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The specifics and our understanding always changes random thoughts Send a noteboard - 05/06/2015 09:50:39 PM

But the Earth is around 4.5 billion years old and humans have only existed for a tiny fraction of that time. We can see clear stages where creatures become less and similar to us as we go back in time. We can look at DNA and see a commonality with creatures who we believe spilt from us more recently. There is no missing link and we will never have the complete picture but the evidence of change over time and the appearance and disappearance of species over time is solid. There is no other valid explanation and the Hebrew creation myth matches the evidence about as well the Greek myth.

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Can liberals all stop their posturing about adhering to science? Cannoli - 05/06/2015 12:04:13 AM 1352 Views
It's not really a difficult concept to understand, man beetnemesis - 05/06/2015 02:23:34 PM 762 Views
Re: It's not really a difficult concept to understand, man Cannoli - 05/06/2015 09:05:03 PM 769 Views
It's so difficult to parse out your trolling sometimes beetnemesis - 07/06/2015 02:37:11 PM 763 Views
Some people feel like they are women, though born as men. So they take steps to live The Shrike - 05/06/2015 04:47:14 PM 758 Views
The issue is science, and you respond with ...feelings? The point called, and it misses you too. Cannoli - 05/06/2015 09:31:09 PM 781 Views
Are you seriously claiming your post is motivated by science? Legolas - 05/06/2015 10:39:01 PM 630 Views
No, by hypocrites citing science as a trump card when it suits them & ignoring it on other issues Cannoli - 06/06/2015 12:33:53 AM 763 Views
If you want to accuse liberals of ignoring science there so many better examples random thoughts - 09/06/2015 04:35:58 PM 765 Views
Your views may be the norm now. But not for long The Shrike - 08/06/2015 08:09:41 PM 754 Views
I agree with you in theory random thoughts - 05/06/2015 09:43:43 PM 640 Views
I think it's okay to be weirded out by it Tom - 08/06/2015 10:28:02 PM 773 Views
gender issues aside the evidence of evolution is undeniable to the extreme random thoughts - 05/06/2015 08:37:37 PM 639 Views
Well then why do scientists feel the need to make up their own fake evidence? Cannoli - 05/06/2015 09:16:40 PM 683 Views
The specifics and our understanding always changes random thoughts - 05/06/2015 09:50:39 PM 685 Views
"A better fit" doesn't sound much like testable hypotheses and observable data Cannoli - 06/06/2015 12:38:49 AM 824 Views
Science and absolute, unquestioned fact... gban007 - 06/06/2015 11:16:10 AM 713 Views
The theory is refined that is all random thoughts - 08/06/2015 07:11:40 PM 681 Views
Refined is probably a better word for it (though some can be overturned) gban007 - 09/06/2015 08:47:22 AM 676 Views
We can find Naederthal DNA in modern humans random thoughts - 08/06/2015 07:01:01 PM 627 Views
I am 3% Neanderthal! My 23andMe Test told me so!! *NM* The Shrike - 08/06/2015 08:07:35 PM 362 Views
If thought about doing that random thoughts - 09/06/2015 02:31:11 PM 629 Views
We share 1/3 of the DNA of flowers. Where are those in our ancestral tree? Cannoli - 09/06/2015 02:20:46 PM 655 Views
Of course they are in our family tree random thoughts - 09/06/2015 02:39:18 PM 660 Views
Re: Of course they are in our family tree Cannoli - 13/06/2015 05:29:16 PM 621 Views
Americas (Christian?!) "accepted religious standards" can and have been changed to vindicate robbers Joel - 15/06/2015 03:37:12 AM 637 Views
So? My point is that liberals would not allow you to teach that in a public school Cannoli - 15/06/2015 01:43:43 PM 575 Views
Liberals consistently teach that in schools, despite conservatives calling it “revisionist history” Joel - 17/06/2015 10:00:48 AM 685 Views
The problem with the "there can not spontanous life" argument is random thoughts - 15/06/2015 02:29:06 PM 623 Views
"when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" Joel - 17/06/2015 10:02:00 AM 650 Views
will since omnipotent beings are ut side the realm of the possible we can eliminate that random thoughts - 17/06/2015 05:45:36 PM 705 Views
Who says omnipotent beings are outside the realm of possibility? Joel - 20/06/2015 03:59:44 AM 762 Views
You can always find unaswered question in science but that gives no weight to religion random thoughts - 22/06/2015 01:52:25 PM 632 Views
Not unanswered, unanswerABLE: Huge qualitative difference Joel - 24/06/2015 04:43:54 AM 669 Views
...I'm confused, are you claiming that no real fossils have been found? beetnemesis - 07/06/2015 02:41:12 PM 653 Views
And they prove what, exactly? Cannoli - 07/06/2015 11:24:43 PM 768 Views
Er, well yeah, that's the point- Scientific knowledge keeps growing and challenging itself beetnemesis - 08/06/2015 02:58:26 PM 705 Views
It's not at all the same. Cannoli - 09/06/2015 02:53:06 PM 671 Views
Dude, you're monologuing like a supervillain and going off on insane tangents. beetnemesis - 09/06/2015 03:27:37 PM 786 Views
In fact, fossils are not even necessary sometimes -- we can see it over the course of generations moondog - 08/06/2015 09:06:23 PM 699 Views
That's not evolution, idiot. Cannoli - 09/06/2015 02:31:27 PM 648 Views
um, that's actually EXACTLY how natural selection works, thanks for arguing my point so nicely moondog - 10/06/2015 12:19:32 AM 643 Views
They're not changing. Same species, same characteristics. We're just finding different proportions. Cannoli - 13/06/2015 05:35:09 PM 592 Views
"It's not like they are going to run into difficulties later in life"? Seriously? Joel - 15/06/2015 03:36:42 AM 593 Views
Re: "It's not like they are going to run into difficulties later in life"? Seriously? Cannoli - 15/06/2015 02:23:36 PM 653 Views
Thermodynamics only applies to the concrete, not the abstract Joel - 17/06/2015 10:03:18 AM 640 Views
I would not have expected to see you adhere to a scientist position Tom - 07/06/2015 03:06:11 AM 714 Views
I am not; I am criticizing the people who apply it inconsistently Cannoli - 07/06/2015 11:14:05 PM 750 Views
Perhaps she does not believe in hell The Shrike - 08/06/2015 12:55:50 PM 570 Views
You are confusing science and scientism Tom - 08/06/2015 10:15:57 PM 637 Views
For what it is worth, I have encountered many people who satisfy those stated "scientism" criteria Joel - 15/06/2015 03:37:36 AM 595 Views
can republicans stop their posturing about adhering to morality? moondog - 08/06/2015 09:17:16 PM 674 Views
My own homosexual inclinations would not constitute hypocrisy in opposing deviant behavior Cannoli - 09/06/2015 02:14:56 PM 674 Views
at least you're finally open about your homosexual attraction to the former Bruce Jenner... moondog - 10/06/2015 12:05:10 AM 781 Views
"… in the latter times some shall depart from the faith… speaking lies in hypocrisy…" Joel - 15/06/2015 03:36:08 AM 722 Views
See - more liberal doublespeak Cannoli - 15/06/2015 03:30:57 PM 685 Views
“Who are you calling, ‘you people’?! ” Joel - 17/06/2015 10:08:32 AM 627 Views
Some other stuff Cannoli - 15/06/2015 03:45:59 PM 710 Views
See what you (and the devil, of course) made me do? Joel - 17/06/2015 10:16:35 AM 706 Views
Good luck with that; (at least) two beloved long time RAFOlk are post-medically transgendered Joel - 15/06/2015 03:34:33 AM 541 Views
I find this entire discussion absolutely hilarious. TyrReborn - 15/06/2015 04:19:31 PM 549 Views
well I am sucb a died in the wool liberal I just cant help myself random thoughts - 15/06/2015 06:25:57 PM 542 Views
Yeah, you're to the Left of Trotsky. *NM* Tom - 15/06/2015 07:31:28 PM 326 Views
...what? Attacking points is pretty much what debate IS. beetnemesis - 16/06/2015 04:29:05 AM 617 Views
No... TyrReborn - 17/06/2015 08:00:57 PM 594 Views
OK? beetnemesis - 18/06/2015 04:03:32 AM 628 Views
duplicate post, ignore *NM* beetnemesis - 18/06/2015 04:03:47 AM 414 Views
Oh, I'm sorry. TyrReborn - 18/06/2015 09:05:42 PM 701 Views
A thesis delayed till the SECOND paragraph is, at best, misplaced Joel - 20/06/2015 09:37:36 AM 677 Views
Bah, damn you for good points! TyrReborn - 21/06/2015 09:33:49 PM 688 Views
Oh, man, been there, done that, got the T-shirt Joel - 22/06/2015 01:26:13 AM 634 Views
Heheh, thank you for understanding. TyrReborn - 22/06/2015 09:23:11 PM 594 Views
Shh, saying things like that will sacrifice all your credibility Joel - 24/06/2015 04:40:45 AM 635 Views
The really fun part is when grammatical gender doesn't match the sex even for humans. Legolas - 22/06/2015 10:30:33 PM 592 Views
"Mädchen" was my initial reference, changed because I think Spanish more accessible to Americans Joel - 24/06/2015 04:42:37 AM 667 Views
Re: Oh, I'm sorry. beetnemesis - 20/06/2015 04:44:24 PM 766 Views
You're missing my whole issue with labeling. TyrReborn - 21/06/2015 09:32:36 PM 693 Views
Had this post been the thread-starter it would have drawn far fewer complaints Joel - 24/06/2015 04:41:06 AM 951 Views
The sheer brazenness of the "calling bigots 'bigots' is offensive" "defense" continually amazes me Joel - 20/06/2015 04:03:46 AM 881 Views
This might be a complete non-sequitur, but... Legolas - 21/06/2015 10:38:19 PM 562 Views
I'm a hardcore lurker... TyrReborn - 22/06/2015 09:26:59 PM 524 Views
Cool. Legolas - 22/06/2015 10:14:45 PM 620 Views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JFfN5pKzFU *NM* Dion - 15/06/2015 05:01:30 PM 325 Views
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