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GOP Rep. on the shutdowns future: "You really have to call Cruz, I'm not even joking about that." Joel Send a noteboard - 05/10/2013 03:59:01 PM

"That's really what you have to do, because he's the one that set up the strategy, he's the one that got us into this mess, and so we've got to know what the next move is."—Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA), quoted by the New York Times, when asked what Republicans were going to do next in the budget standoff.

Now, either Grover Norquist and GOP Congressmen have become "liberal media," or this is a GOP baby and no one else should rock it.


View original postSorry but that argument lacks anything even resembling support. They were exempt but it is an outpatient surgical procedure and now it isn't exempt.

So every clinic doing outpatient surgery was NOT required to have doctors with hospital admitting privileges; glad we have consensus there.
View original postI assume that at some point a court will rule on this and the fact that in some rural areas they can not find hospitals that will given them privileges will allow them to be exempt but that really doesn't change the fact that her entire performance and that of her supporters was to interfere with the governments ability to conduct business and the left think she is the second coming. It is OK to be hypocrite but the self denial is unhealthy.

The State of Texas conducted business as it always had, without missing a beat. It did not send any state workers home without pay, end state payments and services to veterans or infant children, nor close any (let alone all) state offices and grounds. Wendy Davis did not shutdown government, but the US federal government is undeniably shut down. Screaming "government is the problem" for 30+ years precludes Republicans blaming that on ANYONE else. Personal responsibility: Getting government out of peoples lives is not just a GOP platform plank, but its LYNCHPIN; the party must own up to that.
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President Obama should not negotiate with terrorists moondog - 24/09/2013 06:09:59 PM 1221 Views
I assume the purpose of this post was ranting and provoking heated reactions for your amusement? Legolas - 24/09/2013 08:16:14 PM 687 Views
I assumed that was the point of the post. Tom - 24/09/2013 08:25:16 PM 564 Views
As would I, that's for sure. Legolas - 24/09/2013 08:44:31 PM 687 Views
There is a viral FB post out there Tom - 24/09/2013 09:16:22 PM 628 Views
Is there any chance of that happening? MonCul - 26/09/2013 07:21:51 PM 601 Views
I also just found this surprisingly good related op-ed piece by, of all people, Ted Cruz. Legolas - 24/09/2013 08:31:03 PM 658 Views
consider this my swan song moondog - 24/09/2013 09:39:02 PM 645 Views
To be fair, they only have a terrorist ATTITUDE; the GOP coup attempt has been non-violent. Joel - 27/09/2013 03:28:48 PM 642 Views
only the far left would call this a coup random thoughts - 28/09/2013 04:13:18 PM 687 Views
A minority of a minority forcing its will on the majority in defiance of rule of law is a coup. Joel - 28/09/2013 11:17:43 PM 584 Views
gross accumulation of wealth of real problem I am just not sure how you find a solution random thoughts - 28/09/2013 04:21:37 PM 524 Views
That doesn't happen that easily. Legolas - 28/09/2013 10:31:40 PM 610 Views
I agree in theory but in practice it is a lot harder random thoughts - 30/09/2013 03:20:14 PM 584 Views
The Affordable Care Act has nothing to do with affordability. ranagrande - 24/09/2013 08:46:15 PM 697 Views
I remember people complaining when their patriotism was questioned, thought they had a valid beef... Isaac - 25/09/2013 05:57:52 AM 596 Views
i'm sorry your party has gone off the deep end and can't tell reality from their ass moondog - 27/09/2013 05:24:52 PM 589 Views
Yeah, they're out of touch with reality, Mr. Peaceful Protest = terrorism, sure, gotcha Isaac - 28/09/2013 01:41:55 AM 669 Views
Re: Yeah, they're out of touch with reality, Mr. Peaceful Protest = terrorism, sure, gotcha everynametaken - 29/09/2013 03:51:06 AM 593 Views
fucking over millions of people's lives is NOT "peaceful protest" moondog - 01/10/2013 09:04:30 PM 693 Views
I agree. The ACA is akin to domestic terrorism because it is fucking over millions of peoples' lives Tom - 01/10/2013 10:00:59 PM 829 Views
just because you won't benefit doesn't mean it isn't helping moondog - 01/10/2013 11:27:10 PM 557 Views
Oh, please. Cut the fucking hyperbole. Tom - 02/10/2013 02:54:31 AM 575 Views
It isn't hypberbole tyo him it is his reality random thoughts - 02/10/2013 03:47:30 AM 544 Views
I was with you until you engaged in your own hyperbole in that last line. *NM* Legolas - 02/10/2013 06:05:12 PM 328 Views
I thought it was more of simple observation random thoughts - 04/10/2013 02:21:32 AM 491 Views
Bringing up the Nazis or other totalitarian regimes hardly counts as "simple observation". Legolas - 04/10/2013 06:40:16 PM 599 Views
the far right scares me as much if not more than the far left random thoughts - 05/10/2013 05:21:22 AM 605 Views
You have an amazingly cherry-picked view of the world don't you? Peaceful protests often hurt people Isaac - 01/10/2013 10:20:43 PM 543 Views
yeah, you keep believing that. i suppose black is now white as well? moondog - 01/10/2013 11:28:58 PM 583 Views
If you insist on seeing everything as black and white it really doesn't matter which is which Isaac - 02/10/2013 12:07:51 AM 507 Views
I had hoped gban007 - 02/10/2013 08:43:58 AM 604 Views
Re: I had hoped Isaac - 02/10/2013 10:48:13 AM 547 Views
Re: I had hoped gban007 - 02/10/2013 11:35:04 AM 589 Views
Re: I had hoped Isaac - 02/10/2013 12:07:34 PM 584 Views
Congress is given teh power of the purse so it is the left who is threatening a shut down random thoughts - 26/09/2013 12:59:20 PM 554 Views
Both right and wrong. Bored - 26/09/2013 04:55:36 PM 534 Views
sorry but that doesn't change the power of the purse random thoughts - 28/09/2013 04:06:53 PM 671 Views
Pretty much my take for the last two years; the GOP is pulling an Arafat: "95% is not good enough!" Joel - 27/09/2013 01:12:53 AM 679 Views
funny how the media celibrated the silly twit from Fort Worth for doing basically the same thing *NM* random thoughts - 28/09/2013 04:19:31 PM 344 Views
Yes, opposing an effective statewide ban on ALL abortion (for ALL reasons) is extremist Joel - 28/09/2013 11:22:32 PM 535 Views
you would have a point if you posistion approached reality instead of being extermist blather random thoughts - 30/09/2013 01:58:13 PM 546 Views
So all TX outpatient clinics must meet the standards set for hospitals? Joel - 30/09/2013 11:00:24 PM 515 Views
no all TX abortion clince have to meet the same standards as outpatient surgical centers. random thoughts - 30/09/2013 11:29:48 PM 506 Views
"... mandate[s]... a doctor who performs abortions have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital." Joel - 02/10/2013 01:54:41 AM 705 Views
You miss a lot of points random thoughts - 02/10/2013 03:37:00 AM 547 Views
Like where Wendy Davis threatened to shut down TX unless she got her way. Joel - 02/10/2013 06:49:52 AM 604 Views
Like I said you support grandstanding as long as it is your side doing it random thoughts - 04/10/2013 02:20:09 AM 540 Views
Neither shut down government? Sorry; I did not realize the US government was and has been open. Joel - 05/10/2013 12:49:50 AM 646 Views
I guess you also didn't realize Cruz is a senator. Unless of courrse you blame the senate? random thoughts - 05/10/2013 05:16:01 AM 568 Views
GOP Rep. on the shutdowns future: "You really have to call Cruz, I'm not even joking about that." Joel - 05/10/2013 03:59:01 PM 726 Views
Joel do youeven understand what you say? random thoughts - 06/10/2013 04:09:50 PM 573 Views
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