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How much violence has there actually been? Joel Send a noteboard - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM
As fellow American citizens, We are calling upon all People with Nothing Better To Do to go home already.

Ignore the ill begotten orders coming down from your organizers and their hippie-masters to bleat, tent, urinate and defecate wherever you happen to be.

Listen to the words of any true American and heed the call to take responsibility for your own actions and decisions.

Know that there is no honor in anything you are currently doing with your so called protest, especially with the violence, drugs, and sex offenses that are happening where you congregate.

Know from this moment on, all who deem themselves Occupy-whatevers will be considered morons. Two months is more than long enough to elucidate a coherent philosophy instead of a vague, ill-defined "spirit of the movement."

Lay down your megaphone, lay down your twinkle-fingers, pack up your tent, your latrine if you bothered to create one, your bongs, and your pipes. Turn to your organizer and say: "Sir, no more. I will not allow you to disparage what it means to be a member of this great nation. I will think for myself for a change and understand that it is MY responsibility to pay my student loans, credit card debt, and mortgage. You sir, are not a member of the 99% of the People of the United States.

The American people are not going to tolerate the abuses coming out of the occupy movement, the blatant disregard for civil law, or the disrespect that the backwards movement with no definition has shown and is continuing to show honest, hard working, responsible People of the United States.

Actions such as those are no longer acceptable, period. You must stop it now. There are plenty of jobs and pay that many across America have not resorted trying to shuck their responsibility on the rest.

Show yourselves to be true and honorable American citizens, and live up to the ideals that made America great in the first place. Stop abusing the people.

Signed,

Those Too Busy Living to Give a Damn That You Don't Want to Pay Your Bills.

I saw everyname mention a battery thrown at a cop (which makes OWSers as dangerous to public safety as the average Philadelphia sports fan, not that that is a compliment,) and I obviously do not condone or approve the threatened retaliatory violence in that other open letter, but apart from that, is this anything more than

"You are un-American and suck!"

"No, you!"

'Cos last I heard, of the many phrases applicable to America at present, "plenty of jobs" was not one of them. The numbers I keep hearing are that unemployment is around 10% and underemployment (the number of people who took jobs that do not pay their bills because they still HAVE bills and/or too much self respect to live off charity if they can even get it) is around twice that. I have yet to see any OWSers offer any constructive solutions to that problem, but, to continue the popular comparison, if the Tea Party had been restricted to two months to articulate their platform and goals we could have stopped hearing about them in May of '10 instead of having them screw up the midterms for BOTH major parties and paralyze government ever since. Not that I regard screwing both major parties as a necessarily bad thing, but there is that whole "constructive solutions" thing again, and I have YET to see any of from the folks who now have 60 seats in Congress (no, "declare America bankrupt and blame Obama when the nations credit is canceled" is not a constructive solution.) If OWS has to shut up because they have offered nothing worthwhile in two months, does the Tea Party have to shut up because they have offered nothing worthwhile in two YEARS? If so, does that mean we can have governors or special elections replace the idiots in those sixty House seats?
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An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 1843 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 567 Views
Yeah, 'cos YTs comments are all about disobedience, and the OWSers are all about submission. - 20/11/2011 12:24:36 PM 957 Views
Actually, my comment are about taking responsibility for yourself. *NM* - 20/11/2011 05:48:33 PM 576 Views
Some of them are doing just that. - 21/11/2011 11:14:58 PM 865 Views
As usual you miss the point completely. *NM* - 20/11/2011 08:27:02 PM 571 Views
How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM 960 Views
Re: How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM 1039 Views
Because it's easy. - 20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM 937 Views
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM 854 Views
Completely agree. *NM* - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 635 Views
Asian parents have the right idea - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM 985 Views
because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 929 Views
every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) .... - 20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM 960 Views
I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that - 20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM 952 Views
You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 520 Views
lol! oops! *edit* fail. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:42:33 PM 535 Views
I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 927 Views
Well... - 21/11/2011 05:39:09 AM 885 Views
Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM 471 Views
To take it a step further - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 884 Views
I agree 100%. - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 816 Views
they are. - 21/11/2011 06:55:27 PM 874 Views
HUZZAH! Very well said. - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 936 Views
"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM* - 20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM 533 Views
Yep, there are lots of jobs... - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 972 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 994 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 971 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 889 Views
*NM* - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 525 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 961 Views
but what kind of jobs? - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 782 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 1024 Views
Im a nurse - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 900 Views
job that pay money - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 933 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 934 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM 863 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM 972 Views
That's a shitty situation - 21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM 826 Views
While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM 763 Views
no I realize that - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 729 Views
First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables. - 20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM 905 Views
Thats a big problem, Aisha - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 835 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 503 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 908 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 1010 Views
I may need to be more concise about something - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 940 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 802 Views
Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons? - 20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM 867 Views
You know what he meant. - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 930 Views
Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886. - 22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM 886 Views
You do realize... - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 842 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 904 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 914 Views
That looks a little shaky. - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 922 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 974 Views
I love this post. *NM* - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 517 Views
Good post - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 927 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 832 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 920 Views
"There is no right to work"? - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 914 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 495 Views
Ikke ennĂ¥. - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 890 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 546 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 826 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 917 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 887 Views
I am also not Dan. - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 776 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 974 Views
I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled - 22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM 1003 Views

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