You really don't know how human psychology works, do you?
Legolas Send a noteboard - 13/02/2013 06:28:23 PM
Not to mention, in their own best interests! With all the STDs being such a problem, you'd think people would at least be cautious. If they are going bareback and claiming it is out of adherence to Catholic doctrine, they are merely using it as an excuse. No one can be invested enough in Catholicism to be aware of and influenced by the prohibition on condoms, and at the same time be ignorant of the far more explicit and frequently promulgated teachings on promiscuity and extramarital sex.
That last sentence is really nonsense. What you mean is, no one should combine those two stances, because to do so is inconsistent at best. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen, or even that the people who do that are in any way exceptional in their hypocrisy.
No matter which religion you look at or which group of believers you study (including non-religious "beliefs" or adherences like, say, veganism), there will always be some rules or doctrines that people adhere to far closer than others. Among those that are most closely adhered to, you'd have the things that most strongly distinguish the religion in question, like the dietary laws for Jews and Muslims, and also things that align with pre-existing personal or culturally ingrained preferences or aversions - like the distaste for condoms.
But the laws banning things which are almost universally tempting, and against which you can't really create a lasting cultural aversion, such as extramarital sex (or, say, gluttony), well, it's hardly a surprise if those are less convincing and people try to sneak around them more. But just because they break those rules, doesn't mean they then think "while I'm at it, might as well break those other rules too". A Jew or Muslim who generally eats kosher/halal, but then commits adultery, would not consider that a reason to suddenly stop eating kosher/halal as well.
And then of course there's the issue that by opposing condoms (and for that matter other forms of birth control) so strongly, the Catholic Church effectively keeps them away not only from its own believers but also from many who aren't practicing Catholics, but just happen to live in predominantly Catholic regions or countries. America is quite an unusual case in having such strong religious diversity nearly everywhere due to all the immigration; in most other countries, that really isn't the case (it's admittedly becoming more so in many places, but there's a long way to go).
So the Pope has resigned
- 11/02/2013 01:01:59 PM
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- 11/02/2013 02:29:13 PM
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As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision.....
- 12/02/2013 03:05:34 AM
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Re: As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision.....
- 12/02/2013 09:21:30 PM
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Re: As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision.....
- 13/02/2013 01:35:14 AM
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Re: As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision.....
- 13/02/2013 03:45:23 PM
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I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this point.
- 13/02/2013 06:36:03 PM
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Re: I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this point.
- 14/02/2013 11:12:34 PM
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Hate to jump you again but are you sure you mean Timothy?
- 14/02/2013 11:54:00 PM
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If "the bible is still the bible," then what of Deborah, Huldah and Phoebe, to name but a few?
- 13/02/2013 06:17:44 PM
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Why wouldn't it still be devinely inspired?
- 13/02/2013 06:44:07 PM
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Um, because then God was lying when He inspired someone to write "this is not Gods commandment."
- 13/02/2013 07:42:15 PM
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You're missing a really key point
- 13/02/2013 09:13:32 PM
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You are using an epistle to say every word of all epistles is divinely inspired?
- 13/02/2013 10:00:36 PM
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- 13/02/2013 10:00:36 PM
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Let us take it full circle: The ecclesiastical authority of women
- 13/02/2013 10:21:26 PM
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Shouldn't you be able to answer this question from what you just wrote?
- 13/02/2013 11:02:28 PM
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Oh, certainly; I just felt like I was dragging you with me kicking and screaming.
- 14/02/2013 01:05:14 AM
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- 14/02/2013 01:05:14 AM
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So Roman Catholic priests CAN marry, under tortuous conditions? Interesting....
- 13/02/2013 03:40:48 PM
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A priest can't marry, but a married person can become a priest.
- 13/02/2013 03:51:02 PM
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Heh, yeah, I guess I slightly mischaracterized what you were saying.
- 13/02/2013 05:54:05 PM
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There are a bunch of semi-Catholic denominations that allow priests to marry.
- 13/02/2013 06:06:13 PM
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Here's my chance. I'm putting in my application.
- 11/02/2013 04:20:52 PM
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Unfortunately it matters due to the power he has...
- 11/02/2013 04:42:25 PM
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Religions don't work that way. They are full of moral absolutes. There is no flexibility *NM*
- 11/02/2013 06:10:19 PM
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Of course there is flexibility. The minute their money is threatened they flex like mad... *NM*
- 11/02/2013 06:25:02 PM
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I'd imagine Unitarians and several other religions would beg to differ
- 11/02/2013 09:28:39 PM
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You would like the Roman Catholic Church to do some good FOR ONCE?!
- 11/02/2013 08:00:26 PM
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- 11/02/2013 08:00:26 PM
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You give them too much credit.
- 11/02/2013 11:19:06 PM
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Put on blinders much?
- 11/02/2013 11:50:01 PM
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Grant me Chastity and Continence, But Not Yet! *NM*
- 12/02/2013 03:35:26 AM
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Well said.
- 13/02/2013 01:43:47 AM
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You really don't know how human psychology works, do you?
- 13/02/2013 06:28:23 PM
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..and you don't get that it isn't what people will/may do, but what they should.
- 15/02/2013 04:22:26 AM
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It's not religion, it's HIV or no HIV.
- 15/02/2013 10:45:52 PM
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The catholic church is significantly growing in Africa and with Hispanics. *NM*
- 12/02/2013 03:41:54 AM
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I doubt there's much of a chance of a real progressive.
- 12/02/2013 06:38:14 PM
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IDK, two straight non-Italians? Will they put up with a 3rd? Has that even happened since Avignon?
- 13/02/2013 01:46:28 AM
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This will be a very interesting time.
- 13/02/2013 06:27:41 PM
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He's retiring into a monastery in the Vatican, as I understand it.
- 13/02/2013 06:42:14 PM
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