Active Users:212 Time:18/05/2024 10:22:09 AM
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules
A minority of a minority forcing its will on the majority in defiance of rule of law is a coup. Joel Send a noteboard - 28/09/2013 11:17:43 PM

View original post
I know it is hard to grasp but we didn't elect a king and there are still three branches of government and Congress is doing nothing more than exercising the power given to them by the Constitution. Elections matter and the republicans won a lot more of them in the last one so even if they don't control the Oval Office they do control spending. Sorry that reality is so hard to grasp for the Obama followers.

Yeah, there are three branches of government:

The Legislative, which passed Robamacare in 2009, the Executive, which signed it in 2009 and the Judicial, which ruled it constitutional in 2012.

A small faction of a minority is trying to bankrupt the nation just to overrule ALL THREE democratically chosen branches of government; sure sounds like a coup.

Elections matter? This is the platform Republicans ran and LOST on in 2012: Dems got 5 million more presidential votes, several million more Senate votes and even half a million more House votes. Obama was re-elected, Dems netted +2 Senate seats and even netted +30 House seats; only gerrymandering in the GOPs 2010 wave prevented Dems having the same majority in the House they have in the Senate. "We are not a majority even in our own party, and voters repudiated our plan in the last election; do it anyway—or else." Yeah, TOTALLY not a non-violent coup attempt.

Yet this is not even a case of the GOP House majority attempting something over objections of the Senates Dem majority: Not only Senate but HOUSE Republicans oppose shutting down government to repeal federal law. The GOP House Speaker has been taking fire from the Tea Party in both chambers essentially for opposing economic Armageddon as the cost of defunding Robamacare. I STILL would not be surprised if he just said, "To Hell with you idiots; I will go find a few dozen Dems to vote for a RATIONAL continuing resolution." We may well be watching the Tea Party commit high profile suicide however this ends.

Honorbound and honored to be Bonded to Mahtaliel Sedai
Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.

Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!

LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
This message last edited by Joel on 05/10/2013 at 11:45:10 PM
Reply to message
President Obama should not negotiate with terrorists moondog - 24/09/2013 06:09:59 PM 1221 Views
I assume the purpose of this post was ranting and provoking heated reactions for your amusement? Legolas - 24/09/2013 08:16:14 PM 687 Views
I assumed that was the point of the post. Tom - 24/09/2013 08:25:16 PM 564 Views
As would I, that's for sure. Legolas - 24/09/2013 08:44:31 PM 687 Views
There is a viral FB post out there Tom - 24/09/2013 09:16:22 PM 628 Views
Is there any chance of that happening? MonCul - 26/09/2013 07:21:51 PM 601 Views
I also just found this surprisingly good related op-ed piece by, of all people, Ted Cruz. Legolas - 24/09/2013 08:31:03 PM 658 Views
consider this my swan song moondog - 24/09/2013 09:39:02 PM 645 Views
To be fair, they only have a terrorist ATTITUDE; the GOP coup attempt has been non-violent. Joel - 27/09/2013 03:28:48 PM 642 Views
only the far left would call this a coup random thoughts - 28/09/2013 04:13:18 PM 687 Views
A minority of a minority forcing its will on the majority in defiance of rule of law is a coup. Joel - 28/09/2013 11:17:43 PM 585 Views
gross accumulation of wealth of real problem I am just not sure how you find a solution random thoughts - 28/09/2013 04:21:37 PM 524 Views
That doesn't happen that easily. Legolas - 28/09/2013 10:31:40 PM 610 Views
I agree in theory but in practice it is a lot harder random thoughts - 30/09/2013 03:20:14 PM 584 Views
The Affordable Care Act has nothing to do with affordability. ranagrande - 24/09/2013 08:46:15 PM 697 Views
I remember people complaining when their patriotism was questioned, thought they had a valid beef... Isaac - 25/09/2013 05:57:52 AM 596 Views
i'm sorry your party has gone off the deep end and can't tell reality from their ass moondog - 27/09/2013 05:24:52 PM 589 Views
Yeah, they're out of touch with reality, Mr. Peaceful Protest = terrorism, sure, gotcha Isaac - 28/09/2013 01:41:55 AM 669 Views
Re: Yeah, they're out of touch with reality, Mr. Peaceful Protest = terrorism, sure, gotcha everynametaken - 29/09/2013 03:51:06 AM 593 Views
fucking over millions of people's lives is NOT "peaceful protest" moondog - 01/10/2013 09:04:30 PM 693 Views
I agree. The ACA is akin to domestic terrorism because it is fucking over millions of peoples' lives Tom - 01/10/2013 10:00:59 PM 829 Views
just because you won't benefit doesn't mean it isn't helping moondog - 01/10/2013 11:27:10 PM 557 Views
Oh, please. Cut the fucking hyperbole. Tom - 02/10/2013 02:54:31 AM 575 Views
It isn't hypberbole tyo him it is his reality random thoughts - 02/10/2013 03:47:30 AM 544 Views
I was with you until you engaged in your own hyperbole in that last line. *NM* Legolas - 02/10/2013 06:05:12 PM 328 Views
I thought it was more of simple observation random thoughts - 04/10/2013 02:21:32 AM 491 Views
Bringing up the Nazis or other totalitarian regimes hardly counts as "simple observation". Legolas - 04/10/2013 06:40:16 PM 599 Views
the far right scares me as much if not more than the far left random thoughts - 05/10/2013 05:21:22 AM 605 Views
You have an amazingly cherry-picked view of the world don't you? Peaceful protests often hurt people Isaac - 01/10/2013 10:20:43 PM 543 Views
yeah, you keep believing that. i suppose black is now white as well? moondog - 01/10/2013 11:28:58 PM 583 Views
If you insist on seeing everything as black and white it really doesn't matter which is which Isaac - 02/10/2013 12:07:51 AM 507 Views
I had hoped gban007 - 02/10/2013 08:43:58 AM 604 Views
Re: I had hoped Isaac - 02/10/2013 10:48:13 AM 547 Views
Re: I had hoped gban007 - 02/10/2013 11:35:04 AM 589 Views
Re: I had hoped Isaac - 02/10/2013 12:07:34 PM 584 Views
Congress is given teh power of the purse so it is the left who is threatening a shut down random thoughts - 26/09/2013 12:59:20 PM 554 Views
Both right and wrong. Bored - 26/09/2013 04:55:36 PM 534 Views
sorry but that doesn't change the power of the purse random thoughts - 28/09/2013 04:06:53 PM 671 Views
Pretty much my take for the last two years; the GOP is pulling an Arafat: "95% is not good enough!" Joel - 27/09/2013 01:12:53 AM 679 Views
funny how the media celibrated the silly twit from Fort Worth for doing basically the same thing *NM* random thoughts - 28/09/2013 04:19:31 PM 344 Views
Yes, opposing an effective statewide ban on ALL abortion (for ALL reasons) is extremist Joel - 28/09/2013 11:22:32 PM 535 Views
you would have a point if you posistion approached reality instead of being extermist blather random thoughts - 30/09/2013 01:58:13 PM 546 Views
So all TX outpatient clinics must meet the standards set for hospitals? Joel - 30/09/2013 11:00:24 PM 515 Views
no all TX abortion clince have to meet the same standards as outpatient surgical centers. random thoughts - 30/09/2013 11:29:48 PM 506 Views
"... mandate[s]... a doctor who performs abortions have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital." Joel - 02/10/2013 01:54:41 AM 705 Views
You miss a lot of points random thoughts - 02/10/2013 03:37:00 AM 547 Views
Like where Wendy Davis threatened to shut down TX unless she got her way. Joel - 02/10/2013 06:49:52 AM 604 Views
Like I said you support grandstanding as long as it is your side doing it random thoughts - 04/10/2013 02:20:09 AM 540 Views
Neither shut down government? Sorry; I did not realize the US government was and has been open. Joel - 05/10/2013 12:49:50 AM 646 Views
I guess you also didn't realize Cruz is a senator. Unless of courrse you blame the senate? random thoughts - 05/10/2013 05:16:01 AM 568 Views
GOP Rep. on the shutdowns future: "You really have to call Cruz, I'm not even joking about that." Joel - 05/10/2013 03:59:01 PM 726 Views
Joel do youeven understand what you say? random thoughts - 06/10/2013 04:09:50 PM 573 Views
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules

Reply to Message

Block Quote Paragraph Quote
Formatting
Smiley Codes