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Wow. nossy Send a noteboard - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM

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You chose the wrong profession if you wanted to make money. It was something to do with landscaping right? You probably chose it because you love it. But if not struggling and not being poor was your goal, you would have chosen a better profession. You are very smart and very pretty, a very good combination to have. I know you could easily make money if that's what you wanted!

Um. Well, I appreciate the compliment, but you basically just told me I could manipulate people by using my looks. Why is that better than making less money in an honest way? Is it just about making what you can, regardless? Most Americans in my generation started out by being told they could be whatever they want, and that they should go for it. I like landscaping, but I have to now - I was on the other side of many school loans before I realized that it wasn't a magical world of wonders just because I had a degree. Again, I am NOT saying that people should never make changes or should never try something else - I'm just saying that you don't know how or why things happen, and there isn't some express ticket out - like being a pretty girl.
View original postMaybe you should read the plethora of studies that show attractive people get paid more and get more promotions. Go on, I'll wait.

Those people are probably willing to wiggle the bootie and/or throw around the smiles a little more often. I am not. In fact, I am the opposite. If I make something of myself, it is going to be by my talent.
View original postYes, actually, I do want a cookie. I'm on a diet and I've been jonesing for a cookie. People on foodstamps have made poor choices in life or they wouldn't be on foodstamps. The path to success begins with making smart choices. You have no room to complain if your choices led you to where you are. I would work 3 jobs before getting on fucking foodstamps.

You can work 3 jobs, presumably. What about the mother of three kids whose husband left her for the "pretty girl?" Does she deserve no help if she hits bottom and goes looking for it? Do her children deserve to suffer because of those "poor choices?" And again, is this rare?
View original postPeople take care of their children all the time, where did they get the money for that? And I have absolutely no sympathy for homeless people. They can't be redeemed. Ther are a blight on society.

And some people can take care of their kids by buying ramen noodles and clothes from walmart. Others have tens of thousands of dollars in hospital bills because of the handicapped individual they have given up their job to protect.

~Sigh~ You have no idea why any given individual is homeless. If we ... what? Started killing off people with mental illness, we'd be short a lot of people who turned out to be geniuses.


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View original postYes, anybody can do it! That's the point! But when know they have a safety net, they don't try so hard.

That is not true. Why did you try so hard? Why did I? What were we thinking about the safety net at that point?
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Liberalism has officially failed - Poverty reaches 1960 levels - Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:33:15 AM 1369 Views
As has Conservatism. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 12:37:23 AM 824 Views
I know it hurts.....but the truth about liberalism will set you free! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:42:57 AM 946 Views
That's a flawed analogy these days, since conservative policies are anti-education spending. Burr - 04/04/2013 01:24:22 AM 960 Views
Have you ever tried to fish when really hungry? Dannymac - 04/04/2013 06:32:17 AM 880 Views
HA! HA! In your dreams that's how liberalism works. How about..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:59:33 PM 807 Views
and lo, Jesus said unto the poor gathered to him: "begone freeloaders! the wealthy need more money" moondog - 04/04/2013 06:43:32 PM 906 Views
Interestingly enough.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:20:06 PM 900 Views
Re: Interestingly enough.... nossy - 04/04/2013 09:31:27 PM 886 Views
Well here is where theology gets fun.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:48:50 PM 918 Views
The entire post...as well as many of the sub-threads....prompts the question of: Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:39:16 PM 920 Views
it depends on what your definition of "succeed" is i guess.... moondog - 04/04/2013 10:27:30 PM 971 Views
And that is certainly your opinion.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 10:54:08 PM 969 Views
Re: And that is certainly your opinion.... moondog - 04/04/2013 11:57:34 PM 1043 Views
Hmm good questions Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:29:45 PM 957 Views
you contradicted yourself moondog - 04/04/2013 10:44:47 PM 854 Views
Re: you contradicted yourself Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:54:35 PM 973 Views
i think i understand where you're coming from.... moondog - 05/04/2013 07:33:32 PM 941 Views
I see the problem random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:45:53 PM 893 Views
since you don't trust the gov't, what are you doing to help the poor survive? moondog - 04/04/2013 12:58:49 AM 967 Views
A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:15:32 AM 869 Views
Re: A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... moondog - 04/04/2013 06:42:00 PM 1004 Views
Perhaps its time to try a little fact checking. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:34:44 AM 1142 Views
I'm happy you agree with me, liberalism has failed and it's time for something different. Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 03:47:17 AM 841 Views
Oh the cleverness of you. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:52:07 AM 1026 Views
Wow, I'm shocked. Yes, let's stick with the failed status quo. Good plan! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:17:32 AM 793 Views
Who said anything about the status quo? I just said I didn't agree with your solution. *NM* heartbreak - 04/04/2013 04:19:37 AM 510 Views
Then time to step up, what's your idea? Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:22:58 AM 789 Views
As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" heartbreak - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM 1036 Views
How typicaly conservative! And no. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 02:05:00 PM 835 Views
Variaitons of this plan have been tried elsewhere with lesser or negligible resistance Isaac - 04/04/2013 03:31:22 PM 928 Views
Agreed and this is how we will finance such a move Roland00 - 04/04/2013 04:01:46 AM 930 Views
I'm glad you agree! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:21:25 AM 857 Views
No, in Europe, liberalism is generally successful Sports_Gambler - 04/04/2013 06:15:34 AM 853 Views
Liberalism & Conservatism 'officially fail' about ever other year I've noticed, still around though *NM* Isaac - 04/04/2013 09:02:42 AM 416 Views
Yes. I wonder if there will ever be an age of fiscally responsible/conservative liberals. Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:41:09 AM 918 Views
I guess it depends on how you define the terms Isaac - 05/04/2013 08:52:25 AM 1084 Views
*nod* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 01:30:47 PM 910 Views
Re: *nod* Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:12:17 PM 846 Views
Off topic: are you gardening yet? Avendesora - 05/04/2013 02:25:06 PM 766 Views
Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:21:25 PM 749 Views
Re: Initial stuff moondog - 05/04/2013 07:10:57 PM 834 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 08:19:16 PM 891 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:21:56 PM 884 Views
I didn't know they make LED grow lights! Avendesora - 06/04/2013 12:18:25 AM 1016 Views
It's a bit newer because of the price, that's been dropping Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:20:10 AM 922 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:11:12 PM 1018 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 07:56:47 PM 918 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 12:36:10 AM 1053 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 06/04/2013 02:01:59 AM 955 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 03:19:39 AM 807 Views
Yes, the logical step is to go for Nordic style socialism. jh - 04/04/2013 03:19:17 PM 911 Views
well that and a tiny homogenous population funded by large oil reserves random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:57:51 PM 858 Views
Eh, you're describing norway. jh - 04/04/2013 08:11:25 PM 814 Views
The Economist (of all people) was singing the praises of the Nordic countries recently. Legolas - 04/04/2013 08:49:36 PM 877 Views
Hey, guess what? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:55:59 PM 821 Views
Awesome. Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:22:13 PM 748 Views
Oh my gosh! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:27:17 PM 764 Views
Yes! Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:33:45 PM 800 Views
Yay! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:37:40 PM 861 Views
We're Maryland, actually, as I recall. Legolas - 04/04/2013 10:15:49 PM 801 Views
You need to vist Dallas or LA and tell me what qualifes for a large immigrant population random thoughts - 05/04/2013 03:23:13 AM 815 Views
Eh survival of the fittest Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 06:18:52 PM 941 Views
Excuse me? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:42:24 PM 848 Views
Cry me a river Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 08:55:40 PM 881 Views
Funny. nossy - 04/04/2013 09:18:15 PM 869 Views
Re: Funny. Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:19:35 PM 874 Views
good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit moondog - 04/04/2013 10:38:45 PM 880 Views
Re: good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:49:14 PM 894 Views
Wow. nossy - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM 865 Views
Re: Wow. Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 12:18:08 AM 993 Views
congrats on being part of the problem.... *NM* moondog - 05/04/2013 04:48:58 AM 475 Views
It's pointless to argue with those who don't understand the psychology of generational poverty. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:43:40 AM 427 Views
Clearly. *NM* nossy - 05/04/2013 07:32:21 PM 393 Views
Oh the "it's nobody's fault excuse" Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 08:56:51 PM 820 Views
Get back to me when you know wtf you're talking about. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 09:03:08 PM 425 Views
I'm back *NM* Nighthawk - 06/04/2013 01:40:47 AM 397 Views
You're over-generalizing a bit Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:49:02 AM 958 Views
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