Is it such a travesty that someone who makes $15,000 per year only pays 7.65% (SS/Med) + 7.00% (city+state) + 8% (sales) in taxes, and 0% in federal taxes?
Sales taxes usually only apply to certain purchases, not all purchases and thus don't act like an income tax, and most states and localities with an income tax have a progressive one with the usual deductions, same as federal, you're implying a tax on top of the federal of 22.65% for people making 15k a year, and that's just not the case. Assuming the state even had a flat income tax, as opposed to none or a progressive one, they'd still have less than 15k as taxable income and a number of purchases which weren't sales taxed. The implication someone making 15k is paying $3,400 in SS, State/local and sales tax is just not accurate. Its not non-zero [assuming they aren't getting money in the form of earned income credits or welfare] but it's likely to mostly be in the form of gas tax, sales tax on soda/beer/cigs, various luxuries, etc. Food and second hand items normally aren't sales taxed and in some states neither is clothing or some other items.
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Why Joel is CRAZY - Nearly Half of All Americans Don't Pay Federal Income Taxes
- 23/02/2012 04:43:15 AM
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Income taxes are not the only kind of taxes. 86% of Americans pay payroll or income tax.
- 23/02/2012 09:51:50 PM
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A not so hypothetical situation...
- 23/02/2012 05:46:44 AM
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Your paying more money now than then. Lower rate but more money *NM*
- 23/02/2012 07:52:51 AM
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Why the heck do you think the current tax system is skewed to the rich?
- 23/02/2012 03:18:43 PM
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Once again, poor people have no money with which to pay taxes.
- 23/02/2012 06:23:07 AM
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50% of America is not "poor" or too poor to pay federal income taxes.....
- 23/02/2012 01:01:24 PM
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You base that statement on what, exactly? Fervent desire that it be true?
- 25/02/2012 12:43:30 AM
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2009 (the year cited for this claim) was an outlier because of temporary tax cuts and the economy.
- 25/02/2012 01:14:01 AM
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Interesting, but lacking the data I consider critical; FICA etc. should not be counted, IMHO.
- 25/02/2012 02:10:45 AM
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It's a phrasing thing, permits more bullshit
- 25/02/2012 04:41:06 AM
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Maybe I am just playing the same game,but I find stats from "the other side" compelling in some ways
- 25/02/2012 10:36:40 AM
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You're operating under the same fallacy he does - that people should pay income taxes.
- 23/02/2012 12:05:52 PM
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In much the same way
- 23/02/2012 01:40:58 PM
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Joel is crazy, but I highly doubt that this is "why"
- 23/02/2012 01:36:37 PM
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I see your point, but not how it changes much in the conversation where we discussed that
- 25/02/2012 01:49:29 AM
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You mention this statistic all the time.
- 23/02/2012 02:16:47 PM
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Obviously, we are talking about the bottom 50%.....
- 23/02/2012 03:22:43 PM
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I wonder how much of that statistic is students
- 23/02/2012 02:22:58 PM
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The number "paying taxes" should include dependents of those paying
- 23/02/2012 02:39:21 PM
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yah I read the link, but apparently I just didn't understand their explanation.
- 23/02/2012 05:40:54 PM
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Federal taxes
- 23/02/2012 04:18:22 PM
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Your figures are fairly unrealistic
- 23/02/2012 04:54:44 PM
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Not entirely.
- 23/02/2012 06:30:18 PM
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Yeah I don't normally assume NY as a baseline
- 23/02/2012 06:41:37 PM
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- 23/02/2012 06:41:37 PM
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It probably isn't. We even tax delivery fees, gardening services and other things with sales tax.
- 25/02/2012 07:03:46 PM
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We don't tax transport of property either
- 25/02/2012 08:16:53 PM
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- 25/02/2012 08:16:53 PM
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Places usually get around it with free delivery. A tax on a $0 item is still $0. *NM*
- 25/02/2012 09:12:22 PM
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Income taxes are not the only kind of taxes. 86% of Americans pay payroll or income tax.
- 23/02/2012 09:51:50 PM
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And give the riff raff a reason to become involved in politics? Are you daft? *NM*
- 24/02/2012 05:04:51 AM
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25% of america is under 18, that means ~25% of the rest are not working or paid very little
- 25/02/2012 08:17:52 PM
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