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Re: since you asked... Dark Knight Send a noteboard - 01/02/2012 09:44:03 PM
Yes, orgasm is the purpose of sex. I, however, have had a couple of situations where I didn't feel an orgasm coming. My girlfriend already orgasmed 2 times so I was fine in stopping. IT WAS MY CHOICE. It doesn't change the fact that the purpose of sex is to experience the intense pleasure of an orgasm. Ok, so you argue that it is a narrow view of sex. So prove me wrong. What other views are there? To have a baby, ok. What else? Anything?

Reasons to have sex (in no particular order):

1) Orgasm


Check

2) Reproduction


Check

3) Fun


Same thing as pleasure

4) Societal Bonding


Huh?

5) Boredom


Bored sex? Ok, I guess, but why go through with it if not for pleasure? Just asking.

6) Tequila


Still done for pleasure. Tequila is just the cause of the sex.

7) Exchange of goods (i.e. prostitution/similar)


That's pleasure for the person buying.

It's called science. A woman doesn't lose anything when she has an orgasm. More likely than not, a man will lose his hard-on! It's science making my claim, not me. And let me say, once again, THESE ARE NOT RULES AND REGULATIONS. Nowhere did I say I was writing the bible on sex. This is my PERSONAL opinion based on PERSONAL experience.

Your "science" is wrong or is looking through a very narrow definition of "losing anything". Yes, a woman doesn't lose a "hard on", but we can lose clitoral erection for a time and an increased stimulus may be too painful for some women. Also, some women DON'T have multiple orgasms. I will usually only have ONE good clitoral orgasm and after that I'm done. I can keep playing around (just like a man can), but I'm really rather done. Yes, if you want to be nitpicky, I CAN continue to have sex because my vagina doesn't shrivel up and close. But it's really no more entertaining for me than a man fingering a woman after he's orgasmed.


I agree with everything you said. My point was that it's still possible to have sex as a woman after an orgasm. Desireable? Maybe not. But typically a man CAN'T have sex, even if he really wants to. This is not all men or all the time, mind you. But, generally speaking, the hard-on goes soft after orgasm.

That's because, in my PERSONAL experience, not a scientific study ok, guys can be selfish bastards. Once they're done, that's it. Now, there is some science on my side. The release of a chemical after orgasm that makes a man sleepy. But I don't care about that. Women want to experience pleasure just as much as men. So I don't think men should leave their women unsatisifed. That's just my PERSONAL opinion. I am not saying everyone should be like this.

I can't speak for all women, but if I have a full-blown orgasm I get insanely sleepy. Like...curl up in a ball and nap for a couple hours sleepy, sometimes. This is one of the reasons that, personally, I DON'T want to orgasm everytime I have sex. If I want to continue to want to/have sex that day (which sometimes I do, when the opportunity is available), I need to hold off. That and it's hard to pay attention in class when I'm that sleepy.


Women get sleepy too, absolutely. I'm just trying to say why it's hard to pleasure the other person after you have orgasmed. So I guess it goes both ways!

Your anger at having people disagree tells me that--even if you're not saying everyone should be like that--you don't want people to disagree with you either. Helene isn't taking an unreasonable tone with you, but YOU are the one freaking out like she just slapped your mother.


I'm honestly not mad that people disagreed with me. Believe me. I snapped because, for whatever reason, people personally insulted me. So, yeah, I lost my temper. I can angry-type pretty fast! I should have cooled down first.

I understand you feel insulted, dude...but you're the only one freaking out here. Someone was bound to disagree with you and while people shouldn't have jumped down your throat, you're way over reacting about a topic a that's insanely subjective.


Again, just reacting to the insults. I have no problem with disagreements. This Helene person keeps try to hammer away at me. I'm not so much as disagreeing with her as much as I am trying to defend my PERSONAL opinions while she's insulting me for having them.
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Uncomfortable sex facts (because this board needs more spice) Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 04:56:13 PM 2629 Views
there's nothing wrong with laughter in general LadyLorraine - 31/01/2012 05:14:23 PM 1392 Views
There is a reason it is uncomfortable. Narg - 31/01/2012 05:43:22 PM 1579 Views
What, are we going to get stupid clichés about geeks on a geek site? Legolas - 01/02/2012 09:59:41 PM 1381 Views
Wait, wait, wait! Rebekah - 01/02/2012 10:08:38 PM 1359 Views
I didn't exactly think this was a mystery... Legolas - 01/02/2012 10:15:57 PM 1319 Views
It was to me! Rebekah - 01/02/2012 10:19:15 PM 1436 Views
I see. Legolas - 01/02/2012 10:24:47 PM 1262 Views
Re: I see. Rebekah - 01/02/2012 10:28:50 PM 1316 Views
Come back when you're an adult. *NM* Tom - 31/01/2012 05:59:52 PM 733 Views
Ok I'm back *NM* Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 06:03:57 PM 836 Views
Oh please. *NM* Aeryn - 01/02/2012 07:02:10 PM 765 Views
It's pretty clear that the poster is hypersensitive and immature. Tom - 01/02/2012 07:54:55 PM 1341 Views
It's called anger. Call it immaturity if it suits you. Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 08:04:23 PM 1431 Views
You also act as if I actively insulted you... which I haven't. *NM* Helene - 01/02/2012 09:35:48 PM 812 Views
Actively? Maybe, maybe not. Passively? Definitely Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:57:02 PM 1336 Views
I think her point is that she's not using that phrase as an insult LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 10:01:13 PM 1172 Views
I like your list. Orange - 31/01/2012 06:00:28 PM 1348 Views
Oh for goodness sake I don't even know where to start, there's so much wrong with this. Morgawse - 31/01/2012 07:02:34 PM 1503 Views
How old are you? Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 07:36:33 PM 1317 Views
26. Not that I can see how it matters. Morgawse - 31/01/2012 07:40:43 PM 1545 Views
Re: 26. Not that I can see how it matters. Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 08:04:52 PM 1586 Views
Someone tells you to grow up and this your response? Narg - 31/01/2012 09:51:31 PM 1465 Views
Yes, it is a mature, reasonable angry response Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 10:10:08 PM 1450 Views
Re: Yes, it is a mature, reasonable angry response Morgawse - 31/01/2012 10:43:16 PM 1370 Views
No, I was filling in the blank Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 10:52:30 PM 1347 Views
I think you'll find the arrow was supposed to point at the quote of your post below. Legolas - 31/01/2012 11:11:15 PM 1261 Views
It's not so much that what you write is "wrong", but it shows you are a bit naive and inexperienced Helene - 31/01/2012 07:28:09 PM 1493 Views
Jesus Christ people Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 07:35:28 PM 1480 Views
LOL... I'm not a prude. Let me elaborate. Helene - 31/01/2012 08:19:22 PM 1482 Views
aah ah aha your last paragraph made me laugh LadyLorraine - 31/01/2012 08:26:12 PM 1407 Views
and yet another advantage of marriage Ray - 02/02/2012 04:45:41 PM 1375 Views
Re: LOL... I'm not a prude. Let me elaborate. Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 09:47:23 PM 1382 Views
Just to jump in for a second. heartbreak - 31/01/2012 10:50:12 PM 1506 Views
People seem to be missing my point Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 10:58:42 PM 1394 Views
'Weird' is a loaded word. It carries a judgment. Morgawse - 31/01/2012 11:03:12 PM 1341 Views
Goodness, people, they are not "rules." He clearly states these are his PERSONAL opinions. Aeryn - 01/02/2012 07:10:27 PM 1294 Views
#3 is really not an option. Not with this crowd, anyways *NM* Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 08:06:25 PM 767 Views
I point you to the title of his post: "Uncomfortable sex FACTS" (caps mine). Rebekah - 01/02/2012 09:36:00 PM 1279 Views
Facts for me *NM* Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:44:43 PM 735 Views
*NM* Rebekah - 01/02/2012 09:46:06 PM 735 Views
....That is not the definition of a fact. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 09:48:10 PM 725 Views
Wow, you really want to do this? Just let it go Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:53:52 PM 1291 Views
I wasn't about to pick a fight with you about it LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 09:56:42 PM 1359 Views
Quote: "Here are some musings from my personal experience". Context matters. Nitpicking is annoying. *NM* Aeryn - 02/02/2012 01:27:00 AM 768 Views
He made hard and fast rules??? callandor1000 - 01/02/2012 05:00:30 AM 1397 Views
This board takes itself very seriously at times, it's weird *NM* beetnemesis - 01/02/2012 02:00:04 PM 814 Views
Thank you! Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 03:25:57 PM 1276 Views
I'm still pretty confused. Many of the people who are acting immature towards you callandor1000 - 02/02/2012 05:27:49 AM 1296 Views
Different strokes for different folks Helene - 01/02/2012 04:38:45 PM 1374 Views
Please stop questioning my sexual experience Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 04:49:28 PM 1248 Views
You just complained that you don't have sex often enough to laugh during sex... and now claim to Helene - 01/02/2012 05:15:21 PM 1261 Views
I did? Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 05:37:55 PM 1174 Views
*snort* I don't think anyone should have jumped down your throat... LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 05:49:27 PM 1317 Views
Anybody who hasn't jumped down my throat hasn't replied with anything I can respond to Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 06:04:53 PM 1270 Views
To me, that just sounds like you're looking for agreement, not discussion LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 08:07:19 PM 1287 Views
I didn't call you a virgin...? Helene - 01/02/2012 08:23:25 PM 1269 Views
Man you just don't get it Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 08:43:21 PM 1366 Views
since you asked... LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 09:14:44 PM 1171 Views
Re: since you asked... Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:44:03 PM 1497 Views
Helene has yet to actually insult you LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 09:55:32 PM 1280 Views
I am overreacting a little bit Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 10:00:09 PM 1266 Views
see dude, here's part of the problem LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 10:03:27 PM 1196 Views
The caps really aren't going to help your case, you do realize... Legolas - 01/02/2012 09:16:50 PM 1284 Views
It was my last resort, man. I was talking to a brick wall *NM* Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:37:20 PM 780 Views
You're a real piece of work. *NM* Narg - 01/02/2012 09:20:45 PM 735 Views
How so? Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:45:41 PM 1229 Views
You sure get worked up Helene - 01/02/2012 09:29:34 PM 1215 Views
I suppose asking if "you're a bit of a twat" isn't an insult, but just a reasonable hypothesis? Dan - 02/02/2012 12:41:50 AM 1229 Views
So after someone uses the online equivalent of yelling at me Helene - 02/02/2012 12:58:06 AM 1308 Views
Yes, the twat comment wasn't okay either. ironclad - 02/02/2012 09:02:15 AM 1241 Views
And here I was about to write another post about hardcore pornography *NM* beetnemesis - 31/01/2012 07:31:14 PM 762 Views
While I agree with the ladies... ironclad - 31/01/2012 11:42:25 PM 1392 Views
One thing I learned this past year... MightyYT - 01/02/2012 05:48:51 AM 1307 Views
ironclad - 01/02/2012 08:26:05 AM 1482 Views
I think he does... Great Lord of Chaos - 01/02/2012 03:30:58 PM 1255 Views
I can't recall the scene. What was it again? *NM* Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 08:05:28 PM 735 Views
Not having to shave my balls is just anohter reason to be glad I am married *NM* Ray - 01/02/2012 04:56:19 PM 877 Views
well if the damn system is going to double post then add no condom required as another reason *NM* Ray - 01/02/2012 04:56:20 PM 746 Views
Don't know why everyone jumped on you like they did. Aeryn - 01/02/2012 07:07:14 PM 1426 Views
Thanks for the support Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 08:01:27 PM 1220 Views
Perhaps they don't read enough "sex advice" articles online? Every list is phrased that way. *NM* Aeryn - 02/02/2012 01:29:12 AM 723 Views
Admittedly, I tend to find online sex tips articles to be pretty juvinile too *NM* Helene - 02/02/2012 01:36:08 AM 765 Views
Ya don't say. Joel - 02/02/2012 11:21:45 PM 1226 Views
It means I'm not part of the target demographic for these articles. *NM* Helene - 03/02/2012 08:53:49 AM 742 Views
You linked me to one of them once upon a time. Joel - 03/02/2012 09:11:58 AM 1176 Views
The article I linked you to was wholly different from the type of article Aeryn was referring to Helene - 03/02/2012 03:03:50 PM 1378 Views
Ah, then I do not feel as bad (just maybe a bit guilty for the comparison.) Joel - 03/02/2012 03:22:52 PM 1219 Views
This thread cracks me up. *NM* Rebekah - 01/02/2012 09:34:52 PM 767 Views
It got out of hand, sadly Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:50:46 PM 1227 Views
That perennial issue of tone on the internet, huh? Rebekah - 01/02/2012 09:59:29 PM 1348 Views
ignoring things is usually the best way to keep them from squiggling out of hand LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 09:59:35 PM 1167 Views
True, true. I let my anger get the best of me. Lessons learned. Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 10:02:57 PM 1294 Views
that's because it's gross LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 10:05:36 PM 1422 Views
I'm kind of upset by it and wishing I hadn't posted at all, to be honest. Morgawse - 01/02/2012 10:58:51 PM 1799 Views
Uh huh, that discussion completely went south Stephen - 02/02/2012 12:27:02 AM 1253 Views
So full of shit. Dan - 02/02/2012 12:33:32 AM 1479 Views
Man, if I had a nickel for everytime THAT has happened.... Joel - 02/02/2012 11:16:07 PM 1317 Views
Agreed. Joel - 02/02/2012 11:19:41 PM 1110 Views
Helene and Morgawse are worthless and pedantic nothings. Ignore them next time. Thread was fine. *NM* Dan - 01/02/2012 10:40:53 PM 820 Views
....well thanks, buddy. *NM* Morgawse - 01/02/2012 10:57:07 PM 826 Views
Uncalled for and completely untrue ironclad - 01/02/2012 11:03:52 PM 1407 Views
Right. Really? Dan - 02/02/2012 12:36:28 AM 1450 Views
I referred to you making a rude and general statement about people I doubt you know very well ironclad - 02/02/2012 08:52:09 AM 1246 Views
I don't know what bone you have to pick with me, but I doubt I deserve it Helene - 02/02/2012 12:38:45 AM 1297 Views
And people complain about the political arguments. *NM* ranagrande - 02/02/2012 12:31:06 AM 725 Views
Just what I was thinking. Joel - 02/02/2012 11:17:16 PM 1169 Views
I laughed at this thread. Hard. *NM* Ghavrel - 02/02/2012 02:51:45 AM 681 Views
Heh-heh, heh-heh, you said "hard"! Macharius - 02/02/2012 04:06:43 AM 1216 Views
Man, there was some piling on in this thread. I didn't think your post was that bad. everynametaken - 02/02/2012 06:06:02 AM 1807 Views
LOL ironclad - 02/02/2012 09:01:22 AM 1381 Views
Re: LOL Macharius - 02/02/2012 04:36:10 PM 1305 Views
You misunderstood ironclad - 02/02/2012 06:20:15 PM 1301 Views
I think the board has PMS this week ßelals Girl - 02/02/2012 02:13:58 PM 1209 Views
Re: Uncomfortable sex facts (because this board needs more spice) j-whitt987 - 02/02/2012 02:47:45 PM 1469 Views
Too crass. For real spice try the hot sex in this video Sports_Gambler - 03/02/2012 12:30:21 PM 1277 Views
The cuts to a woman cleaning her kitchen kinda ruin it for me *NM* ironclad - 03/02/2012 12:36:25 PM 755 Views
Lets search for more hot sex scenes then *NM* Sports_Gambler - 03/02/2012 12:53:00 PM 741 Views
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