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No, in Europe, liberalism is generally successful Sports_Gambler Send a noteboard - 04/04/2013 06:15:34 AM

Poverty in Europe is generally at much lower levels than the US, because welfare spending is generally much higher (funded by higher taxation).

Poverty in the US is greater, due to less spending on welfare, and lower taxation.

It isn't rocket science.



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Liberalism has officially failed - Poverty reaches 1960 levels - Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:33:15 AM 1437 Views
As has Conservatism. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 12:37:23 AM 884 Views
I know it hurts.....but the truth about liberalism will set you free! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:42:57 AM 1007 Views
That's a flawed analogy these days, since conservative policies are anti-education spending. Burr - 04/04/2013 01:24:22 AM 1019 Views
Have you ever tried to fish when really hungry? Dannymac - 04/04/2013 06:32:17 AM 945 Views
HA! HA! In your dreams that's how liberalism works. How about..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:59:33 PM 870 Views
and lo, Jesus said unto the poor gathered to him: "begone freeloaders! the wealthy need more money" moondog - 04/04/2013 06:43:32 PM 976 Views
Interestingly enough.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:20:06 PM 953 Views
Re: Interestingly enough.... nossy - 04/04/2013 09:31:27 PM 944 Views
Well here is where theology gets fun.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:48:50 PM 985 Views
The entire post...as well as many of the sub-threads....prompts the question of: Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:39:16 PM 1003 Views
it depends on what your definition of "succeed" is i guess.... moondog - 04/04/2013 10:27:30 PM 1086 Views
And that is certainly your opinion.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 10:54:08 PM 1047 Views
Re: And that is certainly your opinion.... moondog - 04/04/2013 11:57:34 PM 1103 Views
Hmm good questions Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:29:45 PM 1022 Views
you contradicted yourself moondog - 04/04/2013 10:44:47 PM 980 Views
Re: you contradicted yourself Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:54:35 PM 1026 Views
i think i understand where you're coming from.... moondog - 05/04/2013 07:33:32 PM 1001 Views
I see the problem random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:45:53 PM 943 Views
since you don't trust the gov't, what are you doing to help the poor survive? moondog - 04/04/2013 12:58:49 AM 1030 Views
A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:15:32 AM 953 Views
Re: A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... moondog - 04/04/2013 06:42:00 PM 1091 Views
Perhaps its time to try a little fact checking. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:34:44 AM 1222 Views
I'm happy you agree with me, liberalism has failed and it's time for something different. Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 03:47:17 AM 906 Views
Oh the cleverness of you. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:52:07 AM 1099 Views
Wow, I'm shocked. Yes, let's stick with the failed status quo. Good plan! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:17:32 AM 859 Views
Who said anything about the status quo? I just said I didn't agree with your solution. *NM* heartbreak - 04/04/2013 04:19:37 AM 553 Views
Then time to step up, what's your idea? Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:22:58 AM 855 Views
As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" heartbreak - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM 1116 Views
How typicaly conservative! And no. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 02:05:00 PM 907 Views
Variaitons of this plan have been tried elsewhere with lesser or negligible resistance Isaac - 04/04/2013 03:31:22 PM 988 Views
Agreed and this is how we will finance such a move Roland00 - 04/04/2013 04:01:46 AM 1013 Views
I'm glad you agree! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:21:25 AM 918 Views
No, in Europe, liberalism is generally successful Sports_Gambler - 04/04/2013 06:15:34 AM 912 Views
Liberalism & Conservatism 'officially fail' about ever other year I've noticed, still around though *NM* Isaac - 04/04/2013 09:02:42 AM 479 Views
Yes. I wonder if there will ever be an age of fiscally responsible/conservative liberals. Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:41:09 AM 988 Views
I guess it depends on how you define the terms Isaac - 05/04/2013 08:52:25 AM 1150 Views
*nod* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 01:30:47 PM 992 Views
Re: *nod* Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:12:17 PM 962 Views
Off topic: are you gardening yet? Avendesora - 05/04/2013 02:25:06 PM 827 Views
Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:21:25 PM 818 Views
Re: Initial stuff moondog - 05/04/2013 07:10:57 PM 905 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 08:19:16 PM 956 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:21:56 PM 945 Views
I didn't know they make LED grow lights! Avendesora - 06/04/2013 12:18:25 AM 1075 Views
It's a bit newer because of the price, that's been dropping Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:20:10 AM 990 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:11:12 PM 1082 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 07:56:47 PM 977 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 12:36:10 AM 1139 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 06/04/2013 02:01:59 AM 1021 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 03:19:39 AM 881 Views
Yes, the logical step is to go for Nordic style socialism. jh - 04/04/2013 03:19:17 PM 975 Views
well that and a tiny homogenous population funded by large oil reserves random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:57:51 PM 942 Views
Eh, you're describing norway. jh - 04/04/2013 08:11:25 PM 874 Views
The Economist (of all people) was singing the praises of the Nordic countries recently. Legolas - 04/04/2013 08:49:36 PM 986 Views
Hey, guess what? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:55:59 PM 882 Views
Awesome. Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:22:13 PM 805 Views
Oh my gosh! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:27:17 PM 822 Views
Yes! Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:33:45 PM 868 Views
Yay! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:37:40 PM 942 Views
We're Maryland, actually, as I recall. Legolas - 04/04/2013 10:15:49 PM 869 Views
You need to vist Dallas or LA and tell me what qualifes for a large immigrant population random thoughts - 05/04/2013 03:23:13 AM 884 Views
Eh survival of the fittest Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 06:18:52 PM 1005 Views
Excuse me? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:42:24 PM 910 Views
Cry me a river Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 08:55:40 PM 934 Views
Funny. nossy - 04/04/2013 09:18:15 PM 934 Views
Re: Funny. Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:19:35 PM 930 Views
good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit moondog - 04/04/2013 10:38:45 PM 943 Views
Re: good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:49:14 PM 952 Views
Wow. nossy - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM 923 Views
Re: Wow. Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 12:18:08 AM 1057 Views
congrats on being part of the problem.... *NM* moondog - 05/04/2013 04:48:58 AM 507 Views
It's pointless to argue with those who don't understand the psychology of generational poverty. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:43:40 AM 474 Views
Clearly. *NM* nossy - 05/04/2013 07:32:21 PM 428 Views
Oh the "it's nobody's fault excuse" Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 08:56:51 PM 886 Views
Get back to me when you know wtf you're talking about. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 09:03:08 PM 461 Views
I'm back *NM* Nighthawk - 06/04/2013 01:40:47 AM 431 Views
You're over-generalizing a bit Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:49:02 AM 1057 Views
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