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That doesn't really make sense. Sareitha Sedai Send a noteboard - 21/12/2011 03:04:23 PM
I didn't immediately associate my dream with the event, that's all. I was very cognizant that I had had the dream, and that I had told my friends about it and said it was one of those dreams that had the particular feel that it would come true.

I was just on the verge of conceding that I had been wrong, that the entire means by which I assessed if a dream had elements of prediction in it was wrong, and that the previous seven or eight such dreams were just a long line of coincidences.


Despite believing that your dreams have some sort of supernatural predictive value, you didn't associate a dream (that you were expecting to be predictive) about a plane floating down the river with an actual plane in that actual river a few months later?

And frankly, you're changing your story. You said, "When the "Miracle on the Hudson" happened, I had forgotten about the dream but my friends quickly reminded me" (emphasis mine). That's a pretty clear statement that contradicts what what you're claiming to have meant now. But I'm not going to argue the point with you. Neither version really makes a lot of sense, and I don't expect you to accept the version that allows for the possibility of confirmation bias.






If you are from Betelgeuse, please have one of your Earth friends read what I've written before you respond. Or try concentrating harder.

"The trophy problem has become extreme."
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This militant atheism is somewhat amusing. Tom - 20/12/2011 09:48:57 PM 944 Views
... somewhat irrational at times too Isaac - 21/12/2011 01:22:54 AM 859 Views
Huh? snoopcester - 21/12/2011 10:47:06 AM 919 Views
That's somewhat unrelated to the intended point of the post Isaac - 21/12/2011 12:41:49 PM 921 Views
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You're objecting to me calling the Military Dictator militant? Isaac - 21/12/2011 03:13:35 PM 964 Views
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How about a faith atheist? Palatine - 19/12/2011 04:28:59 PM 1050 Views
Nevermind. It appears you answered that in your reply to Tim. *NM* Palatine - 19/12/2011 04:32:19 PM 514 Views
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Idiocy. Confirmation bias doesn't explain away external phenomena. Tom - 20/12/2011 04:19:10 AM 962 Views
Well. Sareitha Sedai - 21/12/2011 01:49:36 PM 974 Views
I didn't forget about it. I was getting ready to give up on it. Tom - 21/12/2011 02:27:18 PM 867 Views
That doesn't really make sense. Sareitha Sedai - 21/12/2011 03:04:23 PM 803 Views
No, it does make perfect sense. Tom - 21/12/2011 06:17:02 PM 990 Views
Also, learn to use the subjunctive. It's "if I WERE a Christian..." Tom - 19/12/2011 03:54:20 AM 964 Views
The sad thing about that comment... Larry - 19/12/2011 04:52:57 AM 1089 Views
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The article I just read said he died on Saturday. Rebekah - 19/12/2011 08:58:17 AM 948 Views
Yeah, he actually died on a train Saturday morning before Tom made the comment. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/12/2011 09:13:44 PM 396 Views
I'm not claiming causality. And, for the record, I first made the comment on Friday afternoon. Tom - 20/12/2011 04:25:07 AM 945 Views
You know what's really weird? Isaac - 19/12/2011 11:32:23 AM 942 Views
It has been there for 6 hours at this stage. Stephen - 19/12/2011 12:34:57 PM 1026 Views
don't forget Mugabe (sp) Yunalesca - 19/12/2011 01:06:24 PM 874 Views
Zimbabwe basically is dust by now. *NM* Tim - 19/12/2011 02:52:51 PM 433 Views
They took it down, apparently. *NM* Tom - 20/12/2011 04:40:24 AM 421 Views
Not surprising, still in the revisions if anyone wants to see of course Isaac - 20/12/2011 11:06:05 AM 1122 Views
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all praise Madokami! *NM* Yunalesca - 19/12/2011 01:03:26 PM 490 Views
He's not dead-dead. Neither is his father. Just ask the North Koreans. Palatine - 19/12/2011 04:23:48 PM 922 Views
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That happened to me too. Nate - 19/12/2011 09:45:48 PM 1002 Views
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Re: Legend Palatine - 20/12/2011 04:54:40 PM 889 Views
I wonder if they're going to embalm him? Tom - 20/12/2011 04:39:33 AM 829 Views
The problem with predictions that come true Vivien - 19/12/2011 05:28:24 PM 981 Views
I don't make a lot of predictions. *NM* Tom - 19/12/2011 08:18:53 PM 549 Views
Well you should start at least journaling the ones that you do make. Vivien - 19/12/2011 08:40:18 PM 933 Views
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Just ones about old, sick guys dying? *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 19/12/2011 09:51:12 PM 388 Views
No, sadly. Tom - 20/12/2011 04:31:44 AM 800 Views
I can attest to the fact that this conversation took place on Facebook Saturday. TaskmasterJack - 19/12/2011 09:19:06 PM 872 Views
Yeah, I thought that reply seemed in the wrong place Isaac - 19/12/2011 09:28:17 PM 876 Views
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I am not a dog to be petted! TaskmasterJack - 21/12/2011 02:42:55 AM 873 Views
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Not to downplay your awesomely uncanny coincidence... Avendesora - 20/12/2011 01:19:33 PM 884 Views
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