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How typicaly conservative! And no. Dannymac Send a noteboard - 04/04/2013 02:05:00 PM

The Dems have a plan. And the GOP have been doing everything but throwing their bodies in front of it for decades.

The model of this entire time you are gloating so joyously over is liberals trying things and conservatives trying to sabotage the liberals. We aren't the status quo. The status quo is the poverty level preceding the war on poverty, with poor people quietly unseen and heard, just as the conservatives want them to be.

The model has been for conservatives to crow: "You have to give us a new plan, yours isn't working!" It isn't working because there is a strong group in this country vested in the success of only a select few, and in keeping the poor poor.

Unlike you, we have a plan. A plan that you have been sabotaging. Luckily, as the last few elections have shown, your ability to do so is slipping. Maybe the new plan is to stop trying to mollycoddle conservatives along, leave you in the dust, and actually make something other than the 1950's in this country.

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Liberalism has officially failed - Poverty reaches 1960 levels - Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:33:15 AM 1368 Views
As has Conservatism. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 12:37:23 AM 824 Views
I know it hurts.....but the truth about liberalism will set you free! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:42:57 AM 946 Views
That's a flawed analogy these days, since conservative policies are anti-education spending. Burr - 04/04/2013 01:24:22 AM 960 Views
Have you ever tried to fish when really hungry? Dannymac - 04/04/2013 06:32:17 AM 879 Views
HA! HA! In your dreams that's how liberalism works. How about..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:59:33 PM 806 Views
and lo, Jesus said unto the poor gathered to him: "begone freeloaders! the wealthy need more money" moondog - 04/04/2013 06:43:32 PM 906 Views
Interestingly enough.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:20:06 PM 900 Views
Re: Interestingly enough.... nossy - 04/04/2013 09:31:27 PM 885 Views
Well here is where theology gets fun.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:48:50 PM 918 Views
The entire post...as well as many of the sub-threads....prompts the question of: Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:39:16 PM 920 Views
it depends on what your definition of "succeed" is i guess.... moondog - 04/04/2013 10:27:30 PM 971 Views
And that is certainly your opinion.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 10:54:08 PM 968 Views
Re: And that is certainly your opinion.... moondog - 04/04/2013 11:57:34 PM 1042 Views
Hmm good questions Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:29:45 PM 956 Views
you contradicted yourself moondog - 04/04/2013 10:44:47 PM 854 Views
Re: you contradicted yourself Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:54:35 PM 973 Views
i think i understand where you're coming from.... moondog - 05/04/2013 07:33:32 PM 940 Views
I see the problem random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:45:53 PM 892 Views
since you don't trust the gov't, what are you doing to help the poor survive? moondog - 04/04/2013 12:58:49 AM 966 Views
A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:15:32 AM 869 Views
Re: A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... moondog - 04/04/2013 06:42:00 PM 1004 Views
Perhaps its time to try a little fact checking. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:34:44 AM 1141 Views
I'm happy you agree with me, liberalism has failed and it's time for something different. Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 03:47:17 AM 840 Views
Oh the cleverness of you. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:52:07 AM 1026 Views
Wow, I'm shocked. Yes, let's stick with the failed status quo. Good plan! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:17:32 AM 792 Views
Who said anything about the status quo? I just said I didn't agree with your solution. *NM* heartbreak - 04/04/2013 04:19:37 AM 510 Views
Then time to step up, what's your idea? Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:22:58 AM 788 Views
As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" heartbreak - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM 1036 Views
How typicaly conservative! And no. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 02:05:00 PM 834 Views
Variaitons of this plan have been tried elsewhere with lesser or negligible resistance Isaac - 04/04/2013 03:31:22 PM 927 Views
Agreed and this is how we will finance such a move Roland00 - 04/04/2013 04:01:46 AM 930 Views
I'm glad you agree! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:21:25 AM 857 Views
No, in Europe, liberalism is generally successful Sports_Gambler - 04/04/2013 06:15:34 AM 852 Views
Liberalism & Conservatism 'officially fail' about ever other year I've noticed, still around though *NM* Isaac - 04/04/2013 09:02:42 AM 416 Views
Yes. I wonder if there will ever be an age of fiscally responsible/conservative liberals. Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:41:09 AM 917 Views
I guess it depends on how you define the terms Isaac - 05/04/2013 08:52:25 AM 1084 Views
*nod* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 01:30:47 PM 910 Views
Re: *nod* Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:12:17 PM 845 Views
Off topic: are you gardening yet? Avendesora - 05/04/2013 02:25:06 PM 765 Views
Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:21:25 PM 748 Views
Re: Initial stuff moondog - 05/04/2013 07:10:57 PM 833 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 08:19:16 PM 891 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:21:56 PM 884 Views
I didn't know they make LED grow lights! Avendesora - 06/04/2013 12:18:25 AM 1016 Views
It's a bit newer because of the price, that's been dropping Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:20:10 AM 921 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:11:12 PM 1017 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 07:56:47 PM 917 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 12:36:10 AM 1053 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 06/04/2013 02:01:59 AM 955 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 03:19:39 AM 806 Views
Yes, the logical step is to go for Nordic style socialism. jh - 04/04/2013 03:19:17 PM 910 Views
well that and a tiny homogenous population funded by large oil reserves random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:57:51 PM 858 Views
Eh, you're describing norway. jh - 04/04/2013 08:11:25 PM 813 Views
The Economist (of all people) was singing the praises of the Nordic countries recently. Legolas - 04/04/2013 08:49:36 PM 877 Views
Hey, guess what? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:55:59 PM 820 Views
Awesome. Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:22:13 PM 747 Views
Oh my gosh! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:27:17 PM 763 Views
Yes! Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:33:45 PM 799 Views
Yay! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:37:40 PM 860 Views
We're Maryland, actually, as I recall. Legolas - 04/04/2013 10:15:49 PM 800 Views
You need to vist Dallas or LA and tell me what qualifes for a large immigrant population random thoughts - 05/04/2013 03:23:13 AM 814 Views
Eh survival of the fittest Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 06:18:52 PM 940 Views
Excuse me? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:42:24 PM 848 Views
Cry me a river Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 08:55:40 PM 880 Views
Funny. nossy - 04/04/2013 09:18:15 PM 868 Views
Re: Funny. Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:19:35 PM 874 Views
good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit moondog - 04/04/2013 10:38:45 PM 880 Views
Re: good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:49:14 PM 893 Views
Wow. nossy - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM 864 Views
Re: Wow. Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 12:18:08 AM 993 Views
congrats on being part of the problem.... *NM* moondog - 05/04/2013 04:48:58 AM 475 Views
It's pointless to argue with those who don't understand the psychology of generational poverty. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:43:40 AM 427 Views
Clearly. *NM* nossy - 05/04/2013 07:32:21 PM 393 Views
Oh the "it's nobody's fault excuse" Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 08:56:51 PM 820 Views
Get back to me when you know wtf you're talking about. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 09:03:08 PM 425 Views
I'm back *NM* Nighthawk - 06/04/2013 01:40:47 AM 397 Views
You're over-generalizing a bit Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:49:02 AM 958 Views
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