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Re: Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... nossy Send a noteboard - 09/03/2017 08:52:30 PM

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View original postAnd that we accept "abnormal" behavior and bodily changes of all sorts without trying to fix people, unless we are worried about serious danger to self/others. Otherwise, we/doctors/society only get to have an opinion or a different method of treatment if the person feels this alternate self-identification is wrong/unhealthy for themselves.


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View original postOf behavior and bodily changes.....


View original postThere is a remarkable difference between someone's behavior (small or even large scale) and transgenderism. And there is an even bigger difference between body changes (such as piercings, tattoos, etc.) and transgenderism.


View original postAgain, everything people are describing is that their "alternate self-identification is wrong/unhealthy for them"....as if their own judgement on the situation can override the reality of the situation.

I'm not saying that - I addressed your point without so much getting into my own view. (Which is that our natural world is crazy as all get out, and I'm not comfortable saying that there is only one way for a human to be "right or healthy".)

What I was saying is that if YOU or others think it's wrong (why I used quotes), the answer is still the same for me. If allowing someone to be transgender, transexual, etc is what makes that person happy, who am I to say that's not the proper "treatment" anyway? I don't care about someone's anatomy unless they are trying to do something to me with it, so I don't care how they define it.

Edit: also, quick question, are you meaning transexual when you say transgender? Gender is not necessarily attached to physiology.

Def: the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

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Re: Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... nossy - 09/03/2017 08:52:30 PM 542 Views
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