you're right, i should have posted the actual article instead of an editorial. thanks!
moondog Send a noteboard - 14/11/2012 08:14:42 PM
As for my opinions, this is terrible. Twenty years ago the High Court said that the government was required to legislate for cases of abortion where it was medically necessary. This never happened and yet here we are in 2012 and a woman has denied because she was denied necessary, life-saving treatment. All the doctors and medical staff who refused treatment should be arrested and imprisoned for murder.
This was nothing but murder. By carrying out an abortion, the doctors would not have been terminating a viable foetus. Savita Halavanappar was having a miscarriage, and by refusing to treat her and expidite the process they caused not only the foetus but also the lady to perish. This goes against all morality and legality. Fuck these doctors, fuck this hospital and fuck this country that lets a woman die due to antiquated notions of morality.
i do have to wonder at the wisdom that says that a non-viable fetus with no chance of living has more right to life than the mother. i think this example goes to show what happens when laws are written based on religious doctrine, and also what happens when people follow their strict interpretations of the law when it suits their need to absolve themselves of wrongdoing. "i was just following the law" should be no more of a legal defense than "i was just following orders" when the potential to save a life is at stake.
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woman dies after doctors deny her a life-saving abortion
- 14/11/2012 06:58:31 PM
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this is so terribly sad. keeping abortions legal is important. *NM*
- 14/11/2012 07:09:00 PM
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Well, I guess to expedite the process of argument and counter-argument, I'll post an article an
- 14/11/2012 07:28:01 PM
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you're right, i should have posted the actual article instead of an editorial. thanks!
- 14/11/2012 08:14:42 PM
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so terrible... i will never understand how this crap is considered "pro-life." *NM*
- 15/11/2012 01:15:56 AM
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Maybe this is more a testament to the quality of care in that hospital than an arguemnt for abortion *NM*
- 15/11/2012 01:49:00 PM
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Can you elaborate?
- 16/11/2012 04:07:48 PM
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Do you have access to her medical charts?
- 16/11/2012 08:44:45 PM
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The infection was from the fetus inside of her. That is not disputed.
- 16/11/2012 10:14:52 PM
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This wasn't pro-life, but more a case of anti-thinking
- 15/11/2012 06:28:55 PM
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but the pro-life (or anti-abortion) argument was the reason they gave for not allowing an abortion
- 15/11/2012 10:00:14 PM
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Once you know for certain that the mother is dying, it is too late.
- 16/11/2012 04:11:25 PM
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Statistically speaking...
- 15/11/2012 07:03:51 PM
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Psst.
- 15/11/2012 09:43:35 PM
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Re: Statistically speaking...
- 15/11/2012 10:56:35 PM
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Where's the due process?
- 15/11/2012 11:35:39 PM
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First, prove that the fetus is a "ONE".
- 16/11/2012 04:14:34 PM
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That argument is specious
- 16/11/2012 08:36:07 PM
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But you cannot call another living person an "environment." Only for parasites.
- 16/11/2012 10:16:18 PM
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Yes I can, look up the word environment
- 17/11/2012 11:49:55 AM
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Win some, lose some
- 15/11/2012 11:29:32 PM
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Some facts for you - from the article Stephen linked in his reply above, and from general knowledge.
- 16/11/2012 09:38:32 PM
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That is the most rational argument put forth thus far, HOWEVER
- 17/11/2012 07:06:58 PM
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Wow.
- 17/11/2012 07:28:23 PM
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Nah, I don't *try* to insult anyone (most of the time) , though I seem to do so fairly regularly. *NM*
- 18/11/2012 07:41:43 PM
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Re: That is the most rational argument put forth thus far, HOWEVER
- 17/11/2012 08:07:19 PM
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Nice decision to turn to insults. Print out your post and let it join your head, up your ass.
- 18/11/2012 07:50:18 PM
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The difference between Ireland and the UK is about 0.006%
- 17/11/2012 08:31:45 PM
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It illustrates that the "life of the mother" argument is rare to the point of irrelevance. *NM*
- 18/11/2012 07:45:36 PM
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And yet this case makes it irrefutably relevant. *NM*
- 20/11/2012 05:18:23 PM
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No, it really does not. Because the situation is so rare as to not be worth even discussing...
- 21/11/2012 03:24:01 PM
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In your opinion - in mine, and I suspect others here, it is not.
- 22/11/2012 12:03:20 AM
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I am not debating opinion, you can't debate opinion, I am trying to point out facts.
- 22/11/2012 05:29:24 PM
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