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Damn, I agree with Anonymous2000. callandor1000 Send a noteboard - 14/12/2012 04:29:36 AM
Once upon a time, unions were in place to help the worker. Now, they essentially hinder the average worker and destroy our country and economy. You want the real reason jobs aren't in this country? Unions. With so many laws protecting workers now, Unions essentially only exist for greedy, worthless workers. It is LONG past time we shut them down. I don't usually agree with republican sentiment, but this is one of very few things they have correct.

Our middle class is in grave peril because of Unions and Union mindset. It has slowly eaten away at the core of this country, poisoning its culture, thoughts, expectations and values.

Your mom. That's right. The cat is out of the bag. Your mom.

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Congrats to Michigan - The Newest Right to Work State! Anonymous2000 - 12/12/2012 04:59:29 AM 1584 Views
It's great that they were able to do it. Tom - 12/12/2012 02:45:39 PM 888 Views
I just think it's so... odd... that people don't realize things constantly evolve. beetnemesis - 12/12/2012 05:18:11 PM 831 Views
Isn't this a symptom of evolution? Jeordam - 12/12/2012 06:12:36 PM 878 Views
we also don't need unions to keep people on the job who are bad at it..... moondog - 12/12/2012 06:20:22 PM 864 Views
Unions are all about protecting underperforming workers and the union leadership. Anonymous2000 - 12/12/2012 06:37:41 PM 820 Views
Dude, that's insane. beetnemesis - 12/12/2012 06:58:42 PM 871 Views
That's a bit naive. And instead of evolution, I should have said "ever-changing" beetnemesis - 12/12/2012 06:55:41 PM 758 Views
No, big companies aren't all of a sudden altruistic... Jeordam - 12/12/2012 07:33:16 PM 811 Views
your three examples are of employers demanding workers do more for less moondog - 12/12/2012 07:41:12 PM 906 Views
The good and the bad of unions: Narg - 12/12/2012 10:33:46 PM 992 Views
Double post. Narg - 12/12/2012 10:33:50 PM 1084 Views
Ok...employeers demanding people to do more for less. Jeordam - 13/12/2012 10:56:32 PM 815 Views
the point was that the union did not strike, the workers were prevented from working by management moondog - 13/12/2012 11:25:07 PM 865 Views
Yes, and if there was not a union... beetnemesis - 13/12/2012 04:56:57 AM 829 Views
What are the downsides of Unions? *NM* Narg - 12/12/2012 10:30:17 PM 485 Views
What are the upsides for anyone BUT unions? Cannoli - 13/12/2012 11:58:23 PM 888 Views
the answer to the political influence is hard campaign contribution limits from individuals only moondog - 14/12/2012 12:27:57 AM 793 Views
Cannoli - 19/12/2012 01:33:13 AM 1015 Views
I was hoping to hear what a union supporter recognizes as flaws of unions. Narg - 14/12/2012 08:55:46 PM 913 Views
I'll tell you what my perceptions are.... Jeordam - 14/12/2012 09:30:33 PM 958 Views
one point i need to address here: moondog - 14/12/2012 10:09:24 PM 753 Views
Re: I was hoping to hear what a union supporter recognizes as flaws of unions. moondog - 14/12/2012 10:07:39 PM 738 Views
Sorry, didn't realize this was addressed to me. Sure, ok: beetnemesis - 15/12/2012 05:14:57 AM 981 Views
it's great? moondog - 12/12/2012 05:29:00 PM 832 Views
Pissed off people.... Jeordam - 12/12/2012 06:16:49 PM 766 Views
again, what industry will those people looking for work go to in michigan? moondog - 12/12/2012 06:23:47 PM 885 Views
This used to be the case, but no longer. ranagrande - 12/12/2012 06:34:01 PM 738 Views
but that's my point exactly moondog - 12/12/2012 06:40:20 PM 798 Views
Which industry are you refering to? *NM* Isaac - 12/12/2012 06:23:55 PM 411 Views
As a native Michigander, I can tell you it's great. ranagrande - 12/12/2012 06:26:53 PM 770 Views
+1 - This is going to help bring jobs to MI and benefit the auto industry. Anonymous2000 - 12/12/2012 06:33:43 PM 805 Views
unions still aren't the problem in michigan, it's reliance on a single industry as the main employer moondog - 12/12/2012 06:37:44 PM 752 Views
Michigan is one of the fastest growing areas for the tech industry. Michigan is starting to expand. everynametaken - 19/12/2012 03:28:18 AM 946 Views
So let me get this straight. Dannymac - 13/12/2012 03:54:14 PM 839 Views
Yes, it's a good thing, a very, very good thing! Anonymous2000 - 13/12/2012 05:45:43 PM 802 Views
no "right to work" in MO, MT, CO, NM, KY, WV, OH, MA, NY, DE, MN, WI, PA, OR, WA, HI, AK, MD moondog - 13/12/2012 06:56:17 PM 830 Views
Just to play devil's advocate... Tom - 13/12/2012 09:12:02 PM 797 Views
That would be an interesting study... Jeordam - 13/12/2012 09:51:21 PM 791 Views
Re: Just to play devil's advocate... moondog - 13/12/2012 09:57:07 PM 748 Views
I, for one, stipulate that you are correct. Jeordam - 13/12/2012 10:06:34 PM 829 Views
Re: I, for one, stipulate that you are correct. moondog - 13/12/2012 10:18:27 PM 822 Views
How is that wrong? Jeordam - 13/12/2012 10:52:24 PM 758 Views
it's wrong because it ultimately drives down *all* workers' pay, not just the unions moondog - 13/12/2012 11:26:00 PM 792 Views
Your argument is completely fallacious. Tom - 14/12/2012 04:17:58 AM 789 Views
A brilliant argument... Dannymac - 14/12/2012 07:23:53 AM 859 Views
You are assuming that business owners do not value "on the job" experience Orange - 14/12/2012 09:03:35 AM 931 Views
Your hypothetical doesn't stand up in the real world, however. Tom - 14/12/2012 02:46:23 PM 840 Views
the only reason unions are obsolete is because republicans don't want them supporting dems moondog - 14/12/2012 06:43:56 PM 766 Views
Unions being obsolete has almost nothing to do with internal American politics Tom - 14/12/2012 07:10:38 PM 706 Views
i would disagree, at least with respect to the spate of "right to work" laws being pushed through moondog - 14/12/2012 07:32:26 PM 784 Views
Unions aren't going to help rein in CEO pay or corporate profits. Tom - 14/12/2012 10:48:51 PM 764 Views
i'll take you one further.... moondog - 14/12/2012 11:24:26 PM 735 Views
I have suggested that before Tom - 15/12/2012 02:31:07 PM 764 Views
so you did. sorry about that! moondog - 15/12/2012 03:59:16 PM 737 Views
So to work with your thoughts (regarding the Romans) Jeordam - 14/12/2012 06:07:06 PM 768 Views
funny thing about that..... moondog - 14/12/2012 07:25:50 PM 716 Views
And so what if they are all shit jobs with substandard pay! Dannymac - 14/12/2012 07:08:41 AM 797 Views
What do you want me to say? Jeordam - 14/12/2012 05:58:45 PM 880 Views
And so the destruction of the Middle Class continues. *NM* Dannymac - 13/12/2012 03:43:36 PM 396 Views
The unions already destroyed the middle class..... Anonymous2000 - 13/12/2012 05:46:56 PM 802 Views
Do you really not understand why unions existed in the first place? Dannymac - 14/12/2012 06:55:27 AM 729 Views
Why they first existed is not in issue. It is if they STILL serve a useful or detrimental purpose. HyogaRott - 14/12/2012 03:00:48 PM 794 Views
Yeah, moron! What is wrong with you, that you do not blindly accept his underlying premise? Cannoli - 19/12/2012 01:35:37 AM 1121 Views
Damn, I agree with Anonymous2000. callandor1000 - 14/12/2012 04:29:36 AM 828 Views
This must be a trying time for you. Dannymac - 14/12/2012 07:06:56 AM 781 Views
Callandor sees the light, perhaps it's time for you as well! *NM* Anonymous2000 - 14/12/2012 02:08:47 PM 361 Views
HOW they are doing it..is bullshit Amyrlin - 13/12/2012 06:33:09 PM 949 Views
How? Residents of MI elected a Republican legislature and Governor..... Anonymous2000 - 13/12/2012 09:25:43 PM 783 Views
You have the right to work, not the right to vote in an election as you see fit and keep your job. *NM* heartbreak - 15/12/2012 03:23:13 AM 448 Views
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