That is a very good point, too, one that had never occurred to me.
Joel Send a noteboard - 13/08/2013 06:57:34 PM
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This is actually fairly coherent and similar to what I believe.
This is actually fairly coherent and similar to what I believe.
I'd like to add that, on the subject of fetuses/persons/not-persons, we kill all the time, for our own benefit, creatures of much higher mental and emotional capacities than a fetus. So, on the one hand, if you can condone killing a cow you can probably also condone killing a fetus, and on the other, it seems puzzling that pro-life and vegetarianism don't ever align.
Regardless of how one feels about each issue separately, it is another case where advocating one without the other is contradictory, or at least inconsistent. The standard response, of course, is that pro-lifers are only concerned with HUMAN life, but, ultimately, that attitude is somewhat arbitrary, even cavalier. If we accept or even demand various exceptions to a standard whenever convenient it is not much of a standard.
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I don't understand many things about Conservatives but one thing baffles me more than most.
- 12/08/2013 05:39:06 AM
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I think you're confusing "pro life" with "anti killing."
- 12/08/2013 07:34:14 AM
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So abortion is OK to save a pregnant womans life then?
- 13/08/2013 03:35:58 AM
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It sounds like you have a very specific view of what each position constitutes.
- 13/08/2013 05:20:29 AM
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Just going by party platforms, candidate/officeholder statements and proposed/enacted law.
- 13/08/2013 07:58:49 AM
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Re: It sounds like you have a very specific view of what each position constitutes.
- 14/08/2013 01:17:09 PM
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For what it is worth, you and I are not so far apart on abortion.
- 14/08/2013 03:22:07 PM
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Re: So abortion is OK to save a pregnant womans life then?
- 14/08/2013 12:50:07 PM
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"Love your brother as you love yourself" is about self-improvement?
- 14/08/2013 02:02:22 PM
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Conversely, how can liberals be pro-abortion but anti-death penalty?
- 12/08/2013 12:28:24 PM
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In my case, because of the areas certainty exists and those where it is impossible.
- 13/08/2013 04:14:15 AM
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Re: In my case, because of the areas certainty exists and those where it is impossible.
- 13/08/2013 02:01:51 PM
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That is a very good point, too, one that had never occurred to me.
- 13/08/2013 06:57:34 PM
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I'm baffled you find it bizarre honestly
- 12/08/2013 04:14:01 PM
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So abortion is OK to save a pregnant womans life? Prevent her maiming? A childs lifelong torment?
- 13/08/2013 05:00:06 AM
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Joel, I'm going to strongly suggest you don't try to discuss anything political with me
- 13/08/2013 06:31:02 AM
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"...all of this operates on a principle that says that you do not take life without a good cause..."
- 13/08/2013 08:10:28 AM
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You are still missing the point, but at least you're trying
- 13/08/2013 06:48:34 PM
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Abortion is "not germane" to asking how one can reconcile opposing abortion while supporting guns?
- 14/08/2013 12:48:21 AM
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Discussing Supreme Court rulings on abortion in detail is not *NM*
- 14/08/2013 05:08:06 AM
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Not in detail, just in both citing "good cause," yet interpreting it VERY differently.
- 14/08/2013 05:43:50 AM
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This is mostly a US Christian Conservative obsession...not conservatism in general. *NM*
- 12/08/2013 04:39:15 PM
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Keep me, O Lord, from the hands of the wicked, preserve me from the violent man
- 13/08/2013 03:20:24 PM
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My biggest problem with that from a religious perspective is preempting the chance to repent.
- 14/08/2013 01:39:57 AM
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in addition...
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