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The distinction between the first two is negligible Joel Send a noteboard - 29/07/2015 07:52:50 PM

Few people TRY to sound like a douche, after all, but "trying to sound cool" defines hipster douchery almost as well as the "fake culture" definition rt suggested. "Ya'll" does not sound cool in the South (nor, thanks to the Great Migration, most minority residents of Western and Northern cities,) it simply sounds far more natural than the deeply awkward "you guys." Likewise, in the Midwest and New England "you guys" is commonly a reflexive usage, while "ya'll" sounds forced, affected or both. Distinct singular and plural forms of the second person pronoun is generally desirable in any language, but since English abandoned that distinction nearly half a millennium ago, modern speakers are forced to improvise.

In line with that and the above discussion between rt and I, I wonder what (if anything) is English common second person plural outside the US.

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Y'all, you guys, yous guys, or hey you all? - 25/07/2015 05:38:44 PM 1399 Views
Y'all may be the American South's greatest gift to the English language. - 27/07/2015 12:14:47 AM 1021 Views
*whistles innocently* - 27/07/2015 04:17:43 AM 1148 Views
"Hey, you guys!" is only correct if you are Rita Moreno - 27/07/2015 04:15:07 AM 1002 Views
Perhaps, but you're also wrong. - 27/07/2015 04:45:48 AM 1248 Views
Both spellings are "correct" to the extent EITHER are. - 27/07/2015 05:04:43 AM 1191 Views
Funny.... - 29/07/2015 12:13:35 AM 1074 Views
It is also correct if you are Sloth... on a pirate ship... *NM* - 29/07/2015 07:09:56 PM 788 Views
I will defer to you and Jeordam on that one - 29/07/2015 07:45:31 PM 1093 Views
well since language is a democracy and the souther dialetic is the largest Y'all wins - 27/07/2015 02:07:22 PM 1152 Views
The Southern dialect is the largest by what metric? - 27/07/2015 06:26:20 PM 1129 Views
It also the accent most similar to what Victorian brits would have spoken - 27/07/2015 07:45:09 PM 1079 Views
Whoa, now: The PIEDMONT accent may be closest to Received Pronunciation, but is not the whole South - 28/07/2015 12:37:56 AM 1168 Views
I don't make the catagories but all the southern accents tend to be close *NM* - 28/07/2015 02:12:15 PM 732 Views
Except, as you noted, Virginias accent is closer to Englands (and New Englands, and South Africas) - 28/07/2015 11:00:46 PM 1130 Views
that is not what I said - 29/07/2015 02:14:49 PM 1130 Views
Sorry, I credited you w/knowing the Deep South, Appalachia and TX sound nothing like any UK accents - 29/07/2015 07:42:21 PM 1142 Views
read slower and then read again until you understand what I said - 29/07/2015 08:14:19 PM 1438 Views
"The people in the American South were Victorian Brits"?! I must have read that too fast - 29/07/2015 10:39:08 PM 1083 Views
Erm. Not really sure what you're saying here... - 29/07/2015 11:35:26 PM 1063 Views
Would "UK English" have been better? - 30/07/2015 10:47:53 PM 1127 Views
Not really. - 31/07/2015 07:30:41 AM 1093 Views
David Crystal estimates proficient non-natives outnumber native English speakers 3:1 - 10/08/2015 02:45:58 AM 1085 Views
Interesting stuff. - 10/08/2015 07:12:26 PM 1172 Views
Who says "yous guys"? Seriously? - 27/07/2015 07:56:28 PM 1068 Views
B-movie mobsters - 28/07/2015 12:40:04 AM 1244 Views
They said it when I lived in Chicago - 28/07/2015 02:10:27 PM 1049 Views
Scots. - 28/07/2015 02:42:28 PM 1079 Views
I have heard it a couple of times. - 28/07/2015 03:13:20 PM 1024 Views
Isn't fake culture almos the defintion of hipster? *NM* - 28/07/2015 05:18:53 PM 546 Views
Depends, are trying to sound cool, like a douche, or Joe Pesci? *NM* - 29/07/2015 07:12:28 PM 787 Views
The distinction between the first two is negligible - 29/07/2015 07:52:50 PM 1097 Views

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