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Your lack of scientific understanding is everything in this instance. Jeordam Send a noteboard - 26/10/2012 10:44:05 PM
A woman's egg cell is no more a person then a skin or liver cell. It contains nothing but her genetic make-up. The same with a man's sperm cell. Its all him. That's not the case with a fertalized ovum. It is neither him nor her, as it is something unique and different in every aspect from the woman.

I understand and agree with your logic in that if *you* don't consider it a person, because *you* have no proof, then *you* don't consider it murder. Essentially getting by the not murdering statute by technicality. I find that to be inconsistent with Christ, as *you're* not understanding something is a sin is no defense from it actually being one.

I also find it inconsistent with the passage that said that God knows us while we are still in the womb. In your post above, you are placing the qualification upon an arbitary date and time. That doesn't jive considering one mili-second before its nothing but cells? But all of a sudden having the human determined designation of fetus (much akin to newborn, infant, todler, child, teenager) makes the person a person.

It is interesting that you are willing to take on faith the Lord and Savior of your life....no proof. Belief equals eternal life. Yet when it comes to the life and well being of a child....no proof for you equals a complete disregard of compassion.

~Jeordam
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Do you really think God would condone abortion? *NM* - 26/10/2012 03:28:25 PM 457 Views
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You're technically right, Joel, but... - 26/10/2012 07:32:10 PM 798 Views
Almost may count in hand grenades, but definitely not in canon. - 26/10/2012 10:28:57 PM 867 Views
Your lack of scientific understanding is everything in this instance. - 26/10/2012 10:44:05 PM 812 Views
That's a dangerous stance to take as a Christian - 27/10/2012 01:11:14 AM 795 Views
I agree it is good reading; that does not make it binding. - 27/10/2012 01:37:20 AM 797 Views
Jesus that Greek sounds weird to my ears. - 27/10/2012 03:43:40 AM 904 Views
It's really just simplified Attic. - 27/10/2012 06:11:48 AM 775 Views
Condemn women to die? What a strange way to look at this. - 26/10/2012 07:17:16 PM 834 Views
women *did* die before abortion was legalized, there should be no dispute of this aspect - 26/10/2012 07:27:28 PM 868 Views
Very good point, but that was not (at least soley) what I meant, no. - 26/10/2012 11:12:32 PM 774 Views
If something should be illegal in its own right, it is nonsense to legalize it because criminals - 26/10/2012 11:40:41 PM 800 Views
If banning it saves no lives but inevitably takes more, the ban is counterproductive. - 27/10/2012 12:48:51 AM 849 Views
That is absolutely absurd. It saves the lives of all... - 27/10/2012 12:59:16 AM 846 Views
you're still missing the point that abortions will still be performed if it were illegal - 27/10/2012 01:02:57 AM 778 Views
I'm not missing the point, you are. - 27/10/2012 01:21:39 AM 905 Views
People who want abortions badly enough to have one will, whether or not law makes it "convenient." - 27/10/2012 02:58:52 AM 759 Views
You're stuck. - 27/10/2012 07:07:36 AM 877 Views
not entirely - 27/10/2012 03:23:07 PM 893 Views
Give me facts, not supposition. - 27/10/2012 04:10:57 PM 810 Views
Perfect example of media sensationalism - 26/10/2012 04:13:41 PM 856 Views
I agree with your larger point and am not trying to be argumentative - 26/10/2012 04:29:23 PM 820 Views
THAT is the whole problem with his comment. - 26/10/2012 05:59:40 PM 755 Views
Or it could mean.... - 26/10/2012 11:50:53 PM 796 Views
Re: Or it could mean.... - 27/10/2012 12:14:31 AM 770 Views
I agree - 26/10/2012 07:27:21 PM 835 Views
It's always a slippery slope, talking about what God did and did not intend. - 27/10/2012 12:06:22 AM 798 Views
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I suppose it is splitting hairs. - 27/10/2012 04:32:43 PM 784 Views
Pregnancy cannot be separated from its cause. - 26/10/2012 05:51:28 PM 802 Views
Re: Pregnancy cannot be separated from its cause. - 27/10/2012 01:17:04 AM 818 Views
Who said anything about denying them funds? - 27/10/2012 01:54:39 AM 850 Views
God intends everything. - 27/10/2012 04:40:58 PM 880 Views
"Intends" is a big word. - 27/10/2012 09:23:13 PM 802 Views
Re: "Intends" is a big word. - 29/10/2012 04:56:49 PM 779 Views
I am familiar with the Problem of Evil. - 29/10/2012 06:41:13 PM 793 Views
Absolutely agree. *NM* - 26/10/2012 11:47:04 PM 405 Views
It is sad that this is getting more press than the Bengazi scandal *NM* - 26/10/2012 05:58:22 PM 415 Views
It is sad partisanship trumps policy for so many. - 26/10/2012 10:52:34 PM 714 Views
The comment that sparked this was moronic even to the vast majority of religious conservatives. *NM* - 26/10/2012 09:42:51 PM 414 Views
Yet its author remains the only Senate nominee for whom Romney is running ads. - 26/10/2012 10:53:37 PM 754 Views
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how does one vote against a bill which passed by unanimous consent? - 27/10/2012 12:11:37 AM 756 Views
As a state senator in 2001 in illinois he was the sole opponent to the aforementioned bill. *NM* - 27/10/2012 12:14:08 AM 419 Views
[citation needed] - 27/10/2012 12:15:41 AM 735 Views
It was an illinois state bill. *NM* - 27/10/2012 12:23:12 AM 425 Views
yes, i finally found *something* regarding a state bill which he did oppose - 27/10/2012 12:34:40 AM 806 Views
It is not hard to find, really. - 27/10/2012 02:40:06 AM 731 Views
Links: - 27/10/2012 12:51:12 AM 799 Views
Double post. *NM* - 27/10/2012 12:18:42 AM 400 Views
amazing - 28/10/2012 05:04:21 AM 904 Views

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