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i think i understand where you're coming from.... moondog Send a noteboard - 05/04/2013 07:33:32 PM

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which is it? do people with children get your sympathy or do they just fuck off and die like you suggest? or is it that you have sympathy but you just don't care enough to do anything about it? or, is it that there are specific people with children you are willing to help but other people's children can all starve to death?

None of the above. I have sympathy for children, not their parents. I would help a child, not their parents. Get it?


you would help a child, but you don't want to provide money to see they get help from anyone or anything else. and let's not help the parents raise those children, because that might encourage the kids to grow up well rather than in poverty. i think that about sums it up?

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Liberalism has officially failed - Poverty reaches 1960 levels - Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:33:15 AM 1223 Views
As has Conservatism. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 12:37:23 AM 722 Views
I know it hurts.....but the truth about liberalism will set you free! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:42:57 AM 838 Views
That's a flawed analogy these days, since conservative policies are anti-education spending. Burr - 04/04/2013 01:24:22 AM 830 Views
Have you ever tried to fish when really hungry? Dannymac - 04/04/2013 06:32:17 AM 748 Views
HA! HA! In your dreams that's how liberalism works. How about..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:59:33 PM 690 Views
and lo, Jesus said unto the poor gathered to him: "begone freeloaders! the wealthy need more money" moondog - 04/04/2013 06:43:32 PM 798 Views
Interestingly enough.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:20:06 PM 743 Views
Re: Interestingly enough.... nossy - 04/04/2013 09:31:27 PM 754 Views
Well here is where theology gets fun.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:48:50 PM 798 Views
The entire post...as well as many of the sub-threads....prompts the question of: Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:39:16 PM 803 Views
it depends on what your definition of "succeed" is i guess.... moondog - 04/04/2013 10:27:30 PM 853 Views
And that is certainly your opinion.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 10:54:08 PM 849 Views
Re: And that is certainly your opinion.... moondog - 04/04/2013 11:57:34 PM 923 Views
Hmm good questions Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:29:45 PM 838 Views
you contradicted yourself moondog - 04/04/2013 10:44:47 PM 746 Views
Re: you contradicted yourself Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:54:35 PM 828 Views
i think i understand where you're coming from.... moondog - 05/04/2013 07:33:32 PM 804 Views
I see the problem random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:45:53 PM 752 Views
since you don't trust the gov't, what are you doing to help the poor survive? moondog - 04/04/2013 12:58:49 AM 843 Views
A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:15:32 AM 731 Views
Re: A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... moondog - 04/04/2013 06:42:00 PM 858 Views
Perhaps its time to try a little fact checking. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:34:44 AM 1015 Views
I'm happy you agree with me, liberalism has failed and it's time for something different. Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 03:47:17 AM 724 Views
Oh the cleverness of you. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:52:07 AM 892 Views
Wow, I'm shocked. Yes, let's stick with the failed status quo. Good plan! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:17:32 AM 676 Views
Who said anything about the status quo? I just said I didn't agree with your solution. *NM* heartbreak - 04/04/2013 04:19:37 AM 448 Views
Then time to step up, what's your idea? Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:22:58 AM 672 Views
As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" heartbreak - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM 892 Views
How typicaly conservative! And no. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 02:05:00 PM 712 Views
Variaitons of this plan have been tried elsewhere with lesser or negligible resistance Isaac - 04/04/2013 03:31:22 PM 805 Views
Agreed and this is how we will finance such a move Roland00 - 04/04/2013 04:01:46 AM 796 Views
I'm glad you agree! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:21:25 AM 746 Views
No, in Europe, liberalism is generally successful Sports_Gambler - 04/04/2013 06:15:34 AM 730 Views
Liberalism & Conservatism 'officially fail' about ever other year I've noticed, still around though *NM* Isaac - 04/04/2013 09:02:42 AM 355 Views
Yes. I wonder if there will ever be an age of fiscally responsible/conservative liberals. Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:41:09 AM 797 Views
I guess it depends on how you define the terms Isaac - 05/04/2013 08:52:25 AM 952 Views
*nod* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 01:30:47 PM 794 Views
Re: *nod* Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:12:17 PM 710 Views
Off topic: are you gardening yet? Avendesora - 05/04/2013 02:25:06 PM 644 Views
Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:21:25 PM 636 Views
Re: Initial stuff moondog - 05/04/2013 07:10:57 PM 710 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 08:19:16 PM 772 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:21:56 PM 780 Views
I didn't know they make LED grow lights! Avendesora - 06/04/2013 12:18:25 AM 908 Views
It's a bit newer because of the price, that's been dropping Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:20:10 AM 787 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:11:12 PM 898 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 07:56:47 PM 779 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 12:36:10 AM 923 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 06/04/2013 02:01:59 AM 828 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 03:19:39 AM 661 Views
Yes, the logical step is to go for Nordic style socialism. jh - 04/04/2013 03:19:17 PM 775 Views
well that and a tiny homogenous population funded by large oil reserves random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:57:51 PM 747 Views
Eh, you're describing norway. jh - 04/04/2013 08:11:25 PM 706 Views
The Economist (of all people) was singing the praises of the Nordic countries recently. Legolas - 04/04/2013 08:49:36 PM 758 Views
Hey, guess what? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:55:59 PM 715 Views
Awesome. Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:22:13 PM 628 Views
Oh my gosh! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:27:17 PM 656 Views
Yes! Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:33:45 PM 685 Views
Yay! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:37:40 PM 719 Views
We're Maryland, actually, as I recall. Legolas - 04/04/2013 10:15:49 PM 676 Views
You need to vist Dallas or LA and tell me what qualifes for a large immigrant population random thoughts - 05/04/2013 03:23:13 AM 705 Views
Eh survival of the fittest Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 06:18:52 PM 815 Views
Excuse me? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:42:24 PM 730 Views
Cry me a river Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 08:55:40 PM 754 Views
Funny. nossy - 04/04/2013 09:18:15 PM 750 Views
Re: Funny. Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:19:35 PM 757 Views
good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit moondog - 04/04/2013 10:38:45 PM 765 Views
Re: good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:49:14 PM 742 Views
Wow. nossy - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM 759 Views
Re: Wow. Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 12:18:08 AM 861 Views
congrats on being part of the problem.... *NM* moondog - 05/04/2013 04:48:58 AM 388 Views
It's pointless to argue with those who don't understand the psychology of generational poverty. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:43:40 AM 376 Views
Clearly. *NM* nossy - 05/04/2013 07:32:21 PM 337 Views
Oh the "it's nobody's fault excuse" Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 08:56:51 PM 714 Views
Get back to me when you know wtf you're talking about. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 09:03:08 PM 368 Views
I'm back *NM* Nighthawk - 06/04/2013 01:40:47 AM 350 Views
You're over-generalizing a bit Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:49:02 AM 834 Views
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