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Excuse me? nossy Send a noteboard - 04/04/2013 08:42:24 PM

Don't be poor? I guess inflation will just stay down when everyone is rich?


View original postDon't want to be poor? Then don't be poor. Get an education. Apply yourself. Work hard. Don't live beyond your means. Don't have children you can't afford. You get the point. I refuse to feel sorry for people who refuse to help themselves.

Don't be born with any sort of handicap? Don't accidentally get sick and end up with a $5000 hospital bill that will throw you in to debt for 10 years (if you ever manage to get out of it), don't make a mistake or be raped ... Are any of those rare?

Your post is severely dismissive of the fact that there are many people out there who aren't like you. That is the one American thing that does really piss me off - four out of my five best friends are teachers, and they will tell you who the 2 or 3 kids are in the class who will have a HUGE struggle to ever be more than a fast food worker (or similar). It's completely shitty to assume that everyone is on an even playing field or has never made any sort of mistake that they may need help to crawl out from under. Or, if they are/have, they automatically deserve to be treated like they just haven't tried hard enough. No wonder so many people are on medication.

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Liberalism has officially failed - Poverty reaches 1960 levels - Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:33:15 AM 1373 Views
As has Conservatism. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 12:37:23 AM 832 Views
I know it hurts.....but the truth about liberalism will set you free! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:42:57 AM 952 Views
That's a flawed analogy these days, since conservative policies are anti-education spending. Burr - 04/04/2013 01:24:22 AM 966 Views
Have you ever tried to fish when really hungry? Dannymac - 04/04/2013 06:32:17 AM 884 Views
HA! HA! In your dreams that's how liberalism works. How about..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:59:33 PM 813 Views
and lo, Jesus said unto the poor gathered to him: "begone freeloaders! the wealthy need more money" moondog - 04/04/2013 06:43:32 PM 913 Views
Interestingly enough.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:20:06 PM 904 Views
Re: Interestingly enough.... nossy - 04/04/2013 09:31:27 PM 891 Views
Well here is where theology gets fun.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:48:50 PM 924 Views
The entire post...as well as many of the sub-threads....prompts the question of: Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:39:16 PM 933 Views
it depends on what your definition of "succeed" is i guess.... moondog - 04/04/2013 10:27:30 PM 979 Views
And that is certainly your opinion.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 10:54:08 PM 978 Views
Re: And that is certainly your opinion.... moondog - 04/04/2013 11:57:34 PM 1048 Views
Hmm good questions Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:29:45 PM 964 Views
you contradicted yourself moondog - 04/04/2013 10:44:47 PM 871 Views
Re: you contradicted yourself Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:54:35 PM 982 Views
i think i understand where you're coming from.... moondog - 05/04/2013 07:33:32 PM 945 Views
I see the problem random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:45:53 PM 902 Views
since you don't trust the gov't, what are you doing to help the poor survive? moondog - 04/04/2013 12:58:49 AM 978 Views
A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:15:32 AM 875 Views
Re: A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... moondog - 04/04/2013 06:42:00 PM 1010 Views
Perhaps its time to try a little fact checking. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:34:44 AM 1151 Views
I'm happy you agree with me, liberalism has failed and it's time for something different. Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 03:47:17 AM 851 Views
Oh the cleverness of you. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:52:07 AM 1038 Views
Wow, I'm shocked. Yes, let's stick with the failed status quo. Good plan! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:17:32 AM 801 Views
Who said anything about the status quo? I just said I didn't agree with your solution. *NM* heartbreak - 04/04/2013 04:19:37 AM 522 Views
Then time to step up, what's your idea? Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:22:58 AM 796 Views
As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" heartbreak - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM 1046 Views
How typicaly conservative! And no. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 02:05:00 PM 838 Views
Variaitons of this plan have been tried elsewhere with lesser or negligible resistance Isaac - 04/04/2013 03:31:22 PM 933 Views
Agreed and this is how we will finance such a move Roland00 - 04/04/2013 04:01:46 AM 937 Views
I'm glad you agree! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:21:25 AM 861 Views
No, in Europe, liberalism is generally successful Sports_Gambler - 04/04/2013 06:15:34 AM 857 Views
Liberalism & Conservatism 'officially fail' about ever other year I've noticed, still around though *NM* Isaac - 04/04/2013 09:02:42 AM 422 Views
Yes. I wonder if there will ever be an age of fiscally responsible/conservative liberals. Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:41:09 AM 923 Views
I guess it depends on how you define the terms Isaac - 05/04/2013 08:52:25 AM 1091 Views
*nod* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 01:30:47 PM 917 Views
Re: *nod* Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:12:17 PM 861 Views
Off topic: are you gardening yet? Avendesora - 05/04/2013 02:25:06 PM 774 Views
Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:21:25 PM 757 Views
Re: Initial stuff moondog - 05/04/2013 07:10:57 PM 840 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 08:19:16 PM 897 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:21:56 PM 892 Views
I didn't know they make LED grow lights! Avendesora - 06/04/2013 12:18:25 AM 1020 Views
It's a bit newer because of the price, that's been dropping Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:20:10 AM 929 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:11:12 PM 1026 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 07:56:47 PM 924 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 12:36:10 AM 1061 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 06/04/2013 02:01:59 AM 961 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 03:19:39 AM 817 Views
Yes, the logical step is to go for Nordic style socialism. jh - 04/04/2013 03:19:17 PM 918 Views
well that and a tiny homogenous population funded by large oil reserves random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:57:51 PM 864 Views
Eh, you're describing norway. jh - 04/04/2013 08:11:25 PM 821 Views
The Economist (of all people) was singing the praises of the Nordic countries recently. Legolas - 04/04/2013 08:49:36 PM 883 Views
Hey, guess what? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:55:59 PM 826 Views
Awesome. Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:22:13 PM 753 Views
Oh my gosh! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:27:17 PM 771 Views
Yes! Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:33:45 PM 806 Views
Yay! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:37:40 PM 870 Views
We're Maryland, actually, as I recall. Legolas - 04/04/2013 10:15:49 PM 808 Views
You need to vist Dallas or LA and tell me what qualifes for a large immigrant population random thoughts - 05/04/2013 03:23:13 AM 821 Views
Eh survival of the fittest Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 06:18:52 PM 947 Views
Excuse me? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:42:24 PM 853 Views
Cry me a river Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 08:55:40 PM 884 Views
Funny. nossy - 04/04/2013 09:18:15 PM 874 Views
Re: Funny. Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:19:35 PM 879 Views
good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit moondog - 04/04/2013 10:38:45 PM 887 Views
Re: good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:49:14 PM 902 Views
Wow. nossy - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM 871 Views
Re: Wow. Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 12:18:08 AM 998 Views
congrats on being part of the problem.... *NM* moondog - 05/04/2013 04:48:58 AM 478 Views
It's pointless to argue with those who don't understand the psychology of generational poverty. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:43:40 AM 432 Views
Clearly. *NM* nossy - 05/04/2013 07:32:21 PM 398 Views
Oh the "it's nobody's fault excuse" Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 08:56:51 PM 828 Views
Get back to me when you know wtf you're talking about. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 09:03:08 PM 430 Views
I'm back *NM* Nighthawk - 06/04/2013 01:40:47 AM 401 Views
You're over-generalizing a bit Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:49:02 AM 965 Views
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