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Oh I wasn't commenting on the standard of people here TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 21/12/2012 11:29:36 PM

The rest of your post is clearly an idealogical view on the right to use firearms for self defence. The people who want semi-automatic guns banned but allow people to keep conventional hunting rifles obviously don't agree with you (on either that you should be allowed or if you are, that those types of weapon are necessary for it). I don't especially want to get into that here as it's not the place, you aren't going to convince me that I need a gun to protect myself (or that if the government or police wanted to get me having a firearm would help) and I doubt I could convince you otherwise.


I've difficulty imaging a better place to chat about this, the audience is pretty smart compared to most.


just that this thread in particular has a different purpose than the 'is owning a gun for self defence right or necessary' discussion.
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Explain that remark, it is not obvious to me *NM* - 21/12/2012 11:00:10 PM 648 Views
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Re: I thought I was being perfectly clear. - 21/12/2012 11:25:04 PM 1149 Views
Oh I wasn't commenting on the standard of people here - 21/12/2012 11:29:36 PM 1114 Views
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How many of the people I was complaining about would know that? - 22/12/2012 12:48:59 AM 1090 Views
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It irritates me too. *NM* - 01/01/2013 01:55:05 PM 611 Views

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