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For now. Legolas Send a noteboard - 02/05/2017 08:31:25 PM

View original postJ Street is poorly financed and organized compared to AIPAC. Moreover, half of them come across as starry-eyed communists with little understanding of how things really work, meaning they fundamentally misunderstand human nature.

You mean kind of like the nearly half of Democrats who voted for Bernie Sanders? Yeah, their support is to a large extent young and idealistic, but still, American public opinion, and Jewish American public opinion, are more balanced than they used to be.
View original postI don't know. Seems like Avigdor and even nastier types have the ears of plenty. I do however admit I haven't been following things closely for the last year or two. Also, the reduction of the terrorist threat is, in my mind, something of a byproduct of the general chaos across much of the region. Should things settle down somewhat and any form of political stability emerge, then I imagine Hamas's hardliners getting outside "help".

Lieberman has his moments of surprising reasonableness, and then the other moments. Part of that is his secularism and less doctrinal - but not less vehement - positions on the conflict and how to solve it. And part of it is just Naftali Bennett who makes both Likud and Yisrael Beiteinu look reasonable.

Not sure about your second point - it all depends on what the new regional political landscape will look like. At the moment, at least, the absolutist Sunni front of Saudi Arabia and its allies is dominating, and they hate the Muslim Brotherhood which Hamas remains to some extent associated with. As well as the Shi'ites who have provided support to Hamas in the past.



Most of the regular political posters here are more in favour of Israel's policies and loathe Hamas - so was expecting to have to criticize the former and defend the latter. To the limited extent that I'm willing to do that, anyway.
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where people wipe their ass with their left hand *NM* - 03/05/2017 03:51:42 AM 436 Views
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