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Lenin. A monster. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 14/03/2017 12:55:18 PM

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All but the most rabid and delusional fanatics recognize Stalin for the monster he was, but Lenin is generally sidelined in the discussion. Which is a shame, really, because I think he's much more interesting (and sympathetic, frankly, though I don't know much about Russian history at all).

And do you know any good books on the revolution and USSR in general?


A monster who founded a totalitarian regime. I am no fan of Lenin. At all. The Red Terror occurred under Lenin. .

If you want to know about the Revolution then you need to go further back in time to understand Russia itself. But Orlando Figes' A People's Tragedy is a good place to begin for the revolution. Otherwise some general histories of Russia itself might not be bad. For more histories of the Soviet Union, I would ask Tom. He is an expert and extremely well read on the subject. I actually have a love/hate relationship with Russian/Soviet history. I prefer German history. Soviet history is too depressing especially since it affected my family in many negative ways.

Stalin was a monster but I wonder what the Soviet Union would have been like without him. Would they have been as ready for the Germans without his emphasis on massive industrialization? Would Germany have thus won WWII by quickly knocking out the Soviet Union and then focusing on the buildup of their navy to take out the UK? More what ifs.

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The February Revolution and Kerensky’s Missed Opportunity - 13/03/2017 09:37:00 PM 844 Views
Fascinating stuff - 13/03/2017 10:52:58 PM 447 Views
Who knows? It could have been worse off. - 13/03/2017 11:37:54 PM 535 Views
What's your opinion on Lenin? - 14/03/2017 02:06:59 AM 485 Views
Lenin. A monster. - 14/03/2017 12:55:18 PM 516 Views
Thanks. I'll ask him too. *NM* - 14/03/2017 03:01:36 PM 244 Views
Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky were all bloodthirsty mass murderers. - 14/03/2017 08:59:06 PM 559 Views
That's fascinating. But give me a book recommendation! - 14/03/2017 09:15:57 PM 454 Views
Start with a general history of Russia - 14/03/2017 10:17:22 PM 570 Views
Excellent. Thank you. It's next on the list. - 15/03/2017 02:11:14 AM 518 Views
Russian history is as depressing as they come. - 15/03/2017 12:08:15 PM 512 Views
Read Figes first, I suppose. - 14/03/2017 10:55:23 PM 475 Views
Thanks, Tom. I've been putting off reading good literature because of my unfamiliarity with Russia. *NM* - 15/03/2017 02:12:10 AM 229 Views
Which books have you put off reading? *NM* - 15/03/2017 12:05:32 PM 216 Views
DEMONS and THE BROTHERS KARAMAZOV are the big two. - 15/03/2017 02:58:13 PM 467 Views
You don't necessarily need to know the history. - 15/03/2017 03:15:38 PM 501 Views
I'm always afraid I'm missing something critical, though! - 15/03/2017 03:50:59 PM 451 Views
Annotations are amazing. My eBook version of War and Peace was the same. - 15/03/2017 04:03:59 PM 472 Views
My High School English teacher neglected Russian literature. - 16/03/2017 01:46:29 AM 434 Views
Hmmmm. - 16/03/2017 01:18:14 PM 471 Views
Tolstoy was a reprehensible human being - 15/03/2017 04:02:52 PM 447 Views
I had no idea. I was under the impression he was deeply devout. - 16/03/2017 01:47:43 AM 469 Views
Here's one example: - 16/03/2017 02:06:45 AM 470 Views
Good lord. The man sounds deranged. But that's fascinating! Is there a good biography on him? *NM* - 16/03/2017 07:50:10 AM 228 Views
Pavel Basinsky's bio is best - 16/03/2017 02:46:47 PM 645 Views
Getting it now. Thanks. *NM* - 16/03/2017 11:06:25 PM 219 Views
For what it's worth, I read Lenin & Trotsky as genuine idealists, while Stalin as just a thug - 15/03/2017 11:16:36 AM 526 Views
I think that's entirely incorrect. - 15/03/2017 04:00:54 PM 530 Views
I didn't mean stupid or brutish, I meant more like a mafia don than a statesman - 16/03/2017 12:18:34 PM 427 Views
Well if you want to completely redefine the phrase "just a thug", perhaps you're right - 16/03/2017 02:43:38 PM 448 Views
Good point - 16/03/2017 09:52:29 PM 583 Views
I hear what you're saying, but... - 16/03/2017 11:53:19 PM 474 Views
Attempt at clarification - 17/03/2017 12:55:03 AM 558 Views
Hehehe..."Fuck off" - 19/03/2017 05:23:49 PM 505 Views
Seems kind of nonsensical - 14/03/2017 01:33:49 AM 563 Views
Good reply. - 14/03/2017 12:57:47 PM 544 Views
They weren't really wrong - 14/03/2017 01:30:07 PM 565 Views
I do enjoy historical "what if" situations. - 14/03/2017 01:47:27 AM 461 Views
Hi there. - 14/03/2017 01:02:44 PM 434 Views
I still think democracy among those insidiously intrusive Western values Russia resists so fiercely - 14/03/2017 02:37:39 PM 555 Views
Is it your persistant anti-Russia bias that makes you so dogmatic? - 14/03/2017 02:51:23 PM 466 Views
I have no problem with Russia, only its government - 14/03/2017 03:07:14 PM 583 Views
Really? - 14/03/2017 03:15:10 PM 491 Views
What a terrible article - 14/03/2017 08:04:50 PM 452 Views
I thought you would think this way. - 15/03/2017 12:04:57 PM 536 Views
I can't decide what I think about Evans - 15/03/2017 04:10:05 PM 430 Views

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