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You give them too much credit. Wibble Send a noteboard - 11/02/2013 11:19:06 PM
Most of the good that has come about has been an unintended byproduct of actions to increase their own power and deliver their own message. They being the institution in this sense.

And as for World War 2, individuals may have committed great acts, but the institution did not.

But here and now they already have power in Africa for example, and they could use it for some good, but they probably wont, because they are only interested in increasing their hold, and their power.
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So the Pope has resigned Wibble - 11/02/2013 01:01:59 PM 1422 Views
Re: So the Pope has resigned HyogaRott - 11/02/2013 02:29:13 PM 844 Views
As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision..... Anonymous2000 - 12/02/2013 03:05:34 AM 801 Views
Re: As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision..... HyogaRott - 12/02/2013 09:21:30 PM 744 Views
One mistake in my original post..... Anonymous2000 - 13/02/2013 01:27:48 AM 736 Views
Re: As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision..... Cannoli - 13/02/2013 01:35:14 AM 708 Views
Re: As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision..... HyogaRott - 13/02/2013 03:45:23 PM 792 Views
Luke or Paul? Isaac - 13/02/2013 04:36:27 PM 723 Views
That is what I get for only having decaf coffee this morning... HyogaRott - 13/02/2013 05:43:57 PM 789 Views
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this point. Jeordam - 13/02/2013 06:36:03 PM 636 Views
Re: I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this point. HyogaRott - 14/02/2013 11:12:34 PM 737 Views
Hate to jump you again but are you sure you mean Timothy? Isaac - 14/02/2013 11:54:00 PM 771 Views
Yep, I ment Timothy HyogaRott - 15/02/2013 04:18:21 AM 739 Views
Re: Yep, I ment Timothy Isaac - 15/02/2013 11:03:16 AM 728 Views
If "the bible is still the bible," then what of Deborah, Huldah and Phoebe, to name but a few? Joel - 13/02/2013 06:17:44 PM 858 Views
Why wouldn't it still be devinely inspired? Jeordam - 13/02/2013 06:44:07 PM 767 Views
Um, because then God was lying when He inspired someone to write "this is not Gods commandment." Joel - 13/02/2013 07:42:15 PM 755 Views
You're missing a really key point Jeordam - 13/02/2013 09:13:32 PM 794 Views
You are using an epistle to say every word of all epistles is divinely inspired? Joel - 13/02/2013 10:00:36 PM 925 Views
Let us take it full circle: The ecclesiastical authority of women Joel - 13/02/2013 10:21:26 PM 814 Views
Shouldn't you be able to answer this question from what you just wrote? Jeordam - 13/02/2013 11:02:28 PM 824 Views
Oh, certainly; I just felt like I was dragging you with me kicking and screaming. Joel - 14/02/2013 01:05:14 AM 782 Views
So Roman Catholic priests CAN marry, under tortuous conditions? Interesting.... Joel - 13/02/2013 03:40:48 PM 671 Views
A priest can't marry, but a married person can become a priest. HyogaRott - 13/02/2013 03:51:02 PM 702 Views
Heh, yeah, I guess I slightly mischaracterized what you were saying. Joel - 13/02/2013 05:54:05 PM 817 Views
There are a bunch of semi-Catholic denominations that allow priests to marry. Legolas - 13/02/2013 06:06:13 PM 713 Views
That makes more sense. Joel - 13/02/2013 06:23:36 PM 785 Views
Here's my chance. I'm putting in my application. Palatine - 11/02/2013 04:20:52 PM 891 Views
Unfortunately it matters due to the power he has... Wibble - 11/02/2013 04:42:25 PM 834 Views
Religions don't work that way. They are full of moral absolutes. There is no flexibility *NM* Dark Knight - 11/02/2013 06:10:19 PM 394 Views
Of course there is flexibility. The minute their money is threatened they flex like mad... *NM* Wibble - 11/02/2013 06:25:02 PM 390 Views
I'd imagine Unitarians and several other religions would beg to differ Isaac - 11/02/2013 09:28:39 PM 805 Views
Hah, are you kidding? beetnemesis - 13/02/2013 02:20:54 PM 868 Views
You would like the Roman Catholic Church to do some good FOR ONCE?! Joel - 11/02/2013 08:00:26 PM 893 Views
Well said. *NM* Ghavrel - 11/02/2013 10:55:18 PM 437 Views
You give them too much credit. Wibble - 11/02/2013 11:19:06 PM 863 Views
Put on blinders much? HyogaRott - 11/02/2013 11:50:01 PM 805 Views
I lol'd. *NM* Wibble - 11/02/2013 11:54:09 PM 412 Views
Grant me Chastity and Continence, But Not Yet! *NM* Roland00 - 12/02/2013 03:35:26 AM 339 Views
Chastity: A Virtue best found in others *NM* Isaac - 12/02/2013 12:53:26 PM 343 Views
and continence too, apparently..... *NM* moondog - 14/02/2013 12:18:22 AM 408 Views
Well said. Cannoli - 13/02/2013 01:43:47 AM 685 Views
You really don't know how human psychology works, do you? Legolas - 13/02/2013 06:28:23 PM 755 Views
..and you don't get that it isn't what people will/may do, but what they should. HyogaRott - 15/02/2013 04:22:26 AM 946 Views
It's not religion, it's HIV or no HIV. Legolas - 15/02/2013 10:45:52 PM 720 Views
it's not HIV or no HIV, it is about what people should do. HyogaRott - 16/02/2013 07:02:36 PM 778 Views
Of course they don't have to teach people how to use condoms. Legolas - 17/02/2013 10:46:38 AM 709 Views
You're showing some glaring bias and hostility here Isaac - 12/02/2013 01:58:17 PM 702 Views
No, you are giving them far too little. Joel - 13/02/2013 03:33:03 PM 707 Views
The catholic church is significantly growing in Africa and with Hispanics. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 12/02/2013 03:41:54 AM 464 Views
Oh, that. Palatine - 12/02/2013 03:04:42 PM 669 Views
That's such a load Cannoli - 13/02/2013 01:39:45 AM 761 Views
Oops, I meant to reply here - As a catholic.....my take. Anonymous2000 - 12/02/2013 03:39:42 AM 824 Views
I'd say the chances are about as good... Dragonsoul - 12/02/2013 03:48:29 PM 924 Views
So teh chances are excellent then! Good to know. Wibble - 12/02/2013 04:51:43 PM 758 Views
I doubt there's much of a chance of a real progressive. Stephen - 12/02/2013 06:38:14 PM 733 Views
IDK, two straight non-Italians? Will they put up with a 3rd? Has that even happened since Avignon? Cannoli - 13/02/2013 01:46:28 AM 799 Views
Who says Benedict/Ratzinger is straight? Roland00 - 13/02/2013 04:56:52 AM 696 Views
Don't think so, but the Italians will have to get used to it. Legolas - 13/02/2013 06:34:24 PM 695 Views
This will be a very interesting time. Dannymac - 13/02/2013 06:27:41 PM 820 Views
He's retiring into a monastery in the Vatican, as I understand it. Legolas - 13/02/2013 06:42:14 PM 819 Views
Now this would be interesting.... Jeordam - 13/02/2013 06:51:40 PM 785 Views
Right now I would settle for making up lost ground... Dannymac - 14/02/2013 05:02:38 AM 694 Views
Pope Bene-victed... Raserei - 19/02/2013 07:56:17 AM 976 Views
Hurrah, Ras. I love a good pun or three. *NM* Palatine - 19/02/2013 01:55:11 PM 314 Views
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