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Curious as to where you read these things TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 13/09/2012 08:41:43 PM
GMOs just upped the ante because the long term effects are almost impossible to know now, and because they prevent farmers replanting seed, sterilize the next generation of neighboring related plants, crowd out the other plants through natural selection, and kill harmless or even beneficial neighboring organisms through biologically produced pest/herbicides.


I have an interest in the field and I haven't come across anything close to substantial evidence that they actually happen outside lab conditions (and in a couple of the scenarios you mentioned not even that). I'd be interested if you could point me in the direction of the journal articles where they show it happens, I'm amazed I haven't come across them myself.
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I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about organic food kHz1000 - 11/09/2012 08:01:41 PM 1216 Views
I think it makes sense in some cases but mostly it makes you feel like you are doing something random thoughts - 11/09/2012 08:25:54 PM 681 Views
Re: I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about organic food temeraire - 11/09/2012 08:55:17 PM 717 Views
Re: I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about organic food TheCrownless - 11/09/2012 09:20:49 PM 729 Views
i suggest watching henry rollins' film h is for hunger. and then looking up research on gmo crops' temeraire - 12/09/2012 12:57:48 AM 573 Views
I'm familiar with the literature on this matter actually. TheCrownless - 13/09/2012 07:26:09 PM 624 Views
Okay kHz1000 - 11/09/2012 10:05:39 PM 665 Views
Re: Okay temeraire - 12/09/2012 01:26:20 AM 621 Views
Re: Okay kHz1000 - 12/09/2012 04:25:19 PM 704 Views
Re: I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about food Kuke - 11/09/2012 08:59:54 PM 963 Views
I am intrigued by your ideas. Nate - 12/09/2012 03:20:13 PM 594 Views
I'm a biology graduate so I'm a bit bias but... TheCrownless - 11/09/2012 09:41:00 PM 809 Views
Thank you for you perspective! *NM* kHz1000 - 11/09/2012 10:14:49 PM 317 Views
I think organic food is a luxury that few will want as food prices increase in the coming decades. Tom - 11/09/2012 10:11:33 PM 652 Views
Re: I think organic food is a luxury that few will want as food prices increase in the coming -- kHz1000 - 11/09/2012 10:35:08 PM 705 Views
Re: I think organic food is a luxury that few will want as food prices increase in the coming -- DomA - 12/09/2012 02:38:24 AM 739 Views
Good points kHz1000 - 12/09/2012 09:28:41 AM 742 Views
Re: Good points DomA - 12/09/2012 02:09:49 PM 670 Views
Yes. ironclad - 12/09/2012 10:01:36 AM 640 Views
I like it. Stephen - 11/09/2012 11:29:08 PM 741 Views
What I think Sareitha Sedai - 12/09/2012 03:43:29 PM 598 Views
Re: What I think Stephen - 12/09/2012 04:26:34 PM 682 Views
Did you just INVITE me to ramble? Joel - 11/09/2012 11:30:01 PM 821 Views
Actually (minor pedants point) TheCrownless - 13/09/2012 08:23:48 PM 707 Views
I hold to the view that most food is organic Isaac - 12/09/2012 12:15:27 AM 814 Views
If you are also interested in more views, todays New York Times is discussing it, also. Joel - 12/09/2012 02:45:22 AM 772 Views
What I think (now in the right spot!) Sareitha Sedai - 12/09/2012 04:02:31 PM 763 Views
I'm so glad you responded. nossy - 12/09/2012 04:14:31 PM 739 Views
organic has always been more about the process than the extra nutrition moondog - 12/09/2012 04:02:53 PM 665 Views
Re: organic has always been more about the process than the extra nutrition kHz1000 - 12/09/2012 04:43:02 PM 717 Views
Well... jh - 12/09/2012 08:15:13 PM 776 Views
I think the organic movement is mostly a big scam: an excuse to charge more money for less food. Tim - 12/09/2012 11:40:40 PM 634 Views
Actually, I believe the "no pesticides" part predates the "no GMOs" part. Joel - 13/09/2012 05:26:53 AM 652 Views
You're right... DomA - 13/09/2012 08:43:52 AM 734 Views
Thanks for confirming my general impression as right on the money. Joel - 14/09/2012 03:35:56 PM 699 Views
Re: Thanks for confirming my general impression as right on the money. DomA - 16/09/2012 07:45:25 PM 707 Views
That is a very interesting overview, thanks. Joel - 17/09/2012 11:22:38 PM 678 Views
Re: That is a very interesting overview, thanks. DomA - 20/09/2012 08:44:45 PM 712 Views
Re: That is a very interesting overview, thanks. Joel - 24/09/2012 03:06:35 AM 721 Views
Curious as to where you read these things TheCrownless - 13/09/2012 08:41:43 PM 701 Views
Joel is becoming (or has totally become) a crazy conspiracy nut. Tom - 14/09/2012 02:52:38 PM 663 Views
I am aware of no corroborating scientific research, no Joel - 14/09/2012 03:53:42 PM 718 Views
I have some serious problems with that I'm afraid. TheCrownless - 14/09/2012 05:53:39 PM 605 Views
Fair enough; I have some serious fears with GMOs. Joel - 15/09/2012 03:58:13 AM 747 Views
This is a long one... TheCrownless - 15/09/2012 08:28:36 PM 700 Views
Tends to happen around me for SOME reason.... Joel - 17/09/2012 05:31:44 PM 799 Views
Re: I think the organic movement is mostly a big scam: an excuse to charge more money for less food. kHz1000 - 13/09/2012 11:05:37 AM 641 Views
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