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I just worked that out. Werthead Send a noteboard - 30/09/2009 12:07:43 AM
The affair with Kinski happened before this, not after - by the time this affair was done and he was in France, Kinski was of legal age even by American standards.


I was looking into this further and information suggested the relationship began on the set of the film 'Tess', which was a year after the original case. However, Kinski was 17 by that point (even taking into account the latest of her several birth-dates; she lied about her original age in order to do movies involving nudity earlier than would have otherwise been legal). This led to the assumption that the affair happened earlier, but if so I would have thought that it should have come up during the time of the original trial.

Is there a good source for info on the Kinski/Polanski relationship? Googling isn't really helping at the moment as it just comes back to this week's news stories.

And do you have anything to support your assertion that the victim "did want the matter pursued quite vigorously"? Her op-ed article rather seems to suggest otherwise.


The civil case began in 1990 and Polanski fought it for seven years before giving in and reaching an out-of-court settlement. The fact that she pursued him off her own back across borders for seven years appears would appear to be 'quite vigorous' in my book. Interestingly, it has been suggested that the victim going public in 1997 with her forgiveness for Polanski may have been part of the terms of the settlement.
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/History/Politics/I'm not sure: A commentary on the Roman Polanski arrest - 29/09/2009 10:15:12 AM 1221 Views
And a NYT article on the same topic - 29/09/2009 10:51:58 AM 295 Views
There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 11:53:41 AM 422 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 11:57:18 AM 518 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:09:27 PM 295 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:15:54 PM 377 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:41:56 PM 374 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:47:05 PM 401 Views
There is a word which describes the famous film director - 29/09/2009 01:05:56 PM 324 Views
There is a massive difference between Genet and Polanski - 29/09/2009 01:32:41 PM 528 Views
Yeah, there is - 29/09/2009 03:41:11 PM 364 Views
if the guy was someone else, do you think anyone would care? - 29/09/2009 02:08:15 PM 405 Views
For thousands of years 13yos have been having sex with much older males. - 29/09/2009 02:46:27 PM 337 Views
Lots of things have been going on for thousands of years. - 29/09/2009 03:35:06 PM 296 Views
Well on the flip side - 29/09/2009 03:49:35 PM 385 Views
Absolutely true enough. - 29/09/2009 04:11:28 PM 457 Views
Agreed - 29/09/2009 04:37:38 PM 395 Views
with you on this. *NM* - 30/09/2009 05:05:21 PM 261 Views
if you were talking "consensual", i'd probably at least grudgingly agree - 29/09/2009 04:07:08 PM 389 Views
Problem is that we don't know - 29/09/2009 04:46:15 PM 389 Views
he said/she said/lawyer said - 29/09/2009 05:01:41 PM 442 Views
Yep - 29/09/2009 05:28:16 PM 411 Views
I was not under the impression he did not know she was a minor - 29/09/2009 05:50:38 PM 416 Views
Well, Angelica Huston (who was there that night) didn't think she looked 'like a minor' - 29/09/2009 06:17:15 PM 434 Views
Whoa - what's with the double post? *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:17:33 PM 267 Views
Or the triple post! *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:18:13 PM 246 Views
It was a photo shoot for a film why WOULD she look like a minor?? - 29/09/2009 06:27:00 PM 439 Views
Sorry - no it wasn't for a film at all - 29/09/2009 06:39:14 PM 350 Views
I believe at some point it wasn mentioned to be connected to a film - 29/09/2009 06:42:25 PM 222 Views
I've never seen anything to support that - 29/09/2009 07:01:56 PM 239 Views
even if the paperwork didn't show it - 29/09/2009 07:06:02 PM 434 Views
Possibly - 29/09/2009 07:35:33 PM 420 Views
and i'm saying that if it was under contest - 29/09/2009 07:38:24 PM 381 Views
Do you understand how the legal system works in Common Law? - 29/09/2009 07:53:34 PM 398 Views
*shake head* wahtever - 29/09/2009 08:07:25 PM 359 Views
here is a photo of her taken that same year. - 29/09/2009 08:10:21 PM 439 Views
Seen that one as part of my research on this - 29/09/2009 08:22:33 PM 461 Views
I think it very telling that you want to take this line of when Polanski doesn't - 29/09/2009 08:36:47 PM 312 Views
Really? Who says? - 29/09/2009 08:42:38 PM 365 Views
I can't prove it wasn't aliens using mind control rays that forced him to do it - 29/09/2009 08:57:10 PM 281 Views
There is one thing I would like to say. - 29/09/2009 09:03:06 PM 286 Views
Absolutely unacceptable behavior for an administrator, Avendesora. - 30/09/2009 10:44:32 PM 364 Views
Looks like an accidental edit instead of a reply to me. *NM* - 01/10/2009 01:42:33 PM 232 Views
Agreed. I've almost done that a few times on my board. *NM* - 01/10/2009 04:08:44 PM 245 Views
actually, it was an honest mistake. I accidentally clicked on "edit" instead of "reply". - 01/10/2009 06:25:48 PM 234 Views
No worries Ave - 01/10/2009 06:41:51 PM 221 Views
Ah. Sorry. - 02/10/2009 02:10:34 AM 370 Views
14-16 - 02/10/2009 05:28:02 AM 231 Views
he could have had a trial and chose not to - 29/09/2009 05:41:11 PM 395 Views
*agree* *NM* - 29/09/2009 05:50:56 PM 133 Views
Yes, he could have - 29/09/2009 05:56:05 PM 361 Views
so he fled the country to spare her the humilation of a trial? - 29/09/2009 08:11:59 PM 384 Views
Nope - 29/09/2009 08:28:58 PM 248 Views
no it isn't but you seem to have trouble understanding he drugged and rapped a child - 30/09/2009 09:24:53 PM 411 Views
You seem to have trouble understanding that an accusation isn't proof - 30/09/2009 11:04:35 PM 407 Views
The coward fled the country before anything could be proven - 01/10/2009 06:25:27 AM 396 Views
You really don't get it do you? - 01/10/2009 04:20:36 PM 189 Views
I don't get it?????? - 01/10/2009 05:22:51 PM 276 Views
Yeah - you don't and it's a good thing you're not part of the legal system - 01/10/2009 05:32:57 PM 367 Views
I call Bullshit here. Sorry Greg. - 29/09/2009 05:28:21 PM 405 Views
You're perfectly entitled to your opinions. - 29/09/2009 08:11:17 PM 350 Views
Yes, and people have been murdering each other. - 29/09/2009 05:35:26 PM 421 Views
We have no evidence of trauma. - 29/09/2009 08:12:44 PM 409 Views
For thousands of years gays have been persecuted and treated as abhorrent perverts. - 02/10/2009 02:57:47 AM 417 Views
And a big fuck you to you too. - 05/10/2009 03:08:09 PM 241 Views
He's just a troll, as he's shown in many threads. *NM* - 05/10/2009 03:19:14 PM 215 Views
Yes, it's not like I have a valid point or anything. *NM* - 05/10/2009 07:16:13 PM 232 Views
Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. - 05/10/2009 07:46:18 PM 236 Views
Well, I guess you'll have to fulfill your role here and pass sentence... - 06/10/2009 09:19:34 PM 397 Views
You're one to talk. *NM* - 06/10/2009 09:38:30 PM 217 Views
I've been following this with some interest - 29/09/2009 03:28:36 PM 250 Views
That was my impression as well. - 29/09/2009 03:38:48 PM 234 Views
Re: That was my impression as well. - 29/09/2009 03:43:36 PM 232 Views
Re: That was my impression as well. - 29/09/2009 03:45:17 PM 220 Views
I agree with many of your points, but on some the facts seem to say something else. - 29/09/2009 04:13:09 PM 396 Views
*agree* *NM* - 29/09/2009 04:20:32 PM 211 Views
Problem of course is that those are not 'facts' - 29/09/2009 04:58:28 PM 419 Views
first you demand fact before judgement then you make a judgement on your opinion? - 29/09/2009 05:04:59 PM 360 Views
Depends on the circumstances - 29/09/2009 05:35:13 PM 378 Views
because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either - 29/09/2009 04:17:06 PM 396 Views
Re: because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either - 29/09/2009 05:17:57 PM 318 Views
*snort* - 29/09/2009 05:30:25 PM 336 Views
I would have to agree with you there, actually - 29/09/2009 05:47:13 PM 465 Views
Re: I would have to agree with your first point, but not the second - 29/09/2009 05:47:40 PM 441 Views
There is no way in hell he did not know she was underage. - 29/09/2009 05:55:37 PM 393 Views
Not necessarily true at all - 29/09/2009 06:32:18 PM 338 Views
Somehow, i heavily doubt the fact she was NOT 18 would never have come to light - 29/09/2009 06:40:20 PM 404 Views
You may be right, I don't know. - 29/09/2009 06:58:45 PM 413 Views
so you agree he is guilty to the allegation he pleaded guilty to of sex with a minor? - 29/09/2009 07:09:07 PM 317 Views
There was never any doubt of that - 29/09/2009 07:46:43 PM 306 Views
See below, - 29/09/2009 07:54:09 PM 335 Views
Yeah, I agree about the vigilante part and the extreme reactions... - 29/09/2009 07:58:18 PM 431 Views
I think I'm reading that article more critically than you are. - 29/09/2009 08:37:23 PM 370 Views
Or you've already made up your mind, while I'm basing mine on what I read. - 29/09/2009 08:46:56 PM 434 Views
I haven't entirely made up my mind - 29/09/2009 08:55:30 PM 324 Views
don't you think he'd say something about it NOW? - 29/09/2009 08:48:59 PM 200 Views
I don't know - 29/09/2009 08:57:27 PM 227 Views
An article that has a lot of additional detail... - 29/09/2009 07:18:29 PM 411 Views
I wish i could put a nice big star next to this. - 29/09/2009 07:29:38 PM 326 Views
Umm - why? - 29/09/2009 08:04:29 PM 379 Views
Yes, well, online newspaper archives don't tend to date back very far... - 29/09/2009 08:14:52 PM 406 Views
Oh, and if you want to read the op-ed she wrote... - 29/09/2009 08:20:06 PM 341 Views
Now I'd be interested to see the actual court records - 29/09/2009 08:24:13 PM 324 Views
Me too - 29/09/2009 08:33:36 PM 202 Views
Yeah, nothing new there really - 29/09/2009 08:26:24 PM 415 Views
There's always room for exceptions, however... - 29/09/2009 04:53:34 PM 220 Views
Camilla - he drugged and raped a 13-year old.....what else do you need to know? *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:19:19 PM 240 Views
I don't know that. Neither do you. Which is part of it. *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:20:22 PM 237 Views
Yes we do..... - 29/09/2009 06:30:46 PM 376 Views
No, we don't. - 29/09/2009 06:48:35 PM 328 Views
if these "Facts" were false - 29/09/2009 07:02:50 PM 356 Views
That's extremely naive - 29/09/2009 08:07:15 PM 250 Views
i fail to see how this is naive - 29/09/2009 08:35:59 PM 406 Views
The naive part - 29/09/2009 08:49:18 PM 406 Views
I'm not assuming anyone (not just her personal testimony) was telling the truth - 29/09/2009 08:56:52 PM 426 Views
I think that I'm just more cynical than you are - 29/09/2009 09:12:12 PM 369 Views
So because i'm not cynical about the court system and have a different train of logic - 29/09/2009 09:25:53 PM 390 Views
Not necessarily wrong - 29/09/2009 09:43:33 PM 366 Views
Uhm, his bargain wasn't 40-odd days in evaulation - 29/09/2009 09:51:22 PM 196 Views
Not what I read, but this whole thing is so messy... - 29/09/2009 10:25:59 PM 300 Views
I don't remember which article it was from - 29/09/2009 10:32:32 PM 177 Views
One thing that was clear - 29/09/2009 11:08:43 PM 402 Views
Ah I didn't catch that - 29/09/2009 11:15:06 PM 349 Views
Could you source that? - 29/09/2009 11:18:46 PM 382 Views
it's one of the articles that's been linked - 29/09/2009 11:59:02 PM 340 Views
The Mail article, yeah. *NM* - 30/09/2009 12:01:48 AM 100 Views
Uhm, his bargain wasn't 40-odd days in evaulation - 29/09/2009 09:51:24 PM 306 Views
Yes, we do.....drugs & rape of a 13-year old - 29/09/2009 07:10:02 PM 342 Views
you do know that just because you repeat something it doesn't instantly become true? *NM* - 29/09/2009 07:11:03 PM 93 Views
and how many times have y'all said it was false? *NM* - 29/09/2009 07:13:27 PM 238 Views
Hello pot, this is kettle, you're black too..... - 29/09/2009 08:16:16 PM 228 Views
Wow - I guess every allegation ever made by a prosecutor is true - 29/09/2009 08:09:43 PM 247 Views
I guess you believe every criminal who says "I didn't do it"..... - 29/09/2009 08:18:29 PM 327 Views
Nope - 29/09/2009 09:14:02 PM 246 Views
He admitted it. - 29/09/2009 10:45:43 PM 378 Views
You don't get it do you? - 29/09/2009 11:15:27 PM 350 Views
Nothing in the case which he admitted guilt to is in dispute. - 29/09/2009 11:45:05 PM 338 Views
Hardly - 30/09/2009 11:18:42 PM 328 Views
Seriously, are you related to Roman the Rapist? - 30/09/2009 01:11:44 AM 349 Views
I want to go on record as saying: I really dislike agreeing with you - 30/09/2009 05:03:24 AM 429 Views
Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny - 01/10/2009 12:23:53 AM 335 Views
Re: Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny - 01/10/2009 05:55:46 AM 376 Views
Honestly Amy, you know nothing whatsoever about my life or why I do things - 01/10/2009 04:03:38 PM 359 Views
I only have one thing left to say to you. - 01/10/2009 04:08:42 PM 194 Views
You are certainly entitled to your opinion - 01/10/2009 04:23:32 PM 214 Views
I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. *NM* - 01/10/2009 04:07:59 PM 216 Views
I agree, and already said the same once. It appears that was deleted. *NM* - 01/10/2009 05:15:07 PM 253 Views
Sorry Nossy.. - 01/10/2009 06:24:26 PM 345 Views
It was meant to be advice - 01/10/2009 06:39:31 PM 198 Views
That entire conversation when I deleted the original post. - 01/10/2009 06:30:00 PM 310 Views
No no.. - 01/10/2009 06:43:19 PM 371 Views
Re: I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. - 01/10/2009 06:21:37 PM 204 Views
Heh! - 01/10/2009 06:28:07 PM 224 Views
I second that. *NM* - 01/10/2009 08:21:13 PM 104 Views
No, I happen to dislike vigilante idiots - 30/09/2009 11:21:53 PM 207 Views
Re: No, we don't. - 29/09/2009 10:09:32 PM 305 Views
Re: No, we don't. - 29/09/2009 11:21:08 PM 451 Views
I think for the 1st time ever i'm actually stunned by the comments on this board. - 29/09/2009 07:14:18 PM 297 Views
Oh but he didn't KNOW - 29/09/2009 07:17:55 PM 263 Views
Ignorance doesn't have to be proven in court - 29/09/2009 08:11:31 PM 215 Views
no you have back asswards - 29/09/2009 08:14:36 PM 250 Views
You're talking ethics and then switch to law - 29/09/2009 09:17:02 PM 217 Views
yes the law can be stupid but not so stupid that you can use the - 29/09/2009 10:32:49 PM 258 Views
Oh it's EASILY that stupid and even stupider - 29/09/2009 10:58:33 PM 377 Views
If the girl has to call and ask her mommy if she can stay late you should ask her age - 30/09/2009 04:04:33 PM 238 Views
He knew her age. The photo-shoot was specifically looking at young girls. - 30/09/2009 04:42:01 PM 352 Views
Of course he knew he age - 30/09/2009 05:01:19 PM 347 Views
Obviously - because you say so right? - 30/09/2009 11:25:18 PM 204 Views
You really have to be a moron to believ he didn't - 01/10/2009 06:27:04 AM 218 Views
That stupidity isn't even worthy of a reply. *NM* - 01/10/2009 04:21:35 PM 218 Views
Wow, way to make up 'facts' - 30/09/2009 11:23:13 PM 425 Views
Do you actually READ any of the articles??? - 01/10/2009 12:06:54 AM 209 Views
I did and I just went and re-read that one to be sure - 01/10/2009 12:44:46 AM 382 Views
~nods~ *NM* - 29/09/2009 07:32:29 PM 214 Views
It's not the first time, but I agree. - 29/09/2009 07:44:06 PM 323 Views
Way to go for a straw man - 29/09/2009 07:45:44 PM 383 Views
I agree that he is most definitely not a pedophile - 29/09/2009 07:50:23 PM 443 Views
As to your question, I have no idea - 29/09/2009 07:59:43 PM 440 Views
That is not what staute of limitations is - 29/09/2009 07:52:32 PM 211 Views
Yes - 29/09/2009 08:00:49 PM 247 Views
Re: Yes - 29/09/2009 08:13:24 PM 375 Views
I prefer the Tin Man myself - 29/09/2009 07:57:07 PM 418 Views
Re: Way to go for a straw man - 30/09/2009 05:05:47 PM 331 Views
No one has excused him. But there is no point any longer in going after him. - 29/09/2009 08:15:42 PM 458 Views
i can certainly agree that it's a waste of time and resources - 29/09/2009 08:20:19 PM 212 Views
there are advantages and disadvantages to being famous - 29/09/2009 08:49:21 PM 218 Views
Agreed - I can't believe people are defending this d-bag.....amazing! *NM* - 29/09/2009 08:25:05 PM 216 Views
It is rather mind-boggling *NM* - 29/09/2009 08:29:11 PM 216 Views
well - 29/09/2009 08:34:56 PM 359 Views
I'm all for the gray and considerin both sides. - 29/09/2009 08:45:50 PM 267 Views
Ben Franklin once said - 29/09/2009 09:30:16 PM 408 Views
*snort* - 29/09/2009 10:02:13 PM 380 Views
I'd say you need to spend more time around lawyers - 29/09/2009 10:40:05 PM 321 Views
isn't he still churning out movies like crazy? - 29/09/2009 10:42:48 PM 223 Views
I've no idea - 29/09/2009 11:22:20 PM 352 Views
Exactly Nossy - 29/09/2009 09:20:14 PM 443 Views
Well it's certainly apparent you're sticking to it *NM* - 29/09/2009 09:27:48 PM 217 Views
That's always been how I am though. - 29/09/2009 09:32:30 PM 372 Views
I've decided I really don't care about this either way at all. - 29/09/2009 08:38:14 PM 304 Views
It has an effect on good cinema *NM* - 29/09/2009 08:52:58 PM 141 Views
there's been people saying he shouldn't get his Oscar for it - 29/09/2009 08:59:04 PM 203 Views
Doubtful. - 30/09/2009 02:04:52 AM 335 Views
How recent is recently? - 30/09/2009 02:22:39 AM 253 Views
There's a lot of misinformation flying around here. - 29/09/2009 11:22:29 PM 388 Views
That would be more convincing if you didn't have incorrect information yourself. - 29/09/2009 11:58:40 PM 216 Views
I just worked that out. - 30/09/2009 12:07:43 AM 382 Views
Re: I just worked that out. - 30/09/2009 12:28:13 AM 350 Views
Re: I just worked that out. - 30/09/2009 12:42:17 AM 333 Views
Small correction - 01/10/2009 12:15:45 AM 328 Views
Think about that one a bit - 30/09/2009 11:34:56 PM 397 Views
Add to that also - 30/09/2009 11:30:14 PM 420 Views
Excellent summary on Roman the Rapist.....good job! *NM* - 30/09/2009 01:13:35 AM 234 Views
Most impressive - 30/09/2009 01:21:42 AM 190 Views
Excellent - and done better than most of the rest of us. *NM* - 30/09/2009 03:34:11 PM 237 Views
In my opinion... - 30/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 333 Views
Can I just say... - 30/09/2009 05:54:47 PM 349 Views
The state is also a vicitm - 30/09/2009 06:17:22 PM 348 Views
Hardly, in this case - 30/09/2009 11:57:48 PM 232 Views
you know your arguments would have more merit if you had a clue what your were talking about - 01/10/2009 06:24:35 AM 207 Views
You should know what you are talking about before you post - 01/10/2009 04:18:50 PM 409 Views
OK go learn something and then come back - 01/10/2009 05:15:45 PM 382 Views
I note that you ignore the fact that I just proved you wrong... - 01/10/2009 05:27:01 PM 316 Views
no you just mistated some crap that I ignored *sigh* - 01/10/2009 06:30:03 PM 215 Views
The girl and mother requested to cut a deal, so the 13-year old wouldn't have to testify..... - 01/10/2009 04:28:49 PM 190 Views
Actually, the prosecution cut the deal - 01/10/2009 05:29:29 PM 321 Views
And the most important reason for justice... - 30/09/2009 07:43:33 PM 451 Views
Just to be clear - 30/09/2009 11:47:42 PM 421 Views
This may help some of the argument, but sadly not much - 01/10/2009 02:06:22 AM 364 Views
It's not just that he admitted to it in the plea bargain. - 01/10/2009 03:10:37 AM 413 Views
*agree* *NM* - 01/10/2009 02:36:05 PM 110 Views
Yes, looking at him very strangely.....he's jumping the shark big-time on this one! - 01/10/2009 04:31:43 PM 226 Views
Apparently you don't get the idea of honest debate - 01/10/2009 06:40:45 PM 369 Views
Good news - French government drops support for director Roman Polanski - 01/10/2009 04:46:42 PM 369 Views
Hypocrites. *NM* - 01/10/2009 05:41:34 PM 253 Views
Yeah pretty much - 01/10/2009 06:28:01 PM 247 Views
Well, unless I find some new facts to post - I think I'm done with this thread - 01/10/2009 06:59:36 PM 488 Views
It was quite a valiant effort - 01/10/2009 08:30:23 PM 246 Views
I agree the attacks on you personally were not warranted and were out of line. - 03/10/2009 03:02:03 AM 406 Views
Please. - 05/10/2009 03:35:50 PM 407 Views
My "bottom line" on this subject: - 01/10/2009 07:21:19 PM 402 Views

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