedience, and the OWSers are all about submission. - 20/11/2011 12:24:36 PM 1181 Views
Actually, my comment are about taking responsibility for yourself. *NM* - 20/11/2011 05:48:33 PM 675 Views
Some of them are doing just that. - 21/11/2011 11:14:58 PM 1058 Views
As usual you miss the point completely. *NM* - 20/11/2011 08:27:02 PM 675 Views
How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM 1175 Views
Re: How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM 1249 Views
Because it's easy. - 20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM 1147 Views
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM 1075 Views
Completely agree. *NM* - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 743 Views
Asian parents have the right idea - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM 1187 Views
because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 1123 Views
every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) .... - 20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM 1165 Views
I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that - 20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM 1157 Views
You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 619 Views
lol! oops! *edit* fail. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:42:33 PM 631 Views
I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 1121 Views
Well... - 21/11/2011 05:39:09 AM 1109 Views
Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM 576 Views
To take it a step further - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 1111 Views
I agree 100%. - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 1025 Views
they are. - 21/11/2011 06:55:27 PM 1073 Views
HUZZAH! Very well said. - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 1146 Views
"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM* - 20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM 635 Views
Yep, there are lots of jobs... - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 1174 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 1200 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 1171 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 1103 Views
*NM* - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 624 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 1161 Views
but what kind of jobs? - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 992 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 1274 Views
Im a nurse - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 1115 Views
I actually have a lot of respect for plastic surgeons outside pure cosmetics - 21/11/2011 01:02:59 AM 1169 Views
job that pay money - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 1132 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 1164 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM 1069 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM 1204 Views
That's a shitty situation - 21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM 1019 Views
While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM 962 Views
no I realize that - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 945 Views
First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables. - 20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM 1098 Views
Thats a big problem, Aisha - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 1034 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 602 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 1168 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 1213 Views
I may need to be more concise about something - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 1150 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 1007 Views
Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons? - 20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM 1068 Views
You know what he meant. - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 1135 Views
Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886. - 22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM 1102 Views
You do realize... - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 1038 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 1116 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 1129 Views
That looks a little shaky. - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 1144 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 1180 Views
I love this post. *NM* - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 616 Views
Good post - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 1105 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 1044 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 1128 Views
"There is no right to work"? - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 1112 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 593 Views
Ikke ennĂ¥. - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 1156 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 644 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 1044 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 1139 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 1116 Views
I am also not Dan. - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 980 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 1171 Views
I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled - 22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM 1195 Views

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