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Liberalism has officially failed - Poverty reaches 1960 levels - Anonymous2000 Send a noteboard - 04/04/2013 12:33:15 AM

After tens of trillions spent on fighting poverty, we have zero to show for it (from the AP):

"The U.S. Census Bureau puts the number of Americans in poverty at levels not seen since the mid-1960s when President Lyndon B. Johnson launched the federal government's so-called War on Poverty. As President Barack Obama began his second term in January, nearly 50 million Americans — one in six — were living below the income line that defines poverty, according to the bureau. A family of four that earns less than $23,021 a year is listed as living in poverty. The bureau said 20 percent of the country's children are poor."

Perhaps it is time to try something else?

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Liberalism has officially failed - Poverty reaches 1960 levels - Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:33:15 AM 1434 Views
As has Conservatism. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 12:37:23 AM 883 Views
I know it hurts.....but the truth about liberalism will set you free! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:42:57 AM 1007 Views
That's a flawed analogy these days, since conservative policies are anti-education spending. Burr - 04/04/2013 01:24:22 AM 1015 Views
Have you ever tried to fish when really hungry? Dannymac - 04/04/2013 06:32:17 AM 939 Views
HA! HA! In your dreams that's how liberalism works. How about..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:59:33 PM 865 Views
and lo, Jesus said unto the poor gathered to him: "begone freeloaders! the wealthy need more money" moondog - 04/04/2013 06:43:32 PM 969 Views
Interestingly enough.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:20:06 PM 952 Views
Re: Interestingly enough.... nossy - 04/04/2013 09:31:27 PM 938 Views
Well here is where theology gets fun.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:48:50 PM 980 Views
The entire post...as well as many of the sub-threads....prompts the question of: Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:39:16 PM 997 Views
it depends on what your definition of "succeed" is i guess.... moondog - 04/04/2013 10:27:30 PM 1078 Views
And that is certainly your opinion.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 10:54:08 PM 1041 Views
Re: And that is certainly your opinion.... moondog - 04/04/2013 11:57:34 PM 1100 Views
Hmm good questions Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:29:45 PM 1020 Views
you contradicted yourself moondog - 04/04/2013 10:44:47 PM 974 Views
Re: you contradicted yourself Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:54:35 PM 1023 Views
i think i understand where you're coming from.... moondog - 05/04/2013 07:33:32 PM 996 Views
I see the problem random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:45:53 PM 940 Views
since you don't trust the gov't, what are you doing to help the poor survive? moondog - 04/04/2013 12:58:49 AM 1026 Views
A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:15:32 AM 949 Views
Re: A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... moondog - 04/04/2013 06:42:00 PM 1087 Views
Perhaps its time to try a little fact checking. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:34:44 AM 1215 Views
I'm happy you agree with me, liberalism has failed and it's time for something different. Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 03:47:17 AM 901 Views
Oh the cleverness of you. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:52:07 AM 1094 Views
Wow, I'm shocked. Yes, let's stick with the failed status quo. Good plan! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:17:32 AM 853 Views
Who said anything about the status quo? I just said I didn't agree with your solution. *NM* heartbreak - 04/04/2013 04:19:37 AM 551 Views
Then time to step up, what's your idea? Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:22:58 AM 849 Views
As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" heartbreak - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM 1108 Views
How typicaly conservative! And no. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 02:05:00 PM 903 Views
Variaitons of this plan have been tried elsewhere with lesser or negligible resistance Isaac - 04/04/2013 03:31:22 PM 984 Views
Agreed and this is how we will finance such a move Roland00 - 04/04/2013 04:01:46 AM 1008 Views
I'm glad you agree! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:21:25 AM 913 Views
No, in Europe, liberalism is generally successful Sports_Gambler - 04/04/2013 06:15:34 AM 906 Views
Liberalism & Conservatism 'officially fail' about ever other year I've noticed, still around though *NM* Isaac - 04/04/2013 09:02:42 AM 476 Views
Yes. I wonder if there will ever be an age of fiscally responsible/conservative liberals. Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:41:09 AM 983 Views
I guess it depends on how you define the terms Isaac - 05/04/2013 08:52:25 AM 1150 Views
*nod* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 01:30:47 PM 976 Views
Re: *nod* Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:12:17 PM 949 Views
Off topic: are you gardening yet? Avendesora - 05/04/2013 02:25:06 PM 824 Views
Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:21:25 PM 812 Views
Re: Initial stuff moondog - 05/04/2013 07:10:57 PM 902 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 08:19:16 PM 953 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:21:56 PM 941 Views
I didn't know they make LED grow lights! Avendesora - 06/04/2013 12:18:25 AM 1072 Views
It's a bit newer because of the price, that's been dropping Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:20:10 AM 984 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:11:12 PM 1079 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 07:56:47 PM 973 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 12:36:10 AM 1134 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 06/04/2013 02:01:59 AM 1016 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 03:19:39 AM 874 Views
Yes, the logical step is to go for Nordic style socialism. jh - 04/04/2013 03:19:17 PM 971 Views
well that and a tiny homogenous population funded by large oil reserves random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:57:51 PM 938 Views
Eh, you're describing norway. jh - 04/04/2013 08:11:25 PM 871 Views
The Economist (of all people) was singing the praises of the Nordic countries recently. Legolas - 04/04/2013 08:49:36 PM 981 Views
Hey, guess what? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:55:59 PM 875 Views
Awesome. Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:22:13 PM 801 Views
Oh my gosh! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:27:17 PM 819 Views
Yes! Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:33:45 PM 857 Views
Yay! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:37:40 PM 934 Views
We're Maryland, actually, as I recall. Legolas - 04/04/2013 10:15:49 PM 863 Views
You need to vist Dallas or LA and tell me what qualifes for a large immigrant population random thoughts - 05/04/2013 03:23:13 AM 880 Views
Eh survival of the fittest Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 06:18:52 PM 1002 Views
Excuse me? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:42:24 PM 908 Views
Cry me a river Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 08:55:40 PM 931 Views
Funny. nossy - 04/04/2013 09:18:15 PM 928 Views
Re: Funny. Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:19:35 PM 927 Views
good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit moondog - 04/04/2013 10:38:45 PM 939 Views
Re: good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:49:14 PM 947 Views
Wow. nossy - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM 918 Views
Re: Wow. Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 12:18:08 AM 1052 Views
congrats on being part of the problem.... *NM* moondog - 05/04/2013 04:48:58 AM 506 Views
It's pointless to argue with those who don't understand the psychology of generational poverty. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:43:40 AM 471 Views
Clearly. *NM* nossy - 05/04/2013 07:32:21 PM 427 Views
Oh the "it's nobody's fault excuse" Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 08:56:51 PM 882 Views
Get back to me when you know wtf you're talking about. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 09:03:08 PM 460 Views
I'm back *NM* Nighthawk - 06/04/2013 01:40:47 AM 427 Views
You're over-generalizing a bit Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:49:02 AM 1045 Views
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