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But look at what you're advocating for... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 06/05/2014 10:55:56 PM

the removal of something somewhere on the off-chance that someone in the future may be offended.

So the business close on Sunday. That is the business owner's right. So the City leadership (who is elected) chooses to start their meeting with an invocation (of whatever faith). That is their right to do so. As I told moondog, you sitting there listening/not listening is not you participating....prayer is active not passive.

As for when it is time to take a vote....the results of the vote are what they are. If the outcome isn't what you like, there are other avenue.

~Jeordam

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SCOTUS - Time to pray at Town Council meetings! Anonymous2000 - 05/05/2014 06:54:56 PM 1110 Views
I'm agnostic but I think they made the right decision random thoughts - 05/05/2014 08:09:21 PM 721 Views
Yeah, pretty much how I feel *NM* Urza - 06/05/2014 12:27:22 AM 304 Views
Absolutely.....I'm not religious, but I love this decision..... Anonymous2000 - 06/05/2014 02:36:29 AM 660 Views
I think you're misunderstanding the problem. It's not a question of being "offended" beetnemesis - 06/05/2014 02:43:26 PM 630 Views
But look at what you're advocating for... Jeordam - 06/05/2014 10:55:56 PM 625 Views
let's not go to extremes moondog - 07/05/2014 12:33:38 AM 640 Views
please point out where constitution calls for a separation of church and state random thoughts - 07/05/2014 06:44:42 PM 642 Views
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...." moondog - 08/05/2014 12:37:06 AM 611 Views
so the answer no you can't random thoughts - 08/05/2014 04:50:26 AM 611 Views
"... or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" You left that part out, kinda important *NM* Isaac - 12/05/2014 01:11:02 AM 435 Views
Again- it's not about being offended beetnemesis - 07/05/2014 04:02:29 AM 682 Views
America doesn't have seperation of church and state it has freedom of relgion random thoughts - 07/05/2014 06:42:19 PM 639 Views
Not exactly. Legolas - 07/05/2014 07:01:23 PM 639 Views
The words are clear and the intent is well documented random thoughts - 08/05/2014 05:13:42 AM 640 Views
I am reading de Tocqueville right now and he expresses similar sentiments. Tom - 05/05/2014 08:20:51 PM 651 Views
Yeah, seems sensible. Legolas - 05/05/2014 10:08:39 PM 654 Views
Re: Yeah, seems sensible. kHz1000 - 06/05/2014 07:04:01 PM 633 Views
our Constitution expressly prohibits the establishment of religion by government, though moondog - 06/05/2014 09:20:19 PM 658 Views
I couldn't disagree more... Jeordam - 06/05/2014 10:50:19 PM 629 Views
bad analogy moondog - 07/05/2014 12:19:26 AM 644 Views
But the GOVERNMENT is participating/supporting beetnemesis - 07/05/2014 04:17:32 AM 621 Views
Yeah, I'm aware. Legolas - 07/05/2014 07:03:36 AM 637 Views
That's not unreasonable A Deathwatch Guard - 06/05/2014 08:01:48 AM 703 Views
There's plenty that I don't want.... Jeordam - 06/05/2014 10:57:41 PM 660 Views
The Economist's take (which offers something for both sides, I'd say) Legolas - 07/05/2014 06:52:23 PM 738 Views
In Keeping With Tradition Is Terrible Justification MrFarstrider - 08/05/2014 03:37:34 AM 661 Views
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