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Actually, the prosecution cut the deal SilverWarder Send a noteboard - 01/10/2009 05:29:29 PM
.....and relive her rape (and live with the stigma).


They may have requested it, or just accepted it. They have no ability to 'cut' any kind of deal at all. The girl was a witness her mother is - well among other things an idiot who sent off a 13 year old for a fashion photo shoot unescorted.
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/History/Politics/I'm not sure: A commentary on the Roman Polanski arrest - 29/09/2009 10:15:12 AM 1425 Views
And a NYT article on the same topic - 29/09/2009 10:51:58 AM 476 Views
There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 11:53:41 AM 621 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 11:57:18 AM 721 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:09:27 PM 487 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:15:54 PM 582 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:41:56 PM 590 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:47:05 PM 607 Views
There is a word which describes the famous film director - 29/09/2009 01:05:56 PM 523 Views
There is a massive difference between Genet and Polanski - 29/09/2009 01:32:41 PM 721 Views
Yeah, there is - 29/09/2009 03:41:11 PM 553 Views
if the guy was someone else, do you think anyone would care? - 29/09/2009 02:08:15 PM 604 Views
For thousands of years 13yos have been having sex with much older males. - 29/09/2009 02:46:27 PM 547 Views
Lots of things have been going on for thousands of years. - 29/09/2009 03:35:06 PM 490 Views
Well on the flip side - 29/09/2009 03:49:35 PM 597 Views
Absolutely true enough. - 29/09/2009 04:11:28 PM 648 Views
Agreed - 29/09/2009 04:37:38 PM 598 Views
with you on this. *NM* - 30/09/2009 05:05:21 PM 360 Views
if you were talking "consensual", i'd probably at least grudgingly agree - 29/09/2009 04:07:08 PM 590 Views
Problem is that we don't know - 29/09/2009 04:46:15 PM 578 Views
he said/she said/lawyer said - 29/09/2009 05:01:41 PM 636 Views
Yep - 29/09/2009 05:28:16 PM 615 Views
I was not under the impression he did not know she was a minor - 29/09/2009 05:50:38 PM 606 Views
Well, Angelica Huston (who was there that night) didn't think she looked 'like a minor' - 29/09/2009 06:17:15 PM 641 Views
Whoa - what's with the double post? *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:17:33 PM 364 Views
Or the triple post! *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:18:13 PM 359 Views
It was a photo shoot for a film why WOULD she look like a minor?? - 29/09/2009 06:27:00 PM 642 Views
Sorry - no it wasn't for a film at all - 29/09/2009 06:39:14 PM 533 Views
I believe at some point it wasn mentioned to be connected to a film - 29/09/2009 06:42:25 PM 419 Views
I've never seen anything to support that - 29/09/2009 07:01:56 PM 444 Views
even if the paperwork didn't show it - 29/09/2009 07:06:02 PM 623 Views
Possibly - 29/09/2009 07:35:33 PM 618 Views
and i'm saying that if it was under contest - 29/09/2009 07:38:24 PM 581 Views
Do you understand how the legal system works in Common Law? - 29/09/2009 07:53:34 PM 587 Views
*shake head* wahtever - 29/09/2009 08:07:25 PM 555 Views
here is a photo of her taken that same year. - 29/09/2009 08:10:21 PM 657 Views
Seen that one as part of my research on this - 29/09/2009 08:22:33 PM 668 Views
I think it very telling that you want to take this line of when Polanski doesn't - 29/09/2009 08:36:47 PM 511 Views
Really? Who says? - 29/09/2009 08:42:38 PM 568 Views
I can't prove it wasn't aliens using mind control rays that forced him to do it - 29/09/2009 08:57:10 PM 477 Views
There is one thing I would like to say. - 29/09/2009 09:03:06 PM 485 Views
Absolutely unacceptable behavior for an administrator, Avendesora. - 30/09/2009 10:44:32 PM 566 Views
Looks like an accidental edit instead of a reply to me. *NM* - 01/10/2009 01:42:33 PM 324 Views
Agreed. I've almost done that a few times on my board. *NM* - 01/10/2009 04:08:44 PM 345 Views
actually, it was an honest mistake. I accidentally clicked on "edit" instead of "reply". - 01/10/2009 06:25:48 PM 438 Views
No worries Ave - 01/10/2009 06:41:51 PM 423 Views
Ah. Sorry. - 02/10/2009 02:10:34 AM 566 Views
14-16 - 02/10/2009 05:28:02 AM 430 Views
he could have had a trial and chose not to - 29/09/2009 05:41:11 PM 600 Views
*agree* *NM* - 29/09/2009 05:50:56 PM 213 Views
Yes, he could have - 29/09/2009 05:56:05 PM 549 Views
so he fled the country to spare her the humilation of a trial? - 29/09/2009 08:11:59 PM 582 Views
Nope - 29/09/2009 08:28:58 PM 448 Views
no it isn't but you seem to have trouble understanding he drugged and rapped a child - 30/09/2009 09:24:53 PM 633 Views
You seem to have trouble understanding that an accusation isn't proof - 30/09/2009 11:04:35 PM 603 Views
The coward fled the country before anything could be proven - 01/10/2009 06:25:27 AM 594 Views
You really don't get it do you? - 01/10/2009 04:20:36 PM 399 Views
I don't get it?????? - 01/10/2009 05:22:51 PM 479 Views
Yeah - you don't and it's a good thing you're not part of the legal system - 01/10/2009 05:32:57 PM 561 Views
I call Bullshit here. Sorry Greg. - 29/09/2009 05:28:21 PM 587 Views
You're perfectly entitled to your opinions. - 29/09/2009 08:11:17 PM 568 Views
Yes, and people have been murdering each other. - 29/09/2009 05:35:26 PM 618 Views
We have no evidence of trauma. - 29/09/2009 08:12:44 PM 612 Views
For thousands of years gays have been persecuted and treated as abhorrent perverts. - 02/10/2009 02:57:47 AM 603 Views
And a big fuck you to you too. - 05/10/2009 03:08:09 PM 459 Views
He's just a troll, as he's shown in many threads. *NM* - 05/10/2009 03:19:14 PM 311 Views
Yes, it's not like I have a valid point or anything. *NM* - 05/10/2009 07:16:13 PM 324 Views
Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. - 05/10/2009 07:46:18 PM 437 Views
Well, I guess you'll have to fulfill your role here and pass sentence... - 06/10/2009 09:19:34 PM 606 Views
You're one to talk. *NM* - 06/10/2009 09:38:30 PM 295 Views
I've been following this with some interest - 29/09/2009 03:28:36 PM 450 Views
That was my impression as well. - 29/09/2009 03:38:48 PM 416 Views
Re: That was my impression as well. - 29/09/2009 03:43:36 PM 412 Views
Re: That was my impression as well. - 29/09/2009 03:45:17 PM 426 Views
I agree with many of your points, but on some the facts seem to say something else. - 29/09/2009 04:13:09 PM 621 Views
*agree* *NM* - 29/09/2009 04:20:32 PM 297 Views
Problem of course is that those are not 'facts' - 29/09/2009 04:58:28 PM 609 Views
first you demand fact before judgement then you make a judgement on your opinion? - 29/09/2009 05:04:59 PM 559 Views
Depends on the circumstances - 29/09/2009 05:35:13 PM 555 Views
because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either - 29/09/2009 04:17:06 PM 599 Views
Re: because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either - 29/09/2009 05:17:57 PM 507 Views
*snort* - 29/09/2009 05:30:25 PM 527 Views
I would have to agree with you there, actually - 29/09/2009 05:47:13 PM 658 Views
Re: I would have to agree with your first point, but not the second - 29/09/2009 05:47:40 PM 645 Views
There is no way in hell he did not know she was underage. - 29/09/2009 05:55:37 PM 579 Views
Not necessarily true at all - 29/09/2009 06:32:18 PM 526 Views
Somehow, i heavily doubt the fact she was NOT 18 would never have come to light - 29/09/2009 06:40:20 PM 588 Views
You may be right, I don't know. - 29/09/2009 06:58:45 PM 641 Views
so you agree he is guilty to the allegation he pleaded guilty to of sex with a minor? - 29/09/2009 07:09:07 PM 516 Views
There was never any doubt of that - 29/09/2009 07:46:43 PM 491 Views
See below, - 29/09/2009 07:54:09 PM 572 Views
Yeah, I agree about the vigilante part and the extreme reactions... - 29/09/2009 07:58:18 PM 623 Views
I think I'm reading that article more critically than you are. - 29/09/2009 08:37:23 PM 572 Views
Or you've already made up your mind, while I'm basing mine on what I read. - 29/09/2009 08:46:56 PM 649 Views
I haven't entirely made up my mind - 29/09/2009 08:55:30 PM 537 Views
don't you think he'd say something about it NOW? - 29/09/2009 08:48:59 PM 395 Views
I don't know - 29/09/2009 08:57:27 PM 431 Views
An article that has a lot of additional detail... - 29/09/2009 07:18:29 PM 644 Views
I wish i could put a nice big star next to this. - 29/09/2009 07:29:38 PM 521 Views
Umm - why? - 29/09/2009 08:04:29 PM 571 Views
Yes, well, online newspaper archives don't tend to date back very far... - 29/09/2009 08:14:52 PM 610 Views
Oh, and if you want to read the op-ed she wrote... - 29/09/2009 08:20:06 PM 573 Views
Now I'd be interested to see the actual court records - 29/09/2009 08:24:13 PM 518 Views
Me too - 29/09/2009 08:33:36 PM 399 Views
Yeah, nothing new there really - 29/09/2009 08:26:24 PM 616 Views
There's always room for exceptions, however... - 29/09/2009 04:53:34 PM 421 Views
Camilla - he drugged and raped a 13-year old.....what else do you need to know? *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:19:19 PM 329 Views
I don't know that. Neither do you. Which is part of it. *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:20:22 PM 329 Views
Yes we do..... - 29/09/2009 06:30:46 PM 582 Views
No, we don't. - 29/09/2009 06:48:35 PM 537 Views
if these "Facts" were false - 29/09/2009 07:02:50 PM 556 Views
That's extremely naive - 29/09/2009 08:07:15 PM 449 Views
i fail to see how this is naive - 29/09/2009 08:35:59 PM 606 Views
The naive part - 29/09/2009 08:49:18 PM 650 Views
I'm not assuming anyone (not just her personal testimony) was telling the truth - 29/09/2009 08:56:52 PM 630 Views
I think that I'm just more cynical than you are - 29/09/2009 09:12:12 PM 573 Views
So because i'm not cynical about the court system and have a different train of logic - 29/09/2009 09:25:53 PM 594 Views
Not necessarily wrong - 29/09/2009 09:43:33 PM 570 Views
Uhm, his bargain wasn't 40-odd days in evaulation - 29/09/2009 09:51:22 PM 421 Views
Not what I read, but this whole thing is so messy... - 29/09/2009 10:25:59 PM 498 Views
I don't remember which article it was from - 29/09/2009 10:32:32 PM 370 Views
One thing that was clear - 29/09/2009 11:08:43 PM 615 Views
Ah I didn't catch that - 29/09/2009 11:15:06 PM 536 Views
Could you source that? - 29/09/2009 11:18:46 PM 582 Views
it's one of the articles that's been linked - 29/09/2009 11:59:02 PM 528 Views
The Mail article, yeah. *NM* - 30/09/2009 12:01:48 AM 194 Views
Uhm, his bargain wasn't 40-odd days in evaulation - 29/09/2009 09:51:24 PM 512 Views
Yes, we do.....drugs & rape of a 13-year old - 29/09/2009 07:10:02 PM 565 Views
you do know that just because you repeat something it doesn't instantly become true? *NM* - 29/09/2009 07:11:03 PM 184 Views
and how many times have y'all said it was false? *NM* - 29/09/2009 07:13:27 PM 322 Views
Hello pot, this is kettle, you're black too..... - 29/09/2009 08:16:16 PM 428 Views
Wow - I guess every allegation ever made by a prosecutor is true - 29/09/2009 08:09:43 PM 445 Views
I guess you believe every criminal who says "I didn't do it"..... - 29/09/2009 08:18:29 PM 535 Views
Nope - 29/09/2009 09:14:02 PM 424 Views
He admitted it. - 29/09/2009 10:45:43 PM 584 Views
You don't get it do you? - 29/09/2009 11:15:27 PM 548 Views
Nothing in the case which he admitted guilt to is in dispute. - 29/09/2009 11:45:05 PM 549 Views
Hardly - 30/09/2009 11:18:42 PM 548 Views
Seriously, are you related to Roman the Rapist? - 30/09/2009 01:11:44 AM 553 Views
I want to go on record as saying: I really dislike agreeing with you - 30/09/2009 05:03:24 AM 626 Views
Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny - 01/10/2009 12:23:53 AM 546 Views
Re: Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny - 01/10/2009 05:55:46 AM 589 Views
Honestly Amy, you know nothing whatsoever about my life or why I do things - 01/10/2009 04:03:38 PM 557 Views
I only have one thing left to say to you. - 01/10/2009 04:08:42 PM 396 Views
You are certainly entitled to your opinion - 01/10/2009 04:23:32 PM 417 Views
I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. *NM* - 01/10/2009 04:07:59 PM 306 Views
I agree, and already said the same once. It appears that was deleted. *NM* - 01/10/2009 05:15:07 PM 338 Views
Sorry Nossy.. - 01/10/2009 06:24:26 PM 542 Views
It was meant to be advice - 01/10/2009 06:39:31 PM 393 Views
That entire conversation when I deleted the original post. - 01/10/2009 06:30:00 PM 514 Views
No no.. - 01/10/2009 06:43:19 PM 553 Views
Re: I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. - 01/10/2009 06:21:37 PM 406 Views
Heh! - 01/10/2009 06:28:07 PM 419 Views
I second that. *NM* - 01/10/2009 08:21:13 PM 196 Views
No, I happen to dislike vigilante idiots - 30/09/2009 11:21:53 PM 394 Views
Re: No, we don't. - 29/09/2009 10:09:32 PM 511 Views
Re: No, we don't. - 29/09/2009 11:21:08 PM 658 Views
I think for the 1st time ever i'm actually stunned by the comments on this board. - 29/09/2009 07:14:18 PM 489 Views
Oh but he didn't KNOW - 29/09/2009 07:17:55 PM 469 Views
Ignorance doesn't have to be proven in court - 29/09/2009 08:11:31 PM 404 Views
no you have back asswards - 29/09/2009 08:14:36 PM 450 Views
You're talking ethics and then switch to law - 29/09/2009 09:17:02 PM 443 Views
yes the law can be stupid but not so stupid that you can use the - 29/09/2009 10:32:49 PM 451 Views
Oh it's EASILY that stupid and even stupider - 29/09/2009 10:58:33 PM 582 Views
If the girl has to call and ask her mommy if she can stay late you should ask her age - 30/09/2009 04:04:33 PM 430 Views
He knew her age. The photo-shoot was specifically looking at young girls. - 30/09/2009 04:42:01 PM 544 Views
Of course he knew he age - 30/09/2009 05:01:19 PM 542 Views
Obviously - because you say so right? - 30/09/2009 11:25:18 PM 399 Views
You really have to be a moron to believ he didn't - 01/10/2009 06:27:04 AM 418 Views
That stupidity isn't even worthy of a reply. *NM* - 01/10/2009 04:21:35 PM 313 Views
Wow, way to make up 'facts' - 30/09/2009 11:23:13 PM 619 Views
Do you actually READ any of the articles??? - 01/10/2009 12:06:54 AM 401 Views
I did and I just went and re-read that one to be sure - 01/10/2009 12:44:46 AM 593 Views
~nods~ *NM* - 29/09/2009 07:32:29 PM 303 Views
It's not the first time, but I agree. - 29/09/2009 07:44:06 PM 521 Views
Way to go for a straw man - 29/09/2009 07:45:44 PM 586 Views
I agree that he is most definitely not a pedophile - 29/09/2009 07:50:23 PM 648 Views
As to your question, I have no idea - 29/09/2009 07:59:43 PM 643 Views
That is not what staute of limitations is - 29/09/2009 07:52:32 PM 403 Views
Yes - 29/09/2009 08:00:49 PM 424 Views
Re: Yes - 29/09/2009 08:13:24 PM 572 Views
I prefer the Tin Man myself - 29/09/2009 07:57:07 PM 614 Views
Re: Way to go for a straw man - 30/09/2009 05:05:47 PM 540 Views
No one has excused him. But there is no point any longer in going after him. - 29/09/2009 08:15:42 PM 675 Views
i can certainly agree that it's a waste of time and resources - 29/09/2009 08:20:19 PM 408 Views
there are advantages and disadvantages to being famous - 29/09/2009 08:49:21 PM 413 Views
Agreed - I can't believe people are defending this d-bag.....amazing! *NM* - 29/09/2009 08:25:05 PM 317 Views
It is rather mind-boggling *NM* - 29/09/2009 08:29:11 PM 306 Views
well - 29/09/2009 08:34:56 PM 550 Views
I'm all for the gray and considerin both sides. - 29/09/2009 08:45:50 PM 462 Views
Ben Franklin once said - 29/09/2009 09:30:16 PM 610 Views
*snort* - 29/09/2009 10:02:13 PM 614 Views
I'd say you need to spend more time around lawyers - 29/09/2009 10:40:05 PM 511 Views
isn't he still churning out movies like crazy? - 29/09/2009 10:42:48 PM 430 Views
I've no idea - 29/09/2009 11:22:20 PM 556 Views
Exactly Nossy - 29/09/2009 09:20:14 PM 655 Views
Well it's certainly apparent you're sticking to it *NM* - 29/09/2009 09:27:48 PM 304 Views
That's always been how I am though. - 29/09/2009 09:32:30 PM 585 Views
I've decided I really don't care about this either way at all. - 29/09/2009 08:38:14 PM 519 Views
It has an effect on good cinema *NM* - 29/09/2009 08:52:58 PM 235 Views
there's been people saying he shouldn't get his Oscar for it - 29/09/2009 08:59:04 PM 410 Views
Doubtful. - 30/09/2009 02:04:52 AM 527 Views
How recent is recently? - 30/09/2009 02:22:39 AM 482 Views
There's a lot of misinformation flying around here. - 29/09/2009 11:22:29 PM 604 Views
That would be more convincing if you didn't have incorrect information yourself. - 29/09/2009 11:58:40 PM 418 Views
I just worked that out. - 30/09/2009 12:07:43 AM 599 Views
Re: I just worked that out. - 30/09/2009 12:28:13 AM 567 Views
Re: I just worked that out. - 30/09/2009 12:42:17 AM 557 Views
Small correction - 01/10/2009 12:15:45 AM 531 Views
Think about that one a bit - 30/09/2009 11:34:56 PM 594 Views
Add to that also - 30/09/2009 11:30:14 PM 613 Views
Excellent summary on Roman the Rapist.....good job! *NM* - 30/09/2009 01:13:35 AM 320 Views
Most impressive - 30/09/2009 01:21:42 AM 393 Views
Excellent - and done better than most of the rest of us. *NM* - 30/09/2009 03:34:11 PM 332 Views
In my opinion... - 30/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 534 Views
Can I just say... - 30/09/2009 05:54:47 PM 560 Views
The state is also a vicitm - 30/09/2009 06:17:22 PM 583 Views
Hardly, in this case - 30/09/2009 11:57:48 PM 431 Views
you know your arguments would have more merit if you had a clue what your were talking about - 01/10/2009 06:24:35 AM 409 Views
You should know what you are talking about before you post - 01/10/2009 04:18:50 PM 612 Views
OK go learn something and then come back - 01/10/2009 05:15:45 PM 592 Views
I note that you ignore the fact that I just proved you wrong... - 01/10/2009 05:27:01 PM 516 Views
no you just mistated some crap that I ignored *sigh* - 01/10/2009 06:30:03 PM 408 Views
The girl and mother requested to cut a deal, so the 13-year old wouldn't have to testify..... - 01/10/2009 04:28:49 PM 396 Views
Actually, the prosecution cut the deal - 01/10/2009 05:29:29 PM 532 Views
And the most important reason for justice... - 30/09/2009 07:43:33 PM 641 Views
Just to be clear - 30/09/2009 11:47:42 PM 620 Views
This may help some of the argument, but sadly not much - 01/10/2009 02:06:22 AM 574 Views
It's not just that he admitted to it in the plea bargain. - 01/10/2009 03:10:37 AM 618 Views
*agree* *NM* - 01/10/2009 02:36:05 PM 200 Views
Yes, looking at him very strangely.....he's jumping the shark big-time on this one! - 01/10/2009 04:31:43 PM 435 Views
Apparently you don't get the idea of honest debate - 01/10/2009 06:40:45 PM 578 Views
Good news - French government drops support for director Roman Polanski - 01/10/2009 04:46:42 PM 565 Views
Hypocrites. *NM* - 01/10/2009 05:41:34 PM 374 Views
Yeah pretty much - 01/10/2009 06:28:01 PM 452 Views
Well, unless I find some new facts to post - I think I'm done with this thread - 01/10/2009 06:59:36 PM 682 Views
It was quite a valiant effort - 01/10/2009 08:30:23 PM 434 Views
I agree the attacks on you personally were not warranted and were out of line. - 03/10/2009 03:02:03 AM 612 Views
Please. - 05/10/2009 03:35:50 PM 597 Views
My "bottom line" on this subject: - 01/10/2009 07:21:19 PM 589 Views

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